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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_21

December 21

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance

Propose deleting Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: All these pages are already in the categories "Portal-Class Comics articles" and "NA-importance Comics articles", ideally they should only be in "Portal-Class Comics articles", which should be a member of "NA-importance Comics articles", and this redundant category can simply be deleted. Fram (talk) 09:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably some technical solution for this needs to be found, but when it is implemented, it can also be applied to other types of pages which are always NA, i.e. every page in all subcategories of Category:NA-importance Comics articles except the actual articles cats (stub, start, C, GA, ...) should be removed from "... articles of NA-importance" and "NA-importance comics articles". As an example, Talk:10th Muse is now in three cats, it should only remain in "Redirect-Class Comics articles", and that cat should get "NA-importance comics articles". Simplify by removing redundancy. But I guess this belong at the Village pump, as this seems to happen with some other projects as well, and is presumably too much for the scope of CfD? Fram (talk) 09:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: now at WP:VPPR#Cleaning up NA-class categories. Fram (talk) 15:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose until the code to change all modules is posted and linked to from here We simply can't keep having these messes with class article categories where name changes are proposed but not properly implemented. The bot cannot amend the modules/templates to make this sort of change. In future proposers need to provide the code changes up front so they can be implemented when the CFD is closed, not leave another mess to accumulate with vague promises of future module changes. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It should be possible for people to propose these without having the knowledge to propose an actual code change, and the people at the module told me to first start a CfD to show that the code indeed needs changing. Fram (talk) 09:27, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - That just results in a mess when category changes get started but not completed and the closing admins are unable to process the change properly. If a complicated change is to take place it must be fully implementable and what needs changing clear before the discussion is closed. Otherwise we get yet more messes as the bots can't cope. If that locks things in rather than having another mess then so be it. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    MSGJ, am I correct that the module already prevents populating redlinked categories? There are obviously going to be some caching issues with any updates, but that is unavoidable. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 17:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes that is correct. For the quality/importance intersection categories, no category will be used unless it exists — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Timrollpickering: Is this sufficient? House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Try it and see. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you mean exactly? An example would be useful — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance and Category:Template-Class Guyana articles of NA-importance as completely redundant as all portals and templates will automatically and invariably have NA-importance. Please note: there are a few non-article classes which can be assigned an actual importance - redirects & drafts - because these are potential articles. So it might be worth retaining categories like Category:Redirect-Class Mumbai articles of Mid-importance and I would tend to defer to the preferences of the WikiProject in these cases — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Template-Class Guyana articles of NA-importance.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 03:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Members of the Australian House of Representatives by term

Propose deleting Category:Members of the Australian House of Representatives by term

Nominator's rationale: Not a defining category and these categories result in career politicians having far too many cats that indicate essentially the same thing. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:08, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Traumnovelle: Are you proposing the deletion of all its subcategories as well? If so, they should be tagged. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. It seemed easier to list the parent than listing 50 categories. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Commonly used category structure (see Category:Legislators by term). Nothing unique about Australian politicians that make them an exception. Diffuses otherwise overpopulated categories within Category:Politicians by century and nationality. If preferred, I wouldn't be against the creation of categories such as Category:20th-century members of the Australian House of Representatives and upmerging into this. That is how American legislators are sorted. Jevansen (talk) 04:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]