Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/USS Missouri (BB-63)/archive1
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FAC nominator User:Bschorr
- TomStar81 27.6%
- Sturmvogel_66 20.9%
- Parsecboy 13%
- North8000 5.7%
- TomStar81 324 (37.3%)
- North8000 172 (19.8%)
- Parsecboy 98 (11.3%)
- Sturmvogel_66 97 (11.2%)
- @Nikkimaria: this is still open. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
FASA nomination North8000
[edit]I nominate North8000 for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion North8000
[edit]- Support Hog Farm Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Sturmvogel 66
[edit]I nominate Sturmvogel 66 for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion Sturmvogel 66
[edit]- Support Hog Farm Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
HF
[edit]- "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere
- Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?
- Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific
- The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?
- The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body
- " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.
- Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body
- There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section
- "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in
- " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years
- CN spot in the museum ship section
- I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA - Roadside America, A Life Aloft, and Seaforces
This looks doable, although I'm afraid I don't have much good sourcing for this one - @TomStar81, Parsecboy, and North8000: Hog Farm Talk 23:42, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Using books that I just bought and read, I can fix everything pre-1995.....of course everyone else is welcome to beat me to it. North8000 (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Worksheet for Hog Farm's list
[edit]- "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere
- Resolved. Copied the statement to the body. Found and added a reference there. North8000 (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?
- Either way, right now I'm building the grounding coverage a bit and getting it cited to Butler. I haven't looked at the article history but suspect that the reason it has a separate article is because there is such a large amount of interesting material and it needs a lot of space to really cover it. I'm near-neutral on putting it in the lead. North8000 (talk) 10:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done. I put a sentence on it in the lead.North8000 (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Either way, right now I'm building the grounding coverage a bit and getting it cited to Butler. I haven't looked at the article history but suspect that the reason it has a separate article is because there is such a large amount of interesting material and it needs a lot of space to really cover it. I'm near-neutral on putting it in the lead. North8000 (talk) 10:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific
- Resolved. I don't see anything that specific in the info box or in the article. Maybe someone took it out. North8000 (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?
- Done. Figured out, reconciled and sourced.North8000 (talk) 02:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body
- Done. North8000 (talk) 13:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.
- Fixed. Specified both per source North8000 (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body
- Fixed. I added them to the body and cited/reference them
- There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section
- Done. Tweaked it to make it cite-able, and cited it. North8000 (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in
- Fixed. I pared some non-verifiable material (which was also superfluous) and added extra cites on what remains. Also fixed one minor error. (changed shrapnel to debris) North8000 (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years
- Fixed Took them both out. Vague summary that was not in the source nor in any source that I could find.North8000 (talk) 01:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- CN spot in the museum ship section
- Resolved. (by others) North8000 (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA
- Roadside America
- Fixed. Removed source and material dependent on it what was of low importance and relevance.North8000 (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- A Life Aloft (3 uses)
- Replaced with a better ref at the first of its three uses. North8000 (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Replaced with a better ref at the second of its three uses. North8000 (talk) 13:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Removed the 3rd and the material dependent on it North8000 (talk) 13:51, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Seaforces
- Fixed in the same fix noted a couple lines up on 6/26/22. North8000 (talk) 00:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Roadside America
North8000 (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
@Hog Farm: I just fixed the last item.North8000 (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)