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Hello, HurricaneGeek, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to ask me on my talk page or place {{Help me}} on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome! I likehurricanes 20:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi I like hurricanes! Now I have a question for you. Shouldn't there be a Hurricane Epsilon article (2020)? I mean it was a major hurricane, and it was a record breaker. HurricaneGeek (talk) 21:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC) HurricaneGeek

Yeah, I would agree with your comment, though in the talk page archives of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, there was a debate of whether or not to create the article. Most opposed this, saying that the impacts were only minimal and it did not deserve one. I would advise not trying to make it, as editors will probably try to stop you, and delete it (which is a big pile of work down the drain). I likehurricanes 21:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok HurricaneGeek (talk) 00:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes! I joined the tropical cyclone project! HurricaneGeek (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, as I'm here, I might as well do this:

Hi, and welcome to the Tropical cyclone WikiProject! We are a group of Wikipedia editors who help to improve articles related to tropical cyclones on Wikipedia.

Looking for somewhere to start? Here are a few suggestions.

If you have any comments, suggestions, or would like to talk about the project in general, feel free to leave a message on the talk page.

I likehurricanes 01:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please fix your signature.

Your signature includes an unclosed <font> tag that causes the rest of the article to follow the font of your user talk page link. Please fix this to avoid massively changing talk pages. Thanks! Chlod (say hi!) 14:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, but on which talk page? HurricaneGeek

Hi there, HurricaneGeek. You can fix your signature by applying an end tag to your signature. If you want to have an italicized Times New Roman font for the "talk" portion of your user signature, just copy the following code into your user preferences and save the changes (you can copy this directly from the screen, without entering the editing window):
[[User:HurricaneGeek|HurricaneGeek]] <font face="Times New Roman">[[User talk:HurricaneGeek|''(talk)'']]</font>
Hope this helps! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
But which talk page? 🌀HurricaneGeek🌀 {talk} 18:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
This one. And probably some other talk pages that you were on before that. But I think that other users helped fix the formatting issues with your signature on those pages. And since you've changed your signature's code, it probably doesn't matter anymore. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 08:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
OK, thanks!🌀HurricaneGeek🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 13:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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Ok HurricaneGeek (talk) 11:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

44th edition of The Hurricane Herald!

Volume XLIV, Issue 44, December 1, 2020
←(Previous issues) 41 · 42 · 43 · 44 · 45 →


The Hurricane Herald: Happy Thanksgiving Edition!

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from October 5–November 30, 2020. This edition's editors and authors are SMB99thx, Weatherman27, Chicdat, Hurricanehink, Cyclone Toby, Typhoon2013, and ChessEric. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments

New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

Featured Content

From October 5 to November 30, two featured articles were promoted:

From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from October 5–November 30, 2020 in chronological order.

Today's Featured Article/List

There is currently one featured article candidate:

WikiProject To-Do


Here are some tasks you can do:

Current assessment table

Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project.

About the assessment scale →

Project Goals & Progress

The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
November 2020 Hurricane Iota
October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020)
September 2020 Cyclone Ianos
August 2020 Hurricane Laura
July 2020 Hurricane Isaias
June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold
February 2020 Cyclone Damien
January 2020 Cyclone Tino
December 2019 Cyclone Ambali
November 2019 Cyclone Bulbul
October 2019 Typhoon Hagibis

Storms of the month and other tropical activity for October and November

SotM for October: Typhoon Goni / Rolly
Typhoon Goni formed from east of The Philippines towards the end of October, just as Typhoon Molave ravaged the country. Taking in the plentiful favorable conditions, Goni, known as Rolly in The Philippines, explosively intensified into a Category-5 equivalent hurricane just three days after it became a tropical depression. An eyewall replacement cycle managed to curb its intensification. Goni finished the cycle a few hours before it made landfall, and explosively intensified again into winds of 195 mph (JTWC) and a pressure of 884 mbar. This allowed it to tie with typhoons Haiyan and Meranti as the strongest typhoon by wind speed. Goni made landfall at peak intensity, killing 25 people and causing US$368 million in damage.

SotM for November: Hurricane Iota
Hurricane Iota developed in the central Caribbean Sea in mid-November. Like Goni, it explosively intensified, strengthening 120 mph in 48 hours, and deepening 81 mbar in the same amount of time. Iota explosively strengthened late on November 15 and early on November 16, becoming a Category 5 hurricane at 15:00 UTC on the 16th. By the time Iota had achieved C5 intensity, three people were already dead in Colombia due to landslides. As the storm made landfall, and subsequently weakened and dissipated, adding to the destruction from Hurricane Eta. Iota killed at least 61 people.

  • Atlantic - Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota.

The active Atlantic hurricane season continued. In early October, Tropical Storm Gamma dissipated over the northern Yucatan and was absorbed by powerful Hurricane Delta, which was the season's third major hurricane. Delta weakened before hitting Quintana Roo, but restrengthened in the Gulf of Mexico, later hitting Louisiana as a low-end Category 2 hurricane in nearly the same location as Hurricane Laura in August. Delta killed six people and left US$4 billion in damage. A few days later, Hurricane Epsilon developed southeast of Bermuda, becoming a major hurricane and brushing the island to the east. Hurricane Zeta followed a similar path as Delta, striking Quintana Roo and later striking southeastern Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane; it killed 8 people and left U$3 billion in damage. At the end of the month, Hurricane Eta developed, becoming a strong Category 4 hurricane before striking Nicaragua. After killing hundreds of people in Central America, Eta reformed in the northwestern Caribbean. It made another landfall in Cuba, moved over the Florida Keys, and briefly became a hurricane again in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, before weakening and striking Cedar Key, Florida as a tropical storm. In early November, Tropical Storm Theta developed from a non-tropical low and moved across the eastern Atlantic.

Member of the month (edition) – Robloxsupersuperhappyface

Robloxsupersuperhappyface joined Wikipedia in July of this year, and has become the most prolific tropical cyclone editor relating to current events, as well as playing an enormous role in creation of newly formed tropical cyclones that eventually became destructive in many regions they are affected in (Hurricane Sally to Gulf Coast of the United States, Typhoon Goni to the Philippines, and Hurricane Iota to Central America respectively - Also, both Goni and Iota are Storms of the Month!). Because of that reason, Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles are the one of the most viewed tropical cyclone articles in this year - as well as helped us on inviting prospective tropical cyclone editors to this project as they edited Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles, leading into why we have more than 100 members in this WikiProject leading to this issue. As the result of brilliant Robloxsupersuperhappyface's contributions, we want to give many, many thanks to Super for helping this WikiProject grow so much recently. Happy Thanksgiving!

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter - project membership is over 100 now!

More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically in order of which they joined.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Let's talk about that - An opinion piece by Weatherman27

Before I start, I would like to link everyone to a new essay regarding Force Thirteen. Here it is: WP:F13. I recommend users (old and new) to read this to understand why we don't use Force Thirteen as a source, and why it isn't a reliable source. If you want to see what good reliable sources are, read this: WP:WPTC/AS Now, I will get to the main point of this opinion piece.

Recently, I have gotten more involved in talk pages, and sharing my ideas and/or my opinions on different issues or ideas that have come up, primarily on 2020 Atlantic hurricane season's talk page. As I have discussed these thoughts and ideas with other editors, I have noticed and experienced some things such as being personally attacked, which has led me to want to reiterated some key points here. Despite the fact that they are mentioned commonly at the top of talk pages, I want to bring these up as it is important to have a good base where people can properly chat and discuss topics in peace.

1. Treat others with respect This one can't be stressed enough. Especially on talk pages, it is a place where you and your peers communicate issues, opinions, or ideas to each-other. This means discussing topics in a kind and adult manner. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in what somebody may say, but that does not mean that you have the right to put them down for not having similar views. It is simply the Golden Rule.

2. Assume Good faith Along with my first point, I feel this one needs to be brought up. People have different opinions, and that is all right, but just because you may not agree with it or what they say, does not mean that it was not out of good faith. They were most likely voicing what they think on the subject, and that is alright. This also goes for edits. Unless it is pretty obvious that a user as vandalized something, it is always good to assume good faith, as other people might not know the rules as well as a more experienced editor.

3. Avoid Personal attacks This is a very important subject that needs to be remembered not just on talk pages, but on all other parts of Wikipedia as well. On talk pages, discussions can get pretty tense and heated, and I admit that I have gotten into a few of these arguments as well. Despite this, it is never okay to attack someone. As a user who has gotten personally attacked before, I can definitely say that it does not feel good, and usually the person who made the attacked will get warned or blocked, so please be kind and accept what other people have to say, because you will get nowhere by being rude.

4. Come to a consensus (preferably a clear one) On talk pages, whenever there is a discussion regarding something important like the merging of an article, people need to decide what the outcome of something important on a talk page. For example, if there is say, a merge discussion for an article on a tropical cyclone, many people will give their input. Usually, different people will have different views on whether to merge or keep the article. Sometimes, the editor will close the discussion early, but this is usually for unrelated reasons, though it sometimes may be because the editor had a change of mind. Now, if there is support for say a merge of the article, then that will be the consensus and the discussion will be closed and the article merged. This can also happen on the opposite side, if an article is to be kept, the discussion will be closed and article kept. Simply put, it is important to discuss and come to a clear decision if there is a consensus involved, to avoid difficulty with the article or page in the future.

These are just a few examples of things that editors of the WPTC need to remember when using talk page discussions. There are plenty of other things not mentioned here that are just as important when it comes to using talk pages. I made this simply to help remind editors the key points when using the discussions, and I hope these were helpful to new users as well as veterans. We need to really get better at staying calm and keeping civil. I have noticed lots of hostility and arguing lately, as well as edit warring and disputes. We need to work this out. We are supposed to work together as WPTC editors, so please fix it. It is sad seeing so many editors getting reported or having to get blocked from this. Once again, keep discussions civil and have a good day. Signing off,

🌀Weatherman27🏈

My experiences as a WikiProject Tropical cyclones member by SMB99thx

Hello again, people of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones! In here, I want to tell how my experiences with WikiProject Tropical Cyclones changed my views on WikiProjects, helped me out of trouble and to be able to regain the trust of many people in Wikipedia.

When I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones, it was the second WikiProject I have ever joined. The first WikiProject I have ever joined is WikiProject COVID-19, and the reason why I joined that project is to gain trust of people when I contributed to COVID-19 articles and as well as my fight against an IP editor which turned out to be the LTA named Bedriczwaleta (and has been active much more longer than I thought, since February of last year (!!!!)). I have the same thought process (and combined with my plans of editing old season articles, which is not done yet) when I first joined this WikiProject, but joining the WikiProject Tropical cyclones turned out to be something different. It led me to know what are the purposes of WikiProjects are and in turn led me to join many other WikiProjects since.

As such, what made me change my views on WikiProjects during my time as a WikiProject Tropical Cyclones?

First of all, I have seen that WikiProject Tropical cyclones members always actively work together to advance project goals, actively participating in discussions and give much-needed advice on new WikiProject Tropical cyclones members (including me). Second, WPTC really cares about our articles (and the assessments) as part of their project goals. 2018 FT project and Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian (Four Award!) is a prime example of this. Third, we are actively welcoming the new members of this WikiProject and giving these members opportunity to succeed with us by i.e. giving out WikiLove (barnstars). Fourth, we, like WP COVID-19, actively fight against vandals and other LTAs e.g. Sidow........., UnderArmorKid, and Iphonehurricane95.

These kinds of activity led me to change my belief on what WikiProjects truly are. You could see this kind of activity on other good WikiProjects like WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, which I just joined recently on 26 October 2020 as of this newsletter and WikiProject Articles of Creation, which I have interest on joining but I might not be able to.

Now, why WikiProject Tropical cyclones brought me out of trouble (and Chicdat, for that matter)?

WikiProject Tropical cyclones is generally a content-creating WikiProject. We really care about improving tropical cyclone coverage on Wikipedia. Members of this WikiProject generally encouraged to communicate and discuss (in Wikipedia, in Discord, or in IRC channel), and this is what helped me and Chicdat out from trouble since our discussions from what I have seen is not always administrative.

Before I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones (and when I was still new to WikiProject Tropical cyclones), I have been putting myself on trouble numerous times. I was an ANI regular, and as an ANI regular I detailed about my struggle to deal with the LTA Bedriczwaleta and I'm was also putting up IBAN proposals of User:Jadebenn and User:Moamem as well as User:U1Quattro and User:1292simon. While I have managed to get my proposal succeeded and finally got Bedriczwaleta back on track for a while (what I thought), in August 20 (as I was about to finalize my decision to enter my college I'm currently in right now) I got myself into serious trouble against IP range 185.66.252.0/23 (which is apparently good at programming - I'm not). I tried to get them blocked for PA (calling me a thief who has a black soul), but this is where when I realized that I had to attribute things I copied within Wikipedia and I had to apologize to the user. Since then, I did my best to attribute everything I had copied articles from (Example) and I also realized that ANI is not for me (as I do not want to get into troubles by just being there), which led me to quitting ANI until November of this year when I decided to involve myself on Miggy72 dispute (now banned for sockpuppetry - Miggy72 could have been invited to WPTC if he stopped on insisting to create non-notable topics).

After that incident with the IP range 185.66.252.0/23, I have stated that I do not want to get myself into trouble as a presence in ANI. As such, I decided to focus on what I want to do, which is to continue my project of splitting season articles of the yesteryear and began to increasingly involve myself within the project - to look for help and giving the best help that I can do for this WikiProject. The activity from that September led me to become Member of the Month in the previous edition of this newsletter. It was a comeback that I needed, and I want to thank WikiProject Tropical cyclones (especially Hurricanehink) for getting me on this situation. Without their help, I'm not sure if I could be here on this day.

Now, for the final question – why this WikiProject helped me (and Chicdat) regain trust of many people in Wikipedia?

As I stated before, this WikiProject encourages discussion within other members of this WikiProject, which in turn encourages close involvement in all sides of this WikiProject. Because of this, some people are actually helping us learning policies in Wikipedia as the time goes on, rather than falling in into blocks. As such, with time, I have seen that some admins are open for Chicdat to become a rollbacker, while I got hold on several automated gadgets that was more useful. It appears that these tools are the reason why these people are one of the more trusted people in Wikipedia, which in turn helped me a lot at gaining trust. Someday in the future, I'm looking to become an admin by myself. But that's for the another day. For now, what I'm currently doing now is to work at my craft to eventually prepare for the day when I will seek for adminship in the years ahead.

In conclusion, you can see that this WikiProject helped me to regain my standing, alongside Chicdat, Nioni1234, Cristianpogi678, HurricaneTracker495 - and of course - CyclonicallyDeranged! If not for this WikiProject, I don't think they are will be here. Chicdat could have been CIR-blocked like Prahlad balaji and PythonSwarm, Nioni1234 and Cristianpogi678 ending up like Binbin0111 and Miggy72, HurricaneTracker495 would have a trouble establishing himself (or probably will never establish theirselves and stay as an IP) and CyclonicallyDeranged fully driven out from Wikipedia.

By the way, to me, both Binbin0111 and Miggy72 are young, but unfortunately they took on the wrong path (Binbin0111 was one of the earliest Force Thirteen insinuators - Binbin0111 is probably the impetus of Force Thirteen policy in this project (as it was made back in 2017), while Miggy72... we know what happened). I feel bad for them, especially Binbin0111. Had Binbin0111 is willing to learn and took steps forward to become productive young editor like Yellow Evan and two other resilient young editors I have mentioned did, Binbin0111 could have been one of the most valuable editors in this project, especially in matters related to Western Pacific basin, and in extension, Vietnam.

That's it. That's what I have to say. College is increasingly getting into my feelings right now, but I will do my best as I can coming into December. Sorry if I have a bad English. Thanks for reading this opinion piece!

Greetings from Indonesia,

SMB99thx my edits!

Area of interest on Wikipedia

Hey there! I saw you've been making lots of edits to tropical cyclone articles. I just wanted to check, what area of tropical cyclones are you most interested in? There are tons of articles that need help, both new and old, and around the world, as well as more general topics. We have a lot of members of the WPTC, but a lot of users tend to stop writing about tropical cyclones when the season ends. I just wanted to reach out and see, maybe, if there's anything you're planning on working on, and if so, if you need any assistance. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I am interested in famous tropical cyclones, and I am planning to make an article starting the next month or so. 🌀♄☋☈☈♗☾ꍏ♫€'❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 14:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Right on! There are plenty of notable cyclones, and we have a list of the most vital articles. Are you planning on jumping right into a big storm? Or are you looking to write an article from scratch? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I'll probably jump to a big storm. 🌀♄☋☈☈♗☾ꍏ♫€'❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 15:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Awesome! A few editors have discussed getting Hurricane Irene (which I see you experienced) to featured article status by its 10 year anniversary next year. The article is incomplete at the moment, and for such a big storm, it's best to focus at one area at a time. For example, there are sub-articles for Irene's effects in New Jersey and New York. Or, you could focus on one particular area affected by the storm. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Great, thanks! 🌀♄☋☈☈♗☾ꍏ♫€'❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 17:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
What should I do in the article? 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Which one are you interested in? Writing is easiest when I find a topic I really wanna get invested in. So if you're not feeling any of my suggestions, that's fine. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Which article did you want to do? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Any notable one that hasn't been evaluated that well. 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 20:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
What about something like Hurricane Stan, which is only start-class? Either that or Hurricane Dennis, also from 2005, but has the advantage of having several sub-articles (some of which are already good articles). The main thing missing is Cuban impact. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Sure, will do! 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 10:55 Wednesday, December 9, 2020

Just checking, related to the discussion below, did you copy content and paste it directly into Wikipedia? That's not allowed, unfortunately. Be sure to write everything on Wikipedia in your own words, and be sure to provide a reliable source. If you have any questions on that, I can help. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I was having trouble paraphrasing the following text:

After striking Cuba on July 8, 2005, Hurricane Dennis had lost strength from passing over land. However in the Gulf of Mexico, it recovered and strengthened into a powerful Category 4 storm once again during the early morning hours of July 9th, with maximum sustained winds back up to 125 knots (144 mph). 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 16:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

So it looks like you were trying to summarize the met history in the middle of the rest of the met history. Be sure to read the entire paragraph to keep a sense of the flow. The storm struck Cuba twice before entering the GoM, but you kinda glossed over that. The part about Cuba that's needed is impact and aftermath, which can be found at a variety of websites. For the storm causing over $1 billion in damage, there's very little info on it. Also, one quick note: the WPTC doesn't use knots in writing. We convert to mph and km/h, because that's what the public knows. Let me ask first - do you need help in adding/editing articles? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The two articles that I am pulling information from is this and this 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Good, I'm glad you have sources. When you're writing impact sections, it's best to start with the meteorological impacts (peak winds/gusts/rainfall/tornadoes/storm surge), then get into the physical impacts (number of houses damaged/destroyed, crop damage, other infrastructure damage). Are you trying to add info to the impact section, preps, or aftermath? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:14, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Impact. 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Gotcha. Do you know what needs to be done, or do you need any assistance? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, how do you exactly cite sources? 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

The most basic way is adding <ref> and </ref> before and after the url. If you're looking to improve an article to good article status, you'll have to be more specific with the refs, by adding {{cite web|author=XXXX|date=XXXX|title=XXXX|publisher=XXXX|accessdate=December 10, 2020|url=XXXX}} inside of the <ref> / </ref> tags. Some sources won't have a specific author's name, so that's fine if it's skipped. Likewise, if you only have the year, you can put |year=2020 instead of |date=XXXX. The publisher should be whatever is the parent agency, like the National Hurricane Center. In the case of ReliefWeb, that isn't really the publisher, since the website compiles reports from different agencies. In that case, you would use |at=ReliefWeb, instead of |publisher=. Also, if it's a news article, you would indicate |agency=Associated Press (or some other publication), as well as |newspaper=The New York Times, for example. It's a lot to do sourcing properly, so if at first you just want to do the basic references, that's fine, you can always improve them later on. The more important thing is adding the content to the article and identifying the source. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Great, thanks! 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:33, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Should I enter the following text in the article? The hurricane caused 16 deaths in Cuba, the most of any storm since Hurricane Flora in 1963, which caused over 1,100 deaths and prompted a complete restructuring of Cuba's emergency preparedness systems, which now rank among the best in the developing world. Over 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated in advance of the storm, along with nearly 17,000 tourists. Initial estimates of economic damage from Hurricane Dennis are over $1.4 billion, although in a televised speech and program on July 11 and 12 Fidel Castro indicated that had the storm struck the city of Havana directly, the damage could have exceeded $3 billion. Storm assessment and recovery efforts have been hampered by severe damage to electrical and communications services across the island from Hurricane Dennis. These include the destruction of over 1,000 electrical power poles, 28 radio and communication relay towers, 4 television towers, and 39 high voltage electric towers by the storm's ferocious winds. Initial reports indicated that more than 120,000 homes were damaged by the storm, 15,000 of which collapsed; 24,000 of which had their roofs blown off; 60,000 of which had partial roof damage; and 25,000 of which had other damage. Over 73,000 Cuban people were reported to be homeless and nearly 160,000 did not have adequate shelter as a result of damages caused by the storm. Also reported was significant damage to schools, stores, and factories throughout the island along with 160 health facilities, including clinics, hospitals, and physicians’ offices. Cuba's official newspaper Granma reported on July 12 that 2.5 million people (over 20 percent of the Cuban population) were without running water due to damage to water distribution systems, contamination of water supplies, and/or the lack of electrical power to run water pumps. The affected areas were reportedly being served by water tankers until their systems could be repaired, cleaned, or otherwise back in service. [1] 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

So there's a few issues. First, your paragraph has preparations, impact, and aftermath. You need to make sure that any preparations (such as evacuations) go into the preparations section, then actual impacts go in the impact section, and any aftermath (such as repairs/restoration of service) go in aftermath. Another problem is that the link doesn't work. Are you sure that's a working url? And lastly, there already is information about Cuba in the article. Don't just delete existing information in favor of adding your own - try and integrate your text and add anything that's missing. Lastly, you don't need to add stuff like "Cuba's official newspaper Granma reported on July 12". We will know who reports it from the reference. The article should describe the storm and its impacts, and not about who's describing the storm/impacts. For instance, we have a good damage total, so we don't need to report what the late Fidel Castro said might've been the damage total, or an initial damage total. Does that make sense? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I copyed and pasted the URL, should work. 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:54, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
It says "service unavailable". Where did you find that source from? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The link works for me. It opens the PDF. 🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure why that link wasn't working for me, but I found this url that also works - [1] ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
That's the same PDF!.🌀❡€€ϰ🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


Recent edit reversion

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

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I do occasionally make mistakes. We get hundreds of reports of potential copyright violations every week, and sometimes there are false positives, for a variety of reasons. (Perhaps the material was moved from another Wikipedia article, or the material was properly licensed but the license information was not obvious, or the material is in the public domain but I didn't realize it was public domain, and there can be other situations generating a report to our Copy Patrol tool that turn out not to be actual copyright violations.) If you think my edit was mistaken, please politely let me know and I will investigate. S Philbrick(Talk) 15:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

A smile for you!

Hello Cyclone Corona, Destroyeraa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks for the smile you gave me! Let me give one to you! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 19:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: Thank you! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 19:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Archives found and put where they belong

Your user talk archives were saved to User talk:HerricaneGeek/Archive 1 a few days ago. Because of the mis-spelling they were not moved when your account was renamed. I moved the page to User talk:HurricaneGeek/Archive 1 without leaving a redirect. I then moved it to User talk:Cyclone Corona/Archive 1, leaving a redirect behind. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: OK, thanks for letting me know! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 19:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in India

Hey there, thanks for working on the list. I see you took my suggestion at making them go one by one. Check out other lists, such as List of Florida hurricanes (2000-present). You should have a short 1-4 sentence description, depending how impactful the storm was, but don't include irrelevant info. Also be sure to cite everything. The 2001 India cyclone should be listed as something like:

  • May 29 - a cyclonic storm struck Gujarat, days after weakening from its peak as an extremely severe cyclonic storm. It killed between 120–900 fishermen offshore. Along the coast, the storm produced high waves that destroyed 200 homes.

Does that make sense? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

No need for it too look like that. If your looking for examples, look at List of Georgia hurricanes, or List of Florida hurricanes (2000–present), as Hink said. Only a paragraph and a couple sentences are needed, not much more, as Hink said. Just follow his suggestions, and you will be successful in making a paragraph for a storm. Stay safe, Cyclone Toby 01:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
OK, thanks guys! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 15:44, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: and @Cyclone Toby: Can you help me finish this: Draft:Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm BOB 05? Thanks, 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 18:30, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the cupcake! The article looks decent so far. Could you remind me in a week or so? This week I'm busy traveling and doing holiday celebrations, but I should have a lot more time for wikiing after the 30th. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: It’s been created! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 17:37, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Topicons

Some "top icons" on user pages should only be used by people to whom they apply.

For example, as far as I can tell, you do not have the "page mover" user-right. I say "as far as I can tell" because if you were just granted it a few seconds before I checked, I may be looking at out-of-date information.

Please review the items on your user page and remove those that suggest you belong to certain groups that you don't belong to, at least not yet.

Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: I actually do have page mover rights, give me any page that needs to be moved, and I can do it. 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 16:24, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
I think I see the confusion. Auto-confirmed editors can move pages, but this is not the same as the WP:Page mover user-right. When I click on "verify" on the "page mover" userbox on your user page, your name does not show up. For that matter, it doesn't show up when I click "verify" in the extended-confirmed userbox either. According to this you don't have either user-right yet. According to this you are less than 30 edits away from receiving the extended confirmed user-right that comes with 500 edits and a 30-day-old account, so there's probably no point in "removing" that userbox and that topicon since you should have that user-right within a day or two. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 17:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
@Davidwr: Oh, ok, thanks for letting me know! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 17:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing it. I noticed that your user talk page topicon list says you are not an administrator but you have administrative rights on the English Wikipedia. Are you a quantum user? Well, maybe I can collapse your quantum state by making an observation. There, now I know you are not an administrator, but I have no idea how fast you are moving toward or away from wielding the mop. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 02:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
@Davidwr: Oh, sorry. I copied and pasted the talk header from Hurricanehink. I didn't realize that I copied the topicon too. Sorry again! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 13:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Please also remove the autopatrolled topicon, as you are quite definitely not autopatrolled. — Yours, Berrely (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • Talk∕Contribs 17:49, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Done! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 17:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Oh, and you are now extendedconfirmed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 18:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Whaled


Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

You have been whaled for: The Draft: Effects of Hurricane Andrew in Louisiana is talking about the storm just in Louisiana, where it was weaker, and not in the storm as a whole. HurricaneTracker495 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@HurricaneTracker495: Darn! Thanks for letting me know. 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 19:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)~

Happy Holidays!

Hello Cyclone Corona: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message
~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: Thanks! You too! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 18:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 2000 South Indian cyclone has been accepted

2000 South Indian cyclone, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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SMB99thx my edits! 04:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

I hope you succeed in your exams! SMB99thx my edits! 05:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@SMB99thx: Yay! Thanks, I'm gonna need that luck. 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 15:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Effects of Hurricane Eta in Nicaragua

I highly recommend requesting deletion pe WP: G7 or letting it rot and be deleted per WP: G13. The reasons are

  1. There is an article for it in Honduras, and it got merged(not even draftified!)per WP: CFORK. Like, 3 paragraphs total
  2. 2 deaths and $179 million isn't enough in today's world
  3. No other article has one for Nicaragua
  4. It is only 32 kB of prose.

You can redirect if you want or continue working on it, but I cannot see it being accepted by AFC. Sorry to put it so harshly, but I can't see it succeeding.

Best luck, --Hurricane Tracker 495 23:51, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@HurricaneTracker495: It doesn't matter how many people it killed or how much damage it caused, really (see Effects of Hurricane Charley in South Carolina and Effects of Hurricane Charley in North Carolina). Honestly, as long as it's not all completely copy and pasted, and the main article is a little bloated, then I think it's okay. Merry Christmas, Cyclone Toby 13:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
That used to be true(Effects of Hurricane Floyd in Florida), but not so much anymore(although that did $50 million). It's because now we've tightened up. We just aren't murdering those articles that survived. Hurricane Eta's prose size is ~32 kB as I said(remember, 1024 bytes is a kilobyte, not just 1000), and it's gonna be a WP: CFORK vio. Same reasons the Honduras one was merged. --Hurricane Tracker 495 13:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Cyclone Corona,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! HurricaneEdgar 17:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
– Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
@HurricaneEdgar: Thanks! You too! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 21:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  1. ^ https://ufdcimages.uflib.ufl.edu/IR/00/00/20/34/00001/FE57000.pdf
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