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The result of the debate was redirect to Republic of China to preserve history.

Template:Republic of China infobox

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Template:Republic of China infobox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This template is redundant to {{China infobox}}, which is a single-article infobox (this one is, too). Brendenhull 21:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move it out of the template namespace to keep the significant edit and talk page history and mark it as obsolete. SchmuckyTheCat 21:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure why it's redundant with a non-existing infobox, but it's orphaned (and redundant) by the migration of the Republic of China article to Infobox country. SchmuckyTheCat 23:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not a recreation, it's orphaned. When the article Republic of China was migrated FROM this infobox to Infobox country, this was the basis. So this isn't a recreation, it's the source material. SchmuckyTheCat 23:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: And therefore its edit history and the discussion on its talk page have to be preserved. They explain how the infobox (which is now merged from the template back to the article) has become what it is like. — Instantnood 23:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I assumed recreation because {{Infobox country}} is older. Joelito (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Circeus 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:News story

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Template:News story (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Orphan and lacks usefulness Joelito (talk) 21:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete Circeus 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bridges of the Mississippi River

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Template:Bridges of the Mississippi River (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Obsoleted by Template:Crossings navbox, and no longer used. Recommend speedy deletion, or just deletion if speedy isn't possible. —Rob (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unused and obselete (so no future usage). It doesn't look very divisive or inflammatory, so no speedy. SeventyThree(Talk)
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The result of the debate was delete these two, keep {{cite newsgroup}} Circeus 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Newsgroup reference

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I'm nominating:

for deletion. According to WP:RS, these should never be used: "Posts to bulletin boards and Usenet, or messages left on blogs, are never acceptable as primary or secondary sources." Apparently they're only in use at one article, Out Run 2019, and an old AfD talk page. Those can be subst'ed, while the templates are deleted and their mention removed from Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles/Generic citations. Melchoir 11:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep Circeus 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:War on Terrorism

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Templates entitled with a propaganda term can never be made neutral. (original proposal by De mortuis...) Añoranza 08:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given by the guys of one side who sent others to fight. Añoranza 08:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, would you rather have an Arabic name? What would you propose we call it? It's completely in line with the name of our article on War on Terrorism --Rory096 09:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Propaganda terms should not be used in general, regardless which side they are from. Añoranza 10:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep, the issue isn't about the content of the template, but the name of the template. It should be renamed, or placed between quotation marks, (as it is now) Sfacets 08:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are issues over the content of the template: there is no public consensus over what is, and isn't, part of the "War on Terrorism." For example, debate is raging in the U.S. media, government, and academic circles over whether the Iraq War is part of the greater WoT. For Wikipedia to declare in a template that it is in fact part of the WoT is POV at best and a violation of WP:NOR at worst. --Hyperbole 19:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, maybe a renaming is necessary though. -- Grafikm_fr (AutoGRAF) 11:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename, perhaps to "International Terrorism Conflict"? SCHZMO ✍ 13:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. No rename is needed, it is named War on Terrorism because this is the most commonly used name to refer to this conflict, rather than others such as "Global Struggle against Violent Extremism" or the above stated "International Terrorism Conflict." If these names should eventually surpass War on Terror in usage, that is when we rename. Just like we should rename the cold war template to WW3 should that name ever become popular. But not before. Rangeley 16:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is a widely criticized propaganda term not a universally used and neutral term like cold war. Añoranza 16:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If this isn't the common name, then what is? --Rory096 20:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or rename as it is a controversial propaganda issue not suitable for a category (unlike the article by the same name). --Arny 18:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep - The War on Terrorism article gives the term a fair treatment, and this template is an effort to link to things related to it. Propaganda or not, "war on terror" is a real, common term that applies to a specific set of events. I'd love to rename this template to something more neutral, but, regrettably, such a term does not exist. And it isn't the responsibility of Wikipedia to make up a new term for it just because we don't like the one that's being used. ~ Booyabazooka 18:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a violation of WP:NOR. It is the Wikipedia editors who appear to be deciding what is and isn't part of the "War on Terrorism" - for example, they've included the 2005 Bali Bombings, a terrorist attack by Indonesians against Indonesians, as part of the American WoT. Since for any given entry, there is no public consensus over whether it is or isn't part of the WoT, the category can never be anything other than original research. --Hyperbole 18:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It prompted the Indonesian government to declare solidarity in the War on Terrorism, inevitably making it as much a part of the war as 9-11. Rangeley 01:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
According to who? --Hyperbole 06:17, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - useful, but perhaps needs scaling down. --Knucmo2 00:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Only common term for these events. I tried to think of a replacement term and failed. Furthermore, as to Hyperbole's complaint, any OR element as to why an article does or does not include the template should be discussed at the article, with any OR concern dealt with there as one would for any other template. I do agree with Knucmo2 that it could be scaled down slightly, but that's not a cause for deletion. JoshuaZ 06:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - name is appropriately in quotes to show that it's just a name. -- Tangotango 11:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Useful template that helps organize articles in the encyclopedia. Opponents seem politically motivated. The name is hardly "original research" since it's a common phrase used outside of WP. Nhprman
  • Strong Keep, as there is no alternative. There is a War on Terrorism going on. It may not be the same as say, the American Revolutionary War but none the less several wars have been started and are being fought under its name. Falphin 23:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, unless someone can suggest something better. 'Terrorism' is a bit of a catch-all for anyone we don't like, but that's the name given to it. It's no less accurate than 'war to end all wars'. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, although this name is acceptable, to make a list of conflicts that are alleged to be part of this WOT is WP:OR unless we can provide sources. On the talk page of invasion of Iraq it has become evident that many organisations and media, do not adopt the term for Iraq. Many other mentioned conflicts surprise me also as being part of the WOT (Chechnya?). As long as the list is not substantiated it should not be on Wikipedia.Holland Nomen Nescio 11:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep It definately does not reflect a world view, but there is no other commonly used term to refer to the underlying topics. I will change my vote to rename if there are solid proposals to do so. --larsinio (poke)(prod) 19:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Though the name may appear to be propaganda based, it is still in fact the name. Since it does appear in H.J Res 114 authorizing force as well as UK Parliament debate and vote over Iraq. It also is the name on the medals, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, given to soldiers fghting in Afghanistan and Iraq. Considering Pervez Musharraf president of India, the UK Parliament and US government all use the terms on official scales, countries who make up a majority of the countries who's official languages are english, I really don't understand the debate.--Zer0faults 19:08, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Circeus 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Peruvian Andean Parliament election, 2006

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Template:Peruvian Andean Parliament election, 2006 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
No longer used in any article, content merged into Template:Peruvian legislative election, 2006. Gabbec 05:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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