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Status of the status quo's status

If a discussion, which required the assent of a neutral closer, especially a deletion discussion, were to only contain the nominator's voice; and no other's, would that discussion be closed in favor of the nominator's recommendation, or as if there was no consensus for implementing the nominator's recommendation? Thank ye!--PI 007 (do come correct) 10:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Certainly with Redirects for deletion that is the case procedurally, and, in general, talk page proposals that attract no response are often implemented by the proposer. Of course "consensus can change" so (again in the general case) an un-answered talk-page proposal (or any other) is not a "lock-in" of the resultant action, nor does it preclude the "R" of WP:BRD. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:05, 1 June 2014 (UTC).
Hi PI 007. If you are talking about the article deletion process, if there are no comments/!votes other than those of the nominator after seven days, an article can either be relisted or closed (as Keep). In other words, because Wikipedia works on consensus, the view of an individual editor is insufficient grounds for article deletion. For more information, please see WP:QUORUM.  Philg88 ♦talk 05:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Note that some admins will delete articles in such cases (at least, I've seen it done), considering that an AfD with no comments is equivalent to an expired prod tag. They will, however, restore an article if anyone requests restoration, just as a prod may be negated by any editor's objection. Deor (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

How to use Sandbox

Hey Teahouse, I'm having some trouble figuring out how to use the sandbox. could you please give me a hand? Thanks, Schoolskater (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You'll find some information at Help:Sandbox, or you can create and edit your personal sandbox at Special:Mypage/sandbox. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello Schoolskater, and welcome to the Teahouse! On Wikipedia, sandboxes are pages that let you carry out editing experiments. Basically, it's a page where you are allowed to write content, test out templates, and just be free in trying your editing skills. Wikipedia's main sandbox exists at Wikipedia:Sandbox. To use it, just click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page, next to "Read". Content in the main sandbox won't stay there for long, however. To create your own personal sandbox where the things you type can remain indefinitely, click here. You can use your personal sandbox to develop article drafts. If you need any more help, feel free to leave a follow-up question below and I or another host will be happy to clarify anything. Best, Mz7 (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Where to place deletion tag

Where would one place a deletion tag to an article: the article page or the talk page? Thanks, --Joseph Yanchar (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Article page. {{db-talk}} (for orphaned talk pages) is one of the few to go on the talk page. Is there a particular article in mind at this time? Chris857 (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Joseph Yanchar. There are three different article deletion processes, which are described in our Deletion policy. First is speedy deletion, which is intended for obviously unacceptable articles such as a string of random characters or vulgar denunciation of a school teacher. Next comes proposed deletion, a one week process that leads to deletion of certain types of articles if no one objects. Then there is Articles for Deletion, often abbreviated AfD. This is an open debate process, usually taking one or more weeks, where editors advance arguments for keeping or deleting the article. The first two procedures involve tagging the beginning of the article. AfD is a bit more complicated. If you mention a specific article and state your concerns, we can probably give you a more specific answer. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

List of recent articles

Is there some list available on Wikipedia of recently created articles? I don't have much to do, and think I want to go on "deletion patrol." Thanks, --Joseph Yanchar (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Special:NewPages or Special:NewPagesFeed. The 'feed' was developed more recently, though I personally prefer the other. Chris857 (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
The patrol you are thinking of is actually an organized endeavour, which you can find at Wikipedia:New pages patrol. You will find instructions and tools there to help you be most useful. Cheers, --LukeSurl t c 16:46, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Editing a title

Hi, I'm new here. Would you please tell how I can edit the title of an article. Thanks. Vardu (talk) 16:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Vardu. We refer to that process as "moving" an article from one title to another, and you can find a detailed explanation at WP:MOVE. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:52, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Cullen328. Vardu (talk) 17:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Changing name of top page

I am trying to change Julie Wafaei's page to Julie Angus, as she married Colin Angus (explorer) and she now uses the name Julie Angus. How do I make that change?Steven C. Price 18:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Steven C. Price, and welcome to the Teahouse. Before moving the page, you should read COMMONNAME. If she is better known by her earlier name, the article should stay where it is. If you decide that a move is appropriate, you can find instructions at Moving a page. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Should the page really just be moved? If she is known by two names, would it not be better to have two pages and place a redirect on one? What is the Wiki policy on this? - W.carter (talk) 18:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Actually, a move usually involves putting a redirect on the old page. As in fact has happened since this discussion started. RockMagnetist (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello RockMagnetist, thanks for your response. It was spot-on and I was able to do what I wanted to do. ThanksSteven C. Price 21:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price (talk • contribs)

How to set up a new page

Help!!! I finally figured out how to edit but I cannot understand how to set up a new page can I please have some help????

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pythonessofdelphi (talk • contribs) 22:36, 30 May 2014‎ (UTC)

I've added a few useful links to your user talk page, including WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:38, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
@Pythonessofdelphi: Welcome to the Teahouse. To create a page, one generally sets up a subpage in userspace and works on it there until they think it's ready. If you click on this link - User:Pythonessofdelphi/sandbox, you can add your article content in the window below. You don't have to do it all in one sitting. An experienced user would generally just move it into article space, but since you're new, you should add {{subst:submit}} onto the draft so someone else can look at it and decide if it's ready. Hope this helps. --Jakob (talk) (my editor review) 23:45, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks alot!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pythonessofdelphi (talk • contribs) 21:18, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Remove tag at top of article

Hi, how can I remove a tag at the top of my article that says, "article needs more links..." This was placed on the article when it was first approved, but since then, links have been added by other editors, as well as myself. Would you be so kind as to advise? Thank you very much for your help. Wikalias (talk) 20:25, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Once the template is no longer required anyone can remove it, I have removed it for you. Theroadislong (talk) 20:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi "theroadislong". That's great! I appreciate your help. Thank you! 75.149.161.154 (talk) 21:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

publish content from a sandbox?

I recently joined Wikipedia and used my sandbox as a practice space for an article. Can I publish from there or am I to copy & paste the content once I am pleased with it to a new page for approval? Also may I ask someone else to please take a look at what I have written offer feedback that would make it better? Reetersivad (talk) 01:18, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

May I also add that it would be great if someone were to look over what I have written to offer suggestions on how to make it better.

Reetersivad (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Reetersivad, and welcome to the Teahouse. You could submit the draft for review by clicking the button. But then you might wait a month for a review. Or you could create Bob Davis (businessman) (there are lots of Bob Davises) and copy your content into it. Your article is looking good, so I would recommend the latter. Make sure you delete the sandbox template; and you need more citations in the section Notable achievements. RockMagnetist (talk) 01:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Instead of "cutting and pasting", which destroys the history of the development of the article, I recommend "moving" the sandbox draft to the actual article title. That preserves the early history of the article. Please read WP:MOVE for complete details. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
@Cullen328: I don't agree that a move is the best answer for a sandbox. A sandbox is for experimentation, and might get used over and over for different purposes. And it is one person's work. I think histories are only needed when there are multiple contributors. RockMagnetist (talk) 03:41, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
You are correct, RockMagnetist, that histories are only needed when several people have edited the article. But nothing prevents editor A from asking editor B to help out at a sandbox, and editor C noticing the discussion and participating as well. An editor can have as many sandbox pages as he or she wants, and it only takes a few key strokes to create a new one. When someone is curious about how I go about drafting articles, they can look at the edit history of an article and see my very first sketchy edits, and every single subsequent edit. I think that's useful. I will note that I didn't use this technique when writing my earliest articles. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:06, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe you're a better writer than me - no one has asked me how I do it! I create a separate draft in my userspace for each new article, then I get rid of it after I have moved the content to article space. I used to keep the drafts, but eventually I couldn't find the current drafts for the clutter. RockMagnetist (talk) 04:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I never use my sandbox for making articles, just for test editing, for the reason RockMagnetist has said. I make a user page for each one. However, I move, not copy the result. Later I delete the user pages which are now just redirects. This preserves the development of the article, so that if it is copied and posted on the Internet somewhere I can prove that I am the one who wrote it, rather than the one who copied it. Also, copy and delete would affect my editing profile - If I create ten articles, using 100 edits each, and they are all deleted except the last ten edits when I paste them into mainspace, it appears to others that I have done very little article creation work and mostly other unspecified edits that weren't worth keeping. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Anne. RockMagnetist, you are reminding me that I ought to clean up my userspace, which is nearly as messy as my house. I am reminded of a comment by Phoebe, a member of the Wikimedia Foundation board: "Housework is highly overrated". Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:48, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
But not overpaid. RockMagnetist (talk) 15:53, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
I stand by my comment that housework is highly overrated :) and don't forget about working in the Draft: namespace too! I usually do what Annie does, except I don't bother to delete the userpage -- sometimes I just make it not a redirect. phoebe / (talk to me) 23:21, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

When I add a Link to an article the text doesn't change to the light blue so it is not easily identifiable as a Link (see the example in the previous use of Link), although it does work as a link and connect to the right page. Do I have to change something in my preferences to get the Link to show in light blue?Ian3060 (talk) 19:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ian3060, welcome to the Teahosue. What you probably call light blue means you haven't visited the page. Dark blue means you have. See more at Help:Link color. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:21, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi PrimeHunter, thank you for your response. OK now I understand. So because I always check the Article before I create a Link to it, it will not be in the light blue. Therefore to check if there is a Link in "Show Preview" of an edit I'm undertaking it is necessary to put the cursor across the word that is meant to be Linked and check it registers as a Linked word by seeing that the word underlines. In addition, once the page is Saved, then anyone viewing the article will see the Links in light blue if they haven't visited the site. Many Thanks. Ian3060 (talk) 19:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Visited links are dark blue. Unlinked text is black. It sounds like you cannot distinguish these on your screen. That's impractical. You can change color of visited pages with this line in your CSS:
.mw-body a:visited {color: #0000FF}
Or choose another color, for example from Web color. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
What color you see varies. It is usually the case that visited links are purple for me, and this is even true at libraries. Dark blue links to me are unvisited Wikipedia articles. Light blue links are to Wikimedia sites outside English Wikipedia.
Thanks for this, I'll give it a try. Ian3060 (talk) 02:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

can i use the wkiki info on San Francisco districts on a booklet i want to sell?

I am making a cutting board with all the names of the districts in SF lasered on it, i want to include a booklet with the information i see in Wikipedia detailing the names and history. this is a commercial endver, i plan on selling them in the USA, and if it is OK should i credit Wikipedia?98.173.36.236 (talk) 23:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

is this where i find the answer

98.173.36.236 (talk) 23:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I should clarify is the info on the above copywrited?

98.173.36.236 (talk) 23:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

All info on Wikipedia is made available under a Creative Commons share-alike licence. This means you can use it for commercial purposes, without permission, provided you credit WP. If you modify the text (i.e. you don't just copy and paste it as it is), you will have to put a Creative Commons Share-alike notice on the result. This wouldn't stop you from selling the boards, but it would mean you couldn't complain about anyone plagerising the booklet.
I think that is how it works anyway, but please do not rely on this as if it were advice from a lawyer. Formerip (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC)it is
A small tweak: you must credit the copyright owners, who are the users who edited the article (i.e., Wikipedia does not own the copyright, the editors who wrote the text do, under a free license), but a URL to the article where the page history is accessible is considered sufficient to provide attribution. So, for example, the following notice in your booklet would likely be sufficient, if all of the material came from the Wikipedia article on San Francisco:
This book incorporates text copied from the Wikipedia article: "San Francisco" from the version at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=San_Francisco&oldid=610910578 which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike License 3.0, the text of which license may be accessed online at: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
You must provide attribution for each Wikipedia article you take text from for the booklet. Note that I got the link for the version of the article on San Francisco by going there and clicking on "permanent link" in the left hand menu under "Tools". For further information please see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

References in Wikidata

How to put a reference in Wikidata imported from a Wikipedia page? Thanks (Sorry for the mistakes) YoshiNoirMC (talk) 17:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, YoshiNoirMC. I don't quite understand what you're asking: Wikidata items link directly to Wikipedia pages, so I don't know what you mean by "imported". Can you be a bit more specific about what you're wanting to do? --ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Bonjour ColinFine, j'ai vu que vous pouviez parler français.

Vous voyez que si vous allez sur cette page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185828 dans la section «Déclarations», les références sont: «importé de Wikipédia en anglais». Je voudrais faire la même chose (Mais du Wikipédia en français) sur cette page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17042570 Merci YoshiNoirMC (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Bonjour YoshiNoirMC. Il y a des mois depuis que je ne visite pas à Wikidata, mais il me paraît que ces cas d'importation ont été faits tous par un bot, et que l'on ne le fait plus. On voulait additionner vite des références à beaucoup d'entités de Wikidata, mais maintenant on préfère d'utiliser des meilleures références. Voir wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/11#Imported from WIkipedia vs no source. --ColinFine (talk) 10:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much!

YoshiNoirMC (talk) 11:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion- Wikipedia Guidelines Followed

Hi,

I created a page HopShopDrop and tried to offer information about how the business model work and what are the benefits, whereas other ecommerce website have created a page about their business model and how they work.

I have gone through the guidelines of Wikipedia and I feel there might be some error on the administrator part.

Please help me as how would I go about.

Thank you.Shhaluhasarram (talk) 06:52, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Shhaluhasarram and welcome to the Teahouse. It is highly unlikely that the administrator who deleted your page made a mistake. The Wikipedia speedy deletion policy is very specific about what qualifies and administrators have a lot of experience in this area. I suggest that the next time you create an article you use the articles for creation mechanism, which will allow your article to be reviewed without it being speedily deleted before you have a chance to improve it.  Philg88 ♦talk 07:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Shhaluhasarram. As well as the points Philg88 made, I would point out that it is unlikely that "other ecommerce websites have create a page about their business model and how they work": we strongly discourage people from creating pages about themselves, their family, their business, their band etc. There may be articles such as you suggest (in which case they too should be deleted), but it is more likely that the articles have been created by editors unconnected with the businesses, written in a neutral way, and drawing their information from published sources. --ColinFine (talk) 08:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
To add to the good advice above, your article was deleted under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, which states that articles about real people, individual animals, organizations, web content or organized events that do not indicate why its subject is important are liable to speedy deletion. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and thus there will be many subjects that are not suitable for inclusion here. As a general rule of thumb, article subjects require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. See WP:42. Articles about real people and organizations are frequently created, but only a small number of them are suitable. If your article did not show that the subject received significant coverage from independent reliable sources, that was probably why it was deleted. Best, Mz7 (talk) 13:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Requesting Company Name Change

To whom it may concern,

I work for Vimo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimo), a company that has legally changed its name to "GetInsured." Unfortunately, I'm not seeing a way to make this change under "Edit" or in the FAQ section.

We're not looking to use Wikipedia for advertising or marketing use (we're aware of the guidelines and terms), but kindly requesting that the page be changed from "Vimo" to "GetInsured" to reflect the current brand's state. Thanks!

SyGetInsured (talk) 20:59, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, SyGetInsured and welcome to The Teahouse. To do what you are requesting requires a move, and if you are new to Wikipedia it may be true that you don't have access to this feature. If you can provide a reliable independent source, such as a newspaper, which states that this change has happened, one of us can do this for you.
One more thing: I'm not sure your username is allowed. A company name is not allowed, but I've seen cases such as yours where because the company name is only part of the name, it is all right. If you want to continue editing on Wikipedia, it would be best to follow the advice at WP:CHU.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your help! I was not aware of the rules regarding usernames, but integrated my brand's name to help identify myself as an actual employee. I'll try to change my username or create a brand new one.
With that said, I saw that the name has been changed to GetInsured, which is great, but what is the protocol for URLs?
I see that the URL still has Vimo and that Vimo still appears in Google searches. Thanks
SyGetInsured (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
If the URL still works and gives your company information, I see no reason to change it, but at some point the URL might change and then it should be corrected.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:34, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, the name change should help Google to correct its searches.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:35, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, SyGetInsured. I guess you are talking about the URL you used to get to the Wikipedia page. When a page is moved, it automatically leaves behind a redirect page, that points to the new page; this is nearly always what you want, because if it means that somebody comes looking for the old name, it will redirect them to the article under the new name; and the old URL will still work. If you type the URL yourself, substituting the new name for the old, you will see that it goes directly to the article. As for Google, we have no control over what it does, but typically it takes a day or two to catch up with moves. --ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Colin. I'm not sure why I thought using the old company website URL was what was meant. They could always change that.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:26, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Just a note on the user name: it is OK under the "BobatMicrosoft" exception to the general rule.--ukexpat (talk) 13:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Is there a Teahouse for questions in spanish?

Is there a Teahouse for questions in spanish? If so, can you please send me a link?

Many thanks,

SRLM (talk) 13:58, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi SRLM. The English Wikipedia does not have pages for questions in other languages. The Spanish Wikipedia has a help page at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. I don't know Spanish but it's probably intended for questions about the Spanish Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank yo very much!

SRLM (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hola SRLM! Have a look at the Spanish Wikipedia Café summary page here, which has sections on all the latest questions/postings.  Philg88 ♦talk 14:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Many people have language skills in more than English, so if you ask a question at WP:Village pump or WP:Reference desk there's a good chance of getting a translation and/or an answer. Here, I don't know, but you could certainly try. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:06, 3 June 2014 (UTC).

help with referencing

Hi

I recently had my page deleted and I made some changes and sent it back for review. I apparently haven't shown "significant coverage", please could someone help me as some of the how to guides on here do not make sense and I am struggling to get the page back up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:United_Kingdom_Paintball_Association

Thank you in advance! SCarrollUK (talk) 13:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi SCarrollUK and welcome to the Teahouse. It seems that your article does not have sufficient referencing to establish notability of the topic. Have a look at this guide to get some pointers on what you need to do. Good luck!  Philg88 ♦talk 14:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

deleting a draft

I am trying to delete a draft article -- instead I am adding the information to an existing article. How do I delete the draft (it has been submitted for reviewing). Ngriffeth (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ngriffeth. Only administrators can delete pages. If you are the only contributor to a page, as is the case for Draft:Mary McClintock Davis, then you can request deletion by placing {{db-g7}} on the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
To withdraw the draft from the reviewing queue, remove the code at the bottom that says: {{AFC submission|||ts=20140517191553|u=Ngriffeth|ns=118}} . --LukeSurl t c 14:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, PrimeHunter and LukeSurl. Quick & helpful! I'll do both. Ngriffeth (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Resizing an image on a page

How do I make an image larger on a page? I've added a map, but it is too small. Steven C. Price 21:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price (talk • contribs)

Hi, Steven and welcome to The Teahouse. How does it look now?— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello Vchimpanzee, thanks for trying to make the change to the map "Colin and Julie's..." I'd be happy to try myself, but what should I do? Steven C. Price 21:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price (talk • contribs)
I changed "thumbnail" to "thumb" and tried "400px" in place of "1mbpx". That did make it bigger, but "200px" or "600px" might work too. You could try other numbers or ask at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee, Many thanks!Steven C. Price 15:47, 3 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price (talk • contribs)

May I publish this artist page?

Re: User:Thomjack/sandbox

I would be most obliged if someone could look at the page I am writing for an artist and let me know if I am on the right lines technically. I am finding all the referencing and citing a bit challenging right nowThomjack (talk) 17:35, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Just a quick note...Wikipedia cannot reference itself and blogs are not considered reliable as sources. Theroadislong (talk) 20:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Thornjack, I agree, referencing is a bit of a challenge. There are some plans to improve the process. Have you looked at Referencing for beginners?--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Accounts

Wiki friends, I am hoping someone might be able to help with this. I have not been able to log into accounts here on Wikipedia, so I had to start over. I believe one of the accounts I had has a bad email account attached and therefore, I cannot retrieve a lost password. Any help would be great, otherwise I suppose I will have to start over! Molly's Mind (talk) 21:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

@Molly's Mind: Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for your question. Unfortunately, if you can't access the e-mail address attached to an account on Wikipedia, your password cannot be reset. At this point, you'll have to stick with this new account, so just be careful that you've entered in your e-mail correctly and can always access it. I, JethroBT drop me a line 00:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

@JethroBT, thank you for responding to this. This is exactly what I feared, now I have to start from the bottom and earn my way up to where I was. Frustrating, but...here we go!! Off to a new start! Best Molly's Mind (talk) 02:39, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

@Molly's Mind: You can add a note to your user page which indicates that you used to edit as user:Foo, that way you can get "credit" for all your edits.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Account Age

Is there any way of quickly and conveniently checking the age of my Wikipedia account? Thanks, --Joseph Yanchar (talk) 19:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Joseph Yanchar, welcome back to the Teahouse. You can simply go to Special:ListUsers/Joseph Yanchar. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:39, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Joseph Yanchar, another thing you can do is to enable popups. That will deliver all kinds of good things (I couldn't live without it); one of which is if you hover your mouse over your signature, you will see the date you started and other useful information. Go to Preferences → Gadgets then check the box next to Navigation popups--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:50, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Administrator

Hey Teahouse, How can I become an administrator and also how can I become adopted into one of the admin classes some users have? Thanks, Schoolskater (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

You become an administrator by passing a request for adminship. Generally you are expected to have been around for a few months and have done a significant amount of work, and understand the main policies and guidelines. As to the "admin classes" you will probably have to ask the specific users. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC).
A very short guide to the process is at Wikipedia:Miniguide to requests for adminship. Needless to say, with an account created yesterday and an edit count of 8 (only 1 in mainspace), your interest might be regarded as premature. Think first about contributing to the encyclopedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:08, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Bal des débutantes article language reference

In the article of "Bal des débutantes" in Paris, there is a reference on the left side under "languages" to the French (Français) Wikipedia version of this article and an Italian (Italiano) Wikipedia version. However, when I clicked on the Italiano version, I am referred to a page from the Italian Wikipedia about debutante balls in general and not specifically about the Bal des débutantes in Paris. This seems wrong and misleading to me. Could somebody please advise me how the reference to the Italian Wikipedia in this article can be removed? Thanks.00 Marius Pontmercy 00 (talk) 17:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, 00 Marius Pontmercy 00. You do this by picking the "Edit links" link, which takes you to the Wikidata page from which all the different Wikipedia pages are linked. There you can remove the inappropriate link. I have just removed it.
 Done

Sockpuppet.

What is a sockpuppet? I went on !! user page and there is a sockpuppet and hummingbird. Please help me. Billy on Boxes (talk) 17:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Billy on Boxes. In Wikipedia jargon, a sock puppet is an extra or duplicate account created for deceptive or disruptive purposes. Such accounts can be created to artificially gain support in a dispute, or to evade a block or ban. Please see WP:SOCK for complete details. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:59, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

How to introduce new concepts

I realize that an encyclopedia is the proper place to find definitions that have precedents. It is a place where people can satisfy their curiosity about issues and events that are known and are established as knowledge or fact.

There's a grey area, however, that runs the gamut from idiocy and foolishness to Nobel Prize candidacy. Often a concept or a proposal will, itself, start at one end of that spectrum and eventually (sometimes suddenly) be accepted as profoundly worthy at the other. Most discoveries, in fact, follow that path, having been initially derided and challenged by conventional wisdom and practice, only to have had their lonely innovators proven later to be right.

Given this premise, what is the threshold over which a concept must pass in order to be exposed to the world in an encyclopedia like Wikipedia? What are the requirements that must be met in order for a notion to morph from someone's idle theory to a respected means of codifying a concept? What does an editor look for before she is willing to mark it of value to those who seek wisdom in the pages of Wikipedia?

EllisTraub (talk) 18:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. When adding material to the encyclopedia, it must come from published reliable sources. The page WP:NOR should address most of your questions on this topic. RudolfRed (talk) 18:13, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I wish to put a utube piece, in an article, but I want to direct the readers into one short segment

I wish to put a utube piece, in an article, but I want to direct the readers into one short segment, for instance, 5:16-6:14 (5 miniutes and 16 seconds in that piece up untill 6:14... how should I indicate it? 46.19.86.0 (talk) 19:32, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

You'll have to check the policies on how the use of links to youtube clips fit into wikipedia policies. I'm not entirely sure how you're planning to use it, so I can't give you any further information on that, but I typically link them in the external links section if there is a relevant clip available. Off the top of my head, one option would be to edit the video yourself and repost that specific clip on youtube. Another option would be to do set the link so that it cues specifically to the 5:16 mark. You can't set it to end at a specific point, but it's a start Bali88 (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
WP:YOUTUBE says: There is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube or other user-submitted video sites, as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page (see Restrictions on linking and Links normally to be avoided). Many videos hosted on YouTube or similar sites do not meet the standards for inclusion in External links sections, and copyright is of particular concern. Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked. Links should be evaluated for inclusion with due care on a case-by-case basis. Links to online videos should also identify additional software necessary for readers to view the content. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

New article

I created a new article and was hoping someone could look over it and hopefully approve it. If someone could take a few minutes to do that, it would be greatly appreciated!

Draft:TapWalk

Thanks! sergeymann (talk) 18:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi surgeymann, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your article looks pretty good so far. I am currently reviewing it. Cheers, TheQ Editor (Talk) 20:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Great! Thanks so much!

sergeymann (talk) 22:15, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Circular references

On the article for Samuel C. C. Ting I found 6 [citation needed] tags. I have been successful finding references and removing 5 of the 6, but I am stumped by the one that refers to his father's ancestral home in Rizhao County, Shandong province. The problem is that every source either cites the Wikipedia article or is an unattributed direct copy of the article. The editor who originally posted the information appears to have been inactive since 2008. I'm leaning toward deleting the information about his father's home county in China. Advice? Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:36, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Grand'mere Eugene. One of the core rules here at Wikipedia is verifiability which means a source has to be reliable. Wikipedia it's self is not considered a reliable source. I hope that helps. Whispering 22:58, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
@Grand'mere Eugene: Hey Eugene. I have sourced the entry. The search I used to find the information at Google Books was <Rizhao Ting physicist> Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:09, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Complete novice attempting to use sandbox

Attempted my first stub in my sandbox. Got reviewed and rejected which is fine. But now when I try and work in my sandbox it redirects me to the title of the stub I was drafting. I just want my sandbox back. What do I do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ambrosia10/sandbox Ambrosia10Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ambrosia10. When Wikipedia has followed a redirect, there will be a line just below the title that says "Redirected from XXX". The name in that is a link which you can pick to go to the redirection page itself. Edit it in the normal way; remove the REDIRECT code and replace it by your new material. --ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks ColinFine much appreciated. Ambrosia10 (talk) 00:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

hi! I need to indicate and direct the reader to see only a certain segment of a tv clip

hi! I need to indicate and direct the reader to see only a certain segment of a tv clip, how do I do represent the time segment I need (for instance from the 4th miniute and 15 seconds uo to 4 minute and 50 seconds)? KJH2014 (talk) 04:47, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, @KJH2014:, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you use the {{cite video}} template, you can use the "time=" parameter to denote a specific time, or the "location=" parameter if it has other location markers (such as chapters on a DVD). Hope this helps. --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Miscellany for deletion

I'm new to editing and recently worked on reviving a previously deleted biography. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mpa2014/Richard R. Pieper. It had been deleted in July of 2013. After extensive editing I resubmitted the article in May of 2014 and it was quickly declined. There have been a few comments by myself and others and at this point I'm confused regarding it's status. Can you help me understand the status?Mpa2014 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

@Mpa2014: Welcome to the Teahouse! As of right now, your article draft (located at User:Mpa2014/Richard R. Pieper) is intact and open for editing. You are encouraged to review the reason for the article's decline and try to improve the article accordingly. The deletion discussion you mention was based on invalid grounds, as article drafts are deleted after six months of inactivity; clearly you are actively working on your article, and as a result, the deletion discussion closed as "keep" and there is nothing to worry about. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your help SuperHamster! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpa2014 (talk • contribs) 12:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

How to get started?

I'm new, and I'd like to contribute. What can I do that won't piss off the community or be rejected? I'm down to copy edit or something. Thanks!

Seansmccullough (talk) 06:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Seanmccullough! First thing that can be done is to not use profanity on Wikipedia as there are some young users of it. Second what you can do to not annoy Wikipedia users is you can fix spelling errors, or add valid sources to articles that need editing. Schoolskater (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, glad you're keen to help. If you look at Wikipedia:Community_portal and scroll down to "Help out" there are lists of articles needing help. For an fun introduction to editing Wikipedia, including an introduction to the code system, why not try playing The Wikipedia Adventure? For our general help page on getting started, look at Help:Getting started. If you have more specific questions please do ask them here. All the best! --LukeSurl t c 13:03, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Article for review - Canadian Registered Safety Professional

Hello,

I've adjusted some major edits on the CRSP article (stated above). Would like to ask an experienced editor to assist in writing or mark-up language if they are any major flaws. Issues have been addressed and note is left on the page. Thanks in advance AdBCWi14 (talk) 00:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, AdBCWi14. I'm sorry, but as far as I can see Canadian Registered Safety Professional has only one reference to substantial coverage in a reliable source independent of the subject (and a second one, also to Canadian Occupational Safety, which would count as an acceptable reference to the board, but does not even mention the qualification). I'm afraid that given how hard you appear to have been looking for sources, it is unlikely that CRSP does currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
That is not entirely true as there are other reliable sources such as the ISO certification and Standards Council of Canada that warrant the notability. The other 2 associations referenced within the article CSP and IOSH have their info which I've followed and included more referenced sources for CRSP, so it does not seem to make sense? I will add the published pdf from IOSH which references CRSP within the article. AdBCWi14 (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello ColinFline - it also states the CRSP designation throughout magazine the source and even the domains associated with the examination for the designation. AdBCWi14 (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm afraid not, AdBCWi14. Directory entries (which is what the ISO and SCC references are) establish that a thing exists, but not that it is notable: that would require that somebody unconnected, such as a journalist, critic or scholar, have written at length about it. I don't quite understand your last paragraph, but I suspect that the same comment applies there too. --ColinFine (talk) 10:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Would it assist to remove the ISO references if it is not as notable? Any advice would help AdBCWi14 (talk) 13:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
No. The problem is the lack of references which assert notability, not the presence of references that do not. --LukeSurl t c 14:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
The main point of the article is on the designation itself, not ISO references. ColinFine - How is the CRSP listing substantially different from that of the Certified Safety Professional listing? 70.50.230.65 (talk) 14:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I would like to submit an article for review. Does it mean I will have to publicize it immediately after it is approved?

I would like to submit an article for review. Does it mean I will have to publicize it immediately after it is approved? 46.19.86.0 (talk) 19:26, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse. Answering the question that I believe you are asking; anything you submit to Wikipedia will be publicly visible as soon as you click "Save page". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:22, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
If you create an account, you can edit the article in your sandbox and ask people to look at it. The article will be visible to anyone who knows where it is, but it won't be part of the encyclopedia. RockMagnetist (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
It may also show up in Google searches... --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:37, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
...unless you add (double underscore)NOINDEX(double underscore) to the top of the draft. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:04, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Once an draft article is approved, it is often the case that no other articles link to it. This is known as an "orphan" article. This means it is formally part of the encyclopedia, but it is hidden away and unlikely to be found by any means other than a very specific Google search. It is probable that in those cases, unless the draft's primary author creates links to the new article from other articles, the article will remain an orphan for some time. --LukeSurl t c 15:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

How to make an article

Hey Teahouse, My uncle owns his own business maintaining and fixing airplanes, so I thought that it would be cool to create an article for his business. How do I create an article? Thanks,Schoolskater (talk) 12:16, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Schoolskater, and welcome to the Teahouse. Have you looked at your talk page yet? It has a lot of useful information, including a link to instructions on how to create a new page. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
But before you do anything else, please read our notability guidelines for companies and businesses.--ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:S.L. Benfica#Wrong link addressed to Portuguese Wikipedia article. Please solve this problem without commenting out the link [[pt:Anexo:Equipamentos do Sport Lisboa e Benfica]]. Fixed4u (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Fixed4u and welcome to the Teahouse. The link seems fine for me. If someone fixes the link, you need to purge the page first. Click here to purge. TheQ Editor (Talk) 21:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Did you perhaps intend https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S.L._Benfica&action=purge rather than https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S.L._Benfica&action=edit ? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:32, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
{{See also|pt:Anexo:Equipamentos do Sport Lisboa e Benfica}} breaks the link to the article in Português (Portuguese). Fixed4u (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Protection on articles

How can I protect my articles (if I can)?Oskar Kopaczewski (talk) 18:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse. Strictly speaking, no article is "yours", they are all "ours" (see WP:OWN). To the main point, Wikipedia:Protection policy discusses the various reasons for and levels of protection available. Only Admins can change the protection level on a page, but essentially anyone can request protection if they have a valid reason. The usual reasons are when articles are receiving an undue level of disruption or vandalism. Chris857 (talk) 19:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Oskar, and just to clarify, "disruption" means breaking Wikipedia's rules, not adding content you don't want.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Am I on the right track?

My article Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Carlos_Dews was declined. I have been trying to update to the reviewer's comments and am wondering if I have gotten anywhere close to having the article on the right track? Thanks! Oldbeeg (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Am I in violation of rules about posting to the Teahouse? I was hoping to get some eyes on my reworked article to see if I'm getting closer to an acceptable article or if it needs lots more work. Please help! Thanks. Oldbeeg (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Oldbeeg, and welcome to The Teahouse. People ask questions like this here all the time, so this is fine. I just took a quick look at the article and it seems good enough to me, though I'm not really an expert on these things. I would recommend an actual title for the Oxford American article if there is one, and other than that I don't say anything specific.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:41, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Vchimpanzee, for the look in. I will check what the most referenced name for the overall article is (there are multiple sections) and use it. Appreciate your time and help! Oldbeeg (talk) 20:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Concern about autobiography/conflict of interest

Hi. I have found a page that appears to be an autobiography (WP:AB). The page is WP:BLP and appears to have been created and edited almost exclusively by two single purpose accounts (WP:SPA) and it appears to me that the accounts may belong to the subject of the article. I have read WP:AB, WP:BLP, WP:SPA, WP:COI, and more, but I'm still not sure how to proceed from here, beyond marking the page with the "written like a resume" template and pointing the SPA's towards the WP:COI guidelines. I'm not sure if I should even link to the page here, since it is a WP:BLP created and maintained primarily by the SPA's, I'm worried about WP:OUTING. What is the proper plan of action here? Or is the best plan of action to take no further action? Thanks. Paisarepa (talk) 21:56, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Does the subject appear notable? If not, then WP:AFD would seem appropriate. If he/she might be notable, I think we might need to know which article it is to suggest a way forward. Chris857 (talk) 02:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
The article is Ryan Van Duzer. I'm really not sure if it meets the notability guidelines or not (I am a relatively inexperienced editor). It certainly isn't high profile, and there is nothing in the article that appears libelous, so it isn't an urgent issue needing speedy deletion or anything like that. Just what appears to be a probable conflict of interest, and an article that is more an advertisement than anything. Thanks. Paisarepa (talk) 05:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Paisarepa and thanks for the well thought out question. Autobiographical/promotional (which can be addressed by editing) and COI/SPA (which are not prima facie grounds for deletion) concerns aside, notability sufficient for an article's inclusion in Wikipedia requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Picking some of the references in the Van Duzer article, the Daily Camera is a local source based in Boulder, so it does not carry as much weight as would a national newspaper. NPR on the other hand is considered a reliable source, but the reference contains only a passing mention of Van Duzer. Horny Toad is a commercial site with no evidence as to editorial independence. Unfortunately, the New York Times reference does not work. This is just a snapshot of the referencing and is not a judgement as to the article's notability or otherwise.
In short, assessing the suitability of articles for deletion requires a degree of experience and a familiarity with all the policies and guidelines involved. If you use the Articles for Deletion page as a start point you will find a lot of information that should help you become more familiar with the process.  Philg88 ♦talk 06:39, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Philg88. I was more concerned with the apparent conflict of interest/autobiography/advertising and single purpose account issues than the notability of the article. With that said, I have been spending a lot of time on the articles for deletion page, trying to get a good handle on that so I appreciate your advice. For now I think I will just leave the page and users be, as I don't want to overstep my bounds as an editor since I don't have a good handle on the policies and culture around here yet. Thanks. Paisarepa (talk) 05:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome Paisarepa. As I said above, the autobiographical and promotional aspects can be dealt with by editing. I'd suggest that you boldly edit the article to address your concerns. If you follow Wikipedia guidelines on Biographies of living persons et al you will be on solid ground.  Philg88 ♦talk 05:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

If, for example, I wanted to put a link to the Wikipedia Advanced Placement site I would normally put Advanced Placement, which works fine. However, I want to be able to put AP and specify the page, rather than have the hyperlink be rerouted to AP (Disambiguation). Is it possible for me to do this? Entriess (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Entriess and welcome to The Teahouse. What you want is called a piped link. You would type the following: [[Advanced Placement|AP]]— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:55, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Piped links can be very useful, but in general, it is not a good idea to pipe to acronyms. You may know what "AP" means in the context of this particular article, but a reader less familiar with the topic than you are may not appreciate having to visit another page to learn what those letters mean. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Mistake

Dear Cullen. I thought that the picture Kids-175.jpg is not being used anywhere, so I marked it for speedy deletion, but I realized later on that it is being used in article "lake". Kindly help me and remove the tag of deletion. I dont know how to remove the tag. Best wishes Aftab Banoori (Talk) 07:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This image is on Wikimedia commons. Commons is a free media repository and does not exist solely for the benefit of Wikipedia. Images do not need to be used on a wiki page to be kept. I've said this on the deletion nomination on commons. It is very unlikely to be deleted. --LukeSurl t c 11:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I have also now added this image to the Khanpur Dam article here on the English Wikipedia. --LukeSurl t c 11:21, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks dear LukeSur1 I am realy greatful. I hope it will not going to be deleted Aftab Banoori (Talk) 11:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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