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2025 Canadian federal election

Howdy. I'll start an RFC at the 2025 Canadian federal election page, if you'll formulate the RFC question. GoodDay (talk) 20:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GoodDay: I'm confused. I think you just wrote that we don't need another RFC, but you're here saying I should start one, after I also tried to say that this doesn't need to be settled now since it'll all change in a few months anyway. I'm fully on board with respecting the result of the 2021 discussion until there's a reason to believe that something has changed, I'm just pushing for internal consistency in the article. Simonm223 is the one suggesting we should push an RFC now, maybe you should ask him. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The only other alternative, is to have Arkenstrone banned from the page. GoodDay (talk) 20:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like a pretty extreme reaction to an editor with a minor disagreement over this utterly insignificant point. Although one of their recent comments did seem like they're coming to this with an unreasonably positive view of the PPC's standing in 2025. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) It's true, while Ivanvector and I know each other and are friends we don't always agree on Wikipedia topics. I suggested an RFC mostly because it seems like the argument is going around in circles regarding the interpretation of a four-year-old RfC. It seems like, if people are going to make this urgent, then a refreshed consensus makes sense. However I have no strong feelings one way or the other on including minor parties on the page TBH. Simonm223 (talk) 20:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talking about Juno cast

Juno (film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Look @Ivanvector, all I'm saying is, Juno is the mother of Juno's child, she's been pregnant for nine months BigStoneonWiki (talk) 02:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BigstoneonWiki: I understand what you're saying and I'm not disagreeing with you. It just doesn't need to be said that Juno is the mother of her own child. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 07:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I don't want to argue with you, I just saying BigStoneonWiki (talk) 08:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry on the eligibility of a page on Requests for page protection/Increase: Difference between revisions

Gang rape#India has been subject to routine vandalism every month. Which you said doesn't qualify for it. Just to confirm, is this actually normal for wikipedia; the page is seriously meant to be like that forever? Random IPs can get their way for months unguarded? ContributedEditor (talk) 07:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ContributedEditor: Thanks for your question. One of Wikipedia's fundamental principles is that it is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. We always consider protection requests against that fundamental principle, and in general we only protect pages in response to active, ongoing disruption, when there is no better solution. Usually that means many disruptive edits by multiple editors in a short period of time, or it can mean a pattern of disruptive editing over a longer period of time. On gang rape I don't think either of those are happening: you found an error added several weeks earlier (so protection today would not help, in fact it might prevent someone else from fixing other errors), and before that I went back all the way to November to find just one edit that I thought was vandalism. I also don't think there's a pattern here, since the last time the article was protected was all the way back in 2023, and that was only for two days. You can read WP:PREEMPTIVE for more on this. Cheers! Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IP sock puppet evasion

Hello. That block evader (2.97.98.195 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 2.97.212.207 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)) is back again, this time as 2.97.219.149 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Their IP addresses geolocate to the UK. Can you please look into this? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:55, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sjones23: yeah, they pinged me a bunch of times. Ad Orientem already blocked their latest IP but 48 hours isn't long enough for this vandal. I've added a three month rangeblock, the range is not particularly busy. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:14, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: I see you've had some interaction with this editor too. The 48 hour block was definitely not their first. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm sounds like I need to get tested for herpes then, Ivanvector? Drmies (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Successful page protection level decrease requests without the need to ask protecting admin

So as I mentioned earlier, I have had several page protection level decrease requests approved - and never have I ever had to ask the protecting admin for permission on any of them. Examples include Eric the Actor, Jonghyun, John Stephenson (actor), Colin Powell, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Ian Waddell, Herbert Sandler, Bernie Madoff, Mike Weatherley, and Gene Wilder - and those were all last month, and all for similar reasons.

Looking closer at these archives, it appears that Daniel Case was responsible for approving most of these requests. 100.7.34.111 (talk) 18:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I personally believe that ending protection on an article about a dead person, imposed while they were still alive, where there was no controversy about the death nor lingering controversy about some aspect of their lives, and where the six-month BDP window has lapsed, is something that does not require consulting the original protecting admin. Daniel Case (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) That's fine, Daniel is a competent administrator and WP:IAR is policy. I would not have approved any of those requests if the protecting admin was active, per the instructions on the page, but Daniel can make his own decisions. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And for an article like Pope Benedict XVI, although the reason in the protection log is BLP issues and that's clearly not still a concern, they're a controversial figure who led a controversial organization, and I don't know the article history to see if there are other reasons why their biography was under protection continuously for 15 years, so I would ask the blocking administrator before doing anything. If the instructions on the page say that you should ask them, and you haven't, I decline the request. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Or at least I would write below the request, "Hey Ged UK, you protected this article 15 years ago, does it still need to be protected?" and let them do what they like. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Ivan, have a look here. Indo-Greek 16:58, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]