User talk:Mr. Stradivarius/Archive 26
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Custom variables for DiffOnly
Not a big deal, but I wonder if you'd consider modifying your (excellent) DoffOnly script to allow for custom text beyond the built-in "only"? Likewise for the DOT_SEPARATOR variable. I imagine folks might find it useful. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Draftify may need an update before edit summary pings are deployed
Hey there! So phab:T32750 is going to be deployed next Thursday. With this, any edit summary that links to someone else's userpage will ping them. It looks like your Draftify script will be affected, when I assume you don't necessarily want to issue pings with this script. You can disable the pings by simply prefixing a colon, like [[:User:MusikAnimal]]
. I see you're somewhat inactive these days, so if I don't hear from you by next Thursday, I may boldly make the changes myself (very simple and low-risk), hopefully that's okay! :) Thanks for the awesome script, and hope all is well. — MusikAnimal talk 00:30, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I don't think SpamUserPage.js will be affected, but be mindful of that one, too, along with any of your other scripts. Regards — MusikAnimal talk 00:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: Thanks for the message. I've gone ahead and made the fix to Draftify, and I'll have a look at my other scripts as well. Let me know if you spot anything else that needs fixing. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:25, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
CSS word wrap bug
Hi, just noticed this bug in the Message box and figured you might be a good person to notify, since the cause isn't readily apparent. Any ideas? --pmj (talk) 05:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Pmj: Youch! ;) Actually, this is because of TheDJ's edit to MediaWiki:Common.css. I'm guessing
break-word
would be better thanbreak-all
, but there's a chance I might be missing something. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:55, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Saw your name
I saw your name at WP:VPT today and realized that I'd barely seen you around for a year or more. I hope that all's well. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Whatamidoing (WMF): Yep, all is well with me. I'm still around sporadically, although I'm not as active as I used to be, mostly due to <drumroll> my first developer job. :) (I should probably get around to updating my user page at some point - I started it last summer.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:11, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Congratulations on the job. I also find that being employed interferes with editing. ;-) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Converting CSD to Lua
Since yesterday, I have been creating a Lua replacement for the CSD templates: Module:Speedy deletion. Could you solve the Lua error at line 82: attempt to concatenate a table value (at Module talk:Speedy deletion/testcases)? Thanks. Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 11:52, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Luis150902: I don't have to investigate further at the moment, but some Q&D testing shows that the following is a table:
mw.uri.fullUrl(pagename, "action=purge")
- Appending ".path" might fix it, but studying the doc is required. Johnuniq (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Luis150902 and Johnuniq: If memory serves correctly,
tostring(mw.uri.fullUrl(pagename, "action=purge"))
should do the trick. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:21, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Luis150902 and Johnuniq: If memory serves correctly,
- @Luis150902: Exactly what do you hope to accomplish by converting this to use Lua? {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently "This module also eases porting speedy deletion to other wikis, even if they -- do not use the same set of criteria as the English Wikipedia." is one of them. I also see a lot of code duplication between the various speedy deletion templates - they seem essentially the same except for the text - reducing that would increase maintainability Pppery. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- I generally dislike code duplication (as you can see from my signature), but don't see any problematic code duplication here. {{db-meta}} seems just as unspecific to me as Module:Speedy deletion could be, except minus some of the boilerplate. Why doesn't someone move the categorization into {{db-meta}} to reduce duplication into one call of a template with parameters, which seems less boilerplate-y and easier to follow than the /config method that the module seems to use. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 17:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Luis150902, Pppery, and Galobtter: I don't think there is all that much code duplication in {{db-meta}} itself, but I do think that there is much room for improvement with it. The logic and the presentation are all jumbled together (all too easy to do with MediaWiki templates, unfortunately). To improve the situation I would move all the logic to Module:Speedy deletion, and keep only the presentation details at {{db-meta}}, and then expand {{db-meta}} from Module:Speedy deletion using frame:expandTemplate. That would also reduce all the fiddly string formatting that is in the Speedy deletion module at the moment - that kind of stuff is much more suited to templates. (If you do need to do it, then string.format is handy - also see this cheat sheet.) I've done something similar to this at Module:Current events monthly archive and Template:Current events monthly archive/display if you would like an example.
We should also move the CSD code data out of Module:Csdcheck and into a data module somewhere so that it can be used independently and possibly extended. And it would be great to clear up the messages duplicated between Template:Db-notice-multiple and the other speedy deletion notices. In short, I agree that it is high time for a reworking of all of these templates. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr. Stradivarius: I agree with moving the data. The target data module is Module:Speedy deletion/config. If you want changes in the module, be bold by doing them! Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 13:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
The logic and the presentation [being] all jumbled together
is not a problem whatsoever for me, it is just how templates in MediaWiki work. In any case, it could be solved by having a subtemplate while still keeping everything in Wikitext. As for {{db-multiple-notice}}, is there any reason that that can't be done in the exact same way that {{db-multiple}} works, using a|raw=yes
. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 14:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)- There's (at least) 3 separate things being proposed here.
- Moving the descriptions of speedy deletion criteria from the individual templates into some central location, which I would oppose as unnecessary complications and making things harder to edit.
- Some form of code cleanup inside {{db-meta}} to separate logic from presentation, which I don't think is necessary and in any case does not require a lua module given that the logic component is currently implemented in Wikitext.
- Making {{db-multiple-notice}} not have duplicate text with every other csd notice template, which I would support but does not need a lua module (could be done using a
|raw=yes
)
- And thus no luafication is necessary. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 14:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr. Stradivarius: I agree with moving the data. The target data module is Module:Speedy deletion/config. If you want changes in the module, be bold by doing them! Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 13:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Luis150902, Pppery, and Galobtter: I don't think there is all that much code duplication in {{db-meta}} itself, but I do think that there is much room for improvement with it. The logic and the presentation are all jumbled together (all too easy to do with MediaWiki templates, unfortunately). To improve the situation I would move all the logic to Module:Speedy deletion, and keep only the presentation details at {{db-meta}}, and then expand {{db-meta}} from Module:Speedy deletion using frame:expandTemplate. That would also reduce all the fiddly string formatting that is in the Speedy deletion module at the moment - that kind of stuff is much more suited to templates. (If you do need to do it, then string.format is handy - also see this cheat sheet.) I've done something similar to this at Module:Current events monthly archive and Template:Current events monthly archive/display if you would like an example.
- I generally dislike code duplication (as you can see from my signature), but don't see any problematic code duplication here. {{db-meta}} seems just as unspecific to me as Module:Speedy deletion could be, except minus some of the boilerplate. Why doesn't someone move the categorization into {{db-meta}} to reduce duplication into one call of a template with parameters, which seems less boilerplate-y and easier to follow than the /config method that the module seems to use. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 17:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently "This module also eases porting speedy deletion to other wikis, even if they -- do not use the same set of criteria as the English Wikipedia." is one of them. I also see a lot of code duplication between the various speedy deletion templates - they seem essentially the same except for the text - reducing that would increase maintainability Pppery. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr. Stradivarius: See Wikipedia:Lua/To do: my new module is also where to implement {{db-multiple}}, therefore the config (see the notes at the top of the config module). Edits to the modules are welcome. Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 20:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
About my page
Mr. stradivarius, please, why did you delete my page? mayyung is my name. I didn't write anything about you there. so why???s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayyung (talk • contribs) 22:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Mayyung: Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry that your first experience with creating an article was a bit of a negative one. For a biography to be allowed on Wikipedia it has to pass the notability guidelines for biographies (see this short introduction for the basic idea). That means that it has to have sources, and your article didn't have any. If a biography doesn't have any sources, and if it doesn't claim that the subject has done something notable (like win a prestigious music award), it is eligible for speedy deletion. That's why your page was deleted. Also, we generally don't like people writing their own biographies, as it's difficult to be neutral when writing about yourself - see our guideline about autobiographies for more on that. And please let me know if you have any questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:London ward populations
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A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to talk to me about templates, modules, mobile and more. I appreciated the conversation and your contributions. CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC) |
- Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any other questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Module:Message box
Hi, Mr. Stradivarius! I noticed that you've contributed significantly to the Message box module. I was wondering if you'd be willing to help me adjust it a bit for another wiki? – Srdjan m (talk) 09:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Srdjan m. Sure, I might be able to help. What is it that you need doing? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'd like to update all of our xbox templates ({{ambox}}, {{ombox}}, etc.) on bs.wiki, but some of them currently use translated parameters, so, in order to maintain backwards compatibility and provide an easy way for users who don't speak English to use them, it'd be great if we could use Bosnian and English parameters. For example, here are the currently used ambox parameters and their values as well as their English equivalents. Here's the sandbox and the module's configuration subpage. I didn't list all the Bosnian parameters used in other xbox templates, because I reckon I'll get the hang of things once you add the ambox ones. :-) – Srdjan m (talk) 14:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- P.S. Let me know if you're still planning on doing this so that I know if I should ask someone else for help. :-) – Srdjan m (talk) 08:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Hi, and sorry for the late reply. I've added a translation table to the getArgs call in the sandbox with the ambox. It's an undocumented feature of Module:Arguments, but it should work. Let me know if it isn't doing what it's supposed to. Also, I created bs:Modul:Message box/sandbox (sorry, I should have read your post more closely the first time). If you could delete it for me, I'd be much obliged. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hm... that didn't do the trick, but that might be because I didn't explain it properly. Head on over to this page and check out the code that's used under "Original" and "Local" and the updated map at the top. The idea is for both to display the same thing, i.e. this. – Srdjan m (talk) 11:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Sorry, I can't seem to quite get it working properly with the translation option in Module:Arguments. I can get it working with either English parameters or Bosnian parameters, but not both. I think the proper way to do this might be to a) have another look at Module:Arguments and see if the current approach is the best way to translate parameters, b) if we need a new approach, write the code for it, along with unit tests, and c) write the documentation. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to do all of that in the near future. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Do you know anyone else who'd be able to help me with option b? – Srdjan m (talk) 09:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Probably the best thing to do is ask at Wikipedia talk:Lua. Most of the Lua coders on Wikipedia watch that talk page. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- All right. Thanks for trying. :-) – Srdjan m (talk) 09:11, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Probably the best thing to do is ask at Wikipedia talk:Lua. Most of the Lua coders on Wikipedia watch that talk page. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Do you know anyone else who'd be able to help me with option b? – Srdjan m (talk) 09:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Sorry, I can't seem to quite get it working properly with the translation option in Module:Arguments. I can get it working with either English parameters or Bosnian parameters, but not both. I think the proper way to do this might be to a) have another look at Module:Arguments and see if the current approach is the best way to translate parameters, b) if we need a new approach, write the code for it, along with unit tests, and c) write the documentation. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to do all of that in the near future. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hm... that didn't do the trick, but that might be because I didn't explain it properly. Head on over to this page and check out the code that's used under "Original" and "Local" and the updated map at the top. The idea is for both to display the same thing, i.e. this. – Srdjan m (talk) 11:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Srdjan m: Hi, and sorry for the late reply. I've added a translation table to the getArgs call in the sandbox with the ambox. It's an undocumented feature of Module:Arguments, but it should work. Let me know if it isn't doing what it's supposed to. Also, I created bs:Modul:Message box/sandbox (sorry, I should have read your post more closely the first time). If you could delete it for me, I'd be much obliged. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Break
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Goldmoney name page protection
Hi, I hope this finds you well
You have protected the GoldMoney page from a name change. [[1]] - There is a mistake in the title. The name of the company is actually Goldmoney (lower case 'm' instead of uppercase)- can you please change it? Topawh (talk) 15:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Topawh: I've moved the page for you. It looks like it has never been protected, though, so I don't know why you thought I protected it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Thank you! all the best Topawh (talk) 13:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
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IA nomination
Hello Mr. Stradivarius, I've nominated you for a temporary interface administrator access grant at Wikipedia_talk:Interface_administrators#Stop-gap_users_nominated. If you do not wish to have this foisted upon you, feel free to remove yourself from the listing. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 02:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Interface administrator
Hi Mr. Stradivarius, per Special:Diff/856641107, I have temporarily added the interface administrator user-right to your account. I'm sure the temporary part of that will change to permanent once we have a mechanism to agree it! WormTT(talk) 17:37, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you! Though I am not very active these days, this will definitely come in useful when my scripts in the MediaWiki namespace need maintaining, or for answering the occasional edit request. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:56, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
Five years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Gerda. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:59, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Expanding Module:Protection banner for non-edit protected pages without wrapper template
Using {{pp}} on a page protected without "edit" protection (e.g. pending changes, just move protection) fails to produce the appropriate template. I don't know Lua at all, but I think the issue is that line 110 of Module:Protection banner defaults to edit
when there are no args provided, whether from user or by parent wrapper template, which errors on pages that are only PC-protected or move-protected. Is there a way to grab the appropriate level in those cases? ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Dark Knight Rises
Hello. Six years ago, you indefinitely semiprotected The Dark Knight Rises, which at the time was high-profile article on a recently-released film. Might you consider lifting the protection at this time? 50.81.143.144 (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi! This is a month late in coming, but I've unprotected the page. I'll watch it for a while to see if any problems return, and if everything looks OK then the protection can stay off for good. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius, you created this module back in 2016 for Template:DYK checklist. I was wondering if you would be willing to add more checking to it.
Right now, the module will accept anything in the status field, including symbols/icons, rather than the five valid values. The obvious problem is that if an invalid value is there, no icon is generated by the template. Furthermore, we now have a bot, WugBot, which moves approved nominations to a relatively recently created "Approved" page, and in the case of those DYK checklist templates, it only moves them if the status field has a "y" in it, because that's the value that indicates a review that has passed or passed AGF.
It would help a great deal if you were to put out a red error message when the field does not have a valid value in it, much like you do when (for example) the status field is left blank. (I'm not sure what sort of checking you do in the other fields; if it's a simple matter to enforce valid values there, too, it would be worth it.)
Thanks for anything you can do to help here. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:38, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Sorry that I've been late in getting to this. I've added the functionality that you asked for to Module:DYK checklist/sandbox. You can test it out using {{DYK checklist/sandbox}}. I've made it so that you can only use the exact values of "y", "?", "maybe", "no" or "again" for the status argument. If this needs to be changed, please let me know. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:28, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Mr. Stradivarius, thanks for completing the upgraded code. I tested the sandbox version in Template:Did you know nominations/Galán (but didn't save anything to that template; it was all checked in Preview mode), and it picked up the invalid status value that was already there. I also tested various boundary conditions, and it does the right thing and throws up an error if blank, if capital letters are used, and if a part of a valid value rather than the whole thing is used. Now that they've actually added the checklist template so it can easily be copied and pasted for reviewing purposes, it's more important than ever to get that new functionality into the real template. Please let me know when the new code is live in the regular template/module; I'd like to make a post to WT:DYK so people can be notified that the proper status field values are being enforced. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: It's now live. After seeing the nomination page you linked, I also tweaked the error message that is displayed when a reviewer supplies an invalid status. Now wikitext is escaped and long strings are shortened, so you won't see images etc. in the middle of the error message. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:51, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I've just posted about the change at WT:DYK. It just occurred to me that I didn't credit you there. Should I add that this was your work at my request? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: No, no need. Anyone who wants to know who did it can always look at the module's history. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:04, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I've just posted about the change at WT:DYK. It just occurred to me that I didn't credit you there. Should I add that this was your work at my request? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: It's now live. After seeing the nomination page you linked, I also tweaked the error message that is displayed when a reviewer supplies an invalid status. Now wikitext is escaped and long strings are shortened, so you won't see images etc. in the middle of the error message. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:51, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Mr. Stradivarius, thanks for completing the upgraded code. I tested the sandbox version in Template:Did you know nominations/Galán (but didn't save anything to that template; it was all checked in Preview mode), and it picked up the invalid status value that was already there. I also tested various boundary conditions, and it does the right thing and throws up an error if blank, if capital letters are used, and if a part of a valid value rather than the whole thing is used. Now that they've actually added the checklist template so it can easily be copied and pasted for reviewing purposes, it's more important than ever to get that new functionality into the real template. Please let me know when the new code is live in the regular template/module; I'd like to make a post to WT:DYK so people can be notified that the proper status field values are being enforced. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Interface Edit Requests - Bot Table
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- Thanks for the message! Now watchlisted. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:55, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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Refund request
Could you please restore User:YBG/Living officeholders/usvp-table and User:YBG/Living officeholdders/us-p-table? Thanks! YBG (talk) 05:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- I will ask over at WP:REFUND. YBG (talk) 23:15, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I have sent you an email. Thank you, Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by PAlexWolfe (talk • contribs) 14:21, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Main
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Module:HtmlBuilder
FYI Module:HtmlBuilder was on my watchlist so I noticed that it was recently deleted. Was it kept to retain the history of your development? As I recall, the code, probably tweaked, was moved into Scribunto (mw.html) and I wondered if the module had been purposely kept and should be undeleted. Johnuniq (talk) 00:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq: I think it is quite likely that it was kept around for that reason. Whether we actually need to keep it around for licensing reasons, though, is another question. I would think that the existing header in the mw.html.lua file is enough to provide attribution, and I don't see anything in the GPLv2 that requires that the original version of the code be available. So it's probably fine to keep it deleted. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Nomination for merging of Module:Str endswith
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Nomination for merging of Module:Vandal-m
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Nomination for merging of Module:Array length
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Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.
We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.
We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.
We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.
We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.
You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
- First, sign up your group here.
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- Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
- When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
- What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
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- Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.
You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.
Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.
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User Script Award
The User Script Award | |
Just discovered SpamUserPage and used it for the first time. This script is legendary! As someone who works at UAA, I'm sure to find it incredibly useful going forward. Great work, and thanks! Enjoy this very rare award as a token of my appreciation. Best, ~Swarm~ {talk} 03:47, 21 February 2019 (UTC) |
- Thank you, and glad you find it useful! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:58, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Talk pages consultation 2019
The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in a consultation on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019. You are invited to express your views in the discussion. ~ Winged BladesGodric 05:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Interface administrator flag
Hello Mr. Stradivarius, in accordance with the inactivity policy for interface administrators your IAdmin flag has been removed due to non-use. This has no impact on your standard administrator access. Please note, this is only a procedural action, and should you need the access again you may request using the fast-track process at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard. Activity monitoring for this new user group is a newer process with special metrics, if you feel this is in error please let me know so I can investigate (and reverse the change). Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 00:03, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
I tried to add some extra information to this page but somehow it gets screwed up. It concerns the new train mode which duplicates the line name which I suggest be suppressed as is done for the Telebus bus routes. This is a copy of it
mode=train
@Mr. Stradivarius:It is good to see that this mode is now available for Metro train routes and today I have updated some train routes using this mode for example with [1] which duplicates the name of the train route. Can this duplication be suppressed as is done for the Telebus bus routes? [2]
- ^ "Lilydale Line". Public Transport Victoria.
- ^ "Mooroolbark Station - Chirnside Park (Telebus Area 2)". Public Transport Victoria.
Fleet Lists Fleet Lists (talk) 02:50, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Help with Signpost series
{{Signpost series|type=sidebar|tag=openaccess|seriestitle=Open Access|break_date=March 1 2001}}
I've tagged several pages with your script, and I've added an open access entry to Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Index#Technology, but this template remains empty. Can you help? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:51, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Why are people's homes to be removed
How would be this possible Because some people have expensive houses, would the company be able rebuild those houses and install electricity to every homestead. Is it a great idea to remove a person's homestead that is 500m from the present road? We're egger to know, it can prove you faithful if you can respond instantly . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.211.36.18 (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure why you are messaging me about this. Is this about some article I have edited in the past? Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:57, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Japan-English translation
Hello Mr. Stradivarius
I'm looking for a way to romanize this 3 web pages of N.O.M. 54 (jan 2003) about the video game The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker => [2]. Are you abble and have time to do this ? I writing the corresponding (page on Wikipedia in French, but I think this will be usefull for Wikipedia in English too.
I also asked this to Curly Turkey and Bueller 007.
Regards --Archimëa (talk) 16:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Archimëa: Sorry, I don't have time to help with translating these sites now. I wish you all the best in your efforts with the article, however. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:59, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Gadget update
From what I can gather, your User:Mr._Stradivarius/gadgets/SignpostTagger.js script could use some update in certain places
'Community view': [ 'communityview' ], 'Discussion report': [ 'discussionreport' ], 'Essay': [ 'essay' ], 'From the archives': [ 'fromthearchives' ], 'From the editors': [ 'fromtheeditors' ], 'Humour': [ 'humour' ], 'Op-Ed': [ 'opinion' ], 'Opinion': [ 'opinion' ], 'News from the WMF': [ 'newsfromthewmf' ],
those would apply to the 'TagManager class', or something. I haven't reviewed if everything on the right is correct/the most efficient thing (e.g. should it be 'fromtheeditors' or 'fromtheeditor'?), but things on the left are missing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I've moved the default tag list to the top of the script, given it some documentation, and added your suggested tags. I went with "fromtheeditor" as that was already in use, and I added "fromtheeditors" as an alias. Feel free to add more entries yourself if you need to. (Hopefully the process should be a bit easier to understand now that there are comments...) Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:51, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. As for adding those, other people's scripts pages are protected from editing. Maybe this can be circumvent by admins, but I'm not one. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I wonder if it's possible to do a batch run / mass run with your script (or possibly a modified version of it)? Like create tags en masse for all previously published Signposts using the defaults. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: Oh, of course, it's protected. That goes to show how little I've been editing recently... So you'd actually need to be an interface administrator to edit someone else's JS page now, and there are only 16 interface admins at the moment. As for batch runs, I wrote a Pywikibot script to parse Signpost articles and generate the Lua article data for them, but it assumes that there is no previous data, so it would need to be edited for this task. Also, currently the Lua files would need to be uploaded manually, as there's no BRFA for the script. It's not online anywhere, and I would need to clean up absolute paths etc. for it to be in a fit state to post online, but maybe I can take a look at it some time. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:20, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's not really a pressing need, it would just be to update old .../Humour pages and the like, so things would get keyworded/indexed properly without having to do it manually. And note that scripts don't usually need BRFAs. However there is potential for disruption, so this should at the very least be a supervised run, with some prior testing beforehand. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:24, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: Oh, of course, it's protected. That goes to show how little I've been editing recently... So you'd actually need to be an interface administrator to edit someone else's JS page now, and there are only 16 interface admins at the moment. As for batch runs, I wrote a Pywikibot script to parse Signpost articles and generate the Lua article data for them, but it assumes that there is no previous data, so it would need to be edited for this task. Also, currently the Lua files would need to be uploaded manually, as there's no BRFA for the script. It's not online anywhere, and I would need to clean up absolute paths etc. for it to be in a fit state to post online, but maybe I can take a look at it some time. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:20, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- I wonder if it's possible to do a batch run / mass run with your script (or possibly a modified version of it)? Like create tags en masse for all previously published Signposts using the defaults. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. As for adding those, other people's scripts pages are protected from editing. Maybe this can be circumvent by admins, but I'm not one. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Inquiry
In this edit you wrote "lead section". However, the discussion was about a specific issue, which is limited to the first paragraph of this very large lead section. It seems to me there was never any intention to cast the whole lead section in iron, nor does it seem to me it has been interpreted so, as edits have been made to the other paragraphs of the lead section. However, recently an editor has claimed that the restriction involves all of the lead. Can you please clarify this matter at Talk:Jerusalem#Suggested_edit_to_lead_paragraph? Debresser (talk) 21:39, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Debresser: To be honest, I don't really remember how much we talked about the entire lead versus the first paragraph, although I'm pretty sure we took it into consideration when drafting the RfC. To give you an accurate answer I would have to re-read all of the discussion I moderated, but I hope you can forgive me for not really wanting to do that right now, as there is rather a lot of material there. It's a moot point now, though, as the three-year binding period end in July 2016, so it is now possible to change all parts of the lead section, including the first paragraph. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Any changes must be made by Rfc only, according to an additional restriction. So the question is whether that includes the first paragraph only or the whole lead. By I do understand you not wanting to go into the issue again. Debresser (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Debresser: Ah, I see that the header at Talk:Jerusalem talks about an additional page-level sanction. I don't remember that, and I couldn't find it in the Arbcom motion that lead to the RfC. I guess this is something that happened after the RfC ended? Do you have a link to the page where this was enacted? I think that looking at the wording of this restriction will be important here. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- That was here. However, the discussion leading up to that restriction includes nothing that relates to whether it should be the lead paragraph or the first paragraph only, and in that regard simply continued the wording of the previous restriction you enacted. Which is why I am asking you about it here. Debresser (talk) 10:39, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Debresser: Thank you for the link. The sanction says that an RfC must occur "prior to any changes being made to the article's lead section". In my view, that clearly applies to the whole lead section, not just the first paragraph. So if we are talking about how to interpret the current sanction, then what we discussed in the RfC is irrelevant; the sanction says the whole lead, so the whole lead it is.
However, if we are talking about whether it might be a good idea to amend the sanction, then it might make sense to consider what was discussed in the RfC. I wouldn't take the mediated discussion leading to the RfC into account here; we talked about lots of things there, sure, but it was the RfC itself that had the wide community participation, so it should be the RfC itself that carries the most weight. And as you said before, in the RfC itself we only considered the first paragraph. So if you want to try and get the sanction amended to affect only the first paragraph of the lead rather than the whole thing, then that would be a good angle to start the discussion from. To get the sanction amended you have to go through the process outlined at WP:AE; there's nothing I can do about it myself. Hope this helps. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. The sanction was based on the wording of the original restriction, so although I agree that going through WP:AE is probably a good idea, the argument would be that the original restriction really was supposed to be about the first paragraph only. Debresser (talk) 11:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Debresser: Thank you for the link. The sanction says that an RfC must occur "prior to any changes being made to the article's lead section". In my view, that clearly applies to the whole lead section, not just the first paragraph. So if we are talking about how to interpret the current sanction, then what we discussed in the RfC is irrelevant; the sanction says the whole lead, so the whole lead it is.
- That was here. However, the discussion leading up to that restriction includes nothing that relates to whether it should be the lead paragraph or the first paragraph only, and in that regard simply continued the wording of the previous restriction you enacted. Which is why I am asking you about it here. Debresser (talk) 10:39, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Debresser: Ah, I see that the header at Talk:Jerusalem talks about an additional page-level sanction. I don't remember that, and I couldn't find it in the Arbcom motion that lead to the RfC. I guess this is something that happened after the RfC ended? Do you have a link to the page where this was enacted? I think that looking at the wording of this restriction will be important here. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Any changes must be made by Rfc only, according to an additional restriction. So the question is whether that includes the first paragraph only or the whole lead. By I do understand you not wanting to go into the issue again. Debresser (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Request translations
Please, if you have time, can you translate this pages from Japanese to English: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:大社駅 (Taisha Station), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:さわかぜ (護衛艦) (JDS Sawakaze), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), ja:柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), ja:花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), ja:小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), ja:毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), ja:田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:日本赤十字社医療センター (Japanese Red Cross Medical Center), ja:角田 久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:ミスター高橋 (Mister Takahashi), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:SAKI (SAKI), ja:MIZUKI (MIZUKI), ja:万喜なつみ (Natsumi Maki), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino). Thank you very much. --95.237.238.213 14:54, 24 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.237.238.213 (talk)
- I'm not very active on Wikipedia these days, so I don't think I'll have time to do these. Besides, it looks like most of them have few or no references, so they can't be translated as-is because they wouldn't satisfy the verifiability policy. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:20, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
ArbCom 2019 special circular
Administrators must secure their accounts
The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised.
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This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.
Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.
We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.
For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Japanese honorifics
Please, can you help me with this discussion? Thank you. --79.24.236.241 06:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with the other editors there. Article talk pages aren't the place for general discussions about a topic; they are for discussions about how to improve the article. You can check the talk page guidelines for details on what talk pages are normally used for. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Calendar
Module:Calendar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:08, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Find sources/links/highbeam
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Nomination for deletion of Module:Testcase rows
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Nomination for merging of Module:Old XfD multi
Module:Old XfD multi has been nominated for merging with Module:Deletion history. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Category:Potentially illegible userboxes has been nominated for discussion
Category:Potentially illegible userboxes, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 20:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Request for translation
Hello Mr. Stradivarius, I have found your account name on Wikipedia:Translators_available for Japanese-to-English translations and I was wondering if you could assist me with a translation.
I am currently expanding the article of the Japanese sport climber Futaba Ito.
It could use some human touch besides dry competition result tables. The Japanese article ja:伊藤ふたば has a biography section, which could be translated. I have tried machine translation to get the gist of it, but it does not work very well with Japanese.
I hope you can help me, but either way thanks for your time. --Hecato (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Hecato: I've translated and copy edited it - take a look and see what you think. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks a bunch! Here is a barnstar for you. I will check for mistakes, but it looks pretty solid. --Hecato (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The Translation Barnstar | ||
For an excellent translation job in the article Futaba Ito --Hecato (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC) |
- Thank you for the barnstar! And you're welcome for the translation. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Are you a Lua expert interested in teaching it?
I just read this request at Wikimedia Space and thought about you. If it doesn't fit you, maybe someone you know? 😊 Qgil-WMF (talk) 20:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Qgil-WMF: Hi Qgil, and thank you for letting me know about this! This sounds like a fantastic opportunity. However, I don't think I could bring myself to take the 30-hour plane trip; I'm trying to avoid flying too much due to its contribution to climate change, and Japan to Brazil is an exceptionally long route as there are no direct flights. It's a shame I'm not more local, otherwise I would have definitely done this. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for doing updates to system messages! It’s great! Mr. Juicyfun (Obliterator time!) 04:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC) |
- Thanks! I'm pretty sure none of those were recent, but I definitely answered a bunch of requests to change them a few years ago. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:07, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
Six years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Can you edit this template to suppress output on Wikipedia:Main Page/Day after tomorrow as well? Thank you! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 04:58, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Made the changes in the sandbox: Template:DYKbotdo/sandbox. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Coffeeandcrumbs: I've made the edit for you. For next time, consider using a protected edit request, as there's a good chance that I might not be around. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:53, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
SpamUserPage enquiry
Hello Mr. Stradivarius! Thank you for your very helpful SpamUserPage script. I have one small issue - probably operator error . Here's my common.js entries:
importScript('User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SpamUserPage.js'); // Linkback: [[User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SpamUserPage.js]] SpamUserPage = {}; // Don't remove this line! It is necessary for SpamUserPage settings. SpamUserPage.preset = "spamublock"; SpamUserPage.watchlist = "nochange";
All of the boxes get prefilled except for the Preset box itself, unlike in File:SpamUserPage_dialog.png. This makes me a little nervous so I have to spend time checking that the entries are correct.
Have I got a problem with my settings?
If you reply, please ping me. Thanks again! --kingboyk (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Kingboyk: I think this is a bug, but not one that affects the tool's output. The preset field should show the proper name for the preset that you set in your settings, but the deletion/block/notification fields seem to be populated correctly, and that is what counts when the tool does its work. I'll have a look into this to see if I can fix the preset behaviour. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:28, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Technical Barnstar | |
It just occurred to me that I use your SUPG tool many times a day - it's probably the most used wiki-gadget I have after Twinkle - and I don't think I've ever said thank you to you for creating it it, or told you how useful it is. Let me remedy that: thank you for writing this script; it is extremely handy! Yunshui 雲水 12:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC) |
- @Yunshui: Thanks! Glad it is proving to be useful. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:29, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Citing Public Records (Fletcher Tax Lien)
Hi Mr._Stradivarius (cool name),
I saw that you reverted my edit to Buddy Fletcher, specifically regarding a IRS federal tax lien, due to the source that I provided wasn't considered credible (a non-notable website).
The tax lien was recorded and can be searched and viewed for free on New York City's Automated City Register Information System (ACRIS). The less credible website I used as a reference describes how to locate the lien using the official website in order to verify it.
How do you recommend I cite this document? SuburbanEconomist (talk) 20:32, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- @SuburbanEconomist: You shouldn't cite the tax lien document itself, as that would be interpreting a primary source, and hence original research. You should instead cite a reliable third-party source that covers the tax lien. If no such source exists, then it doesn't belong in the article. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:12, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Also, make sure you read Wikipedia:Biographies of living people, as articles about living people are held to higher standards than other articles. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Great tips, thank you! SuburbanEconomist (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
East Asian and Vietnamese regnal years
I wanted to suggest adding the regnal years of Chinese and Vietnamese Emperors to pages like "1890" which is already done at the Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia, for example at the page "w:zh:1890年" it reads "清光緒十六年;日本明治二十三年;越南成泰二年" , now the Japanese date is already on the English Wikipedia, but the Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese regnal years ain't. Another example would be "w:zh:1895年" which depicts it as "乙未年(羊年);清光緒二十一年;台灣民主國永清元年;韓國開國五百零四年;日本明治二十八年;越南成泰七年" Zanhe told me that you added quite some data to the current template on the English Wikipedia, so would it be possible to add Oriental Nianhao to here too?
Note that I did not check where the Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia took its data from and that certain nianhao expire as the Manchu Qing Dynasty was abolished in 1911, the Korean Empire was annexed in 1910, and the Nguyễn dynasty ended in 1945, so if it's possible the template should no longer depict these nianhao after these dates. --Donald Trung (talk) 10:05, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Zanhe found out that Template:Year in various calendars uses the Lua module Module:Year in various calendars, which loads Module:Japanese calendar, which in turns loads the calendar data from Module:Japanese calendar/data. This whole system can be replicated for Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese era names. Possibly this system already exists at the Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia. --Donald Trung (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:NAMESPACEID
Module:NAMESPACEID has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Editor's spelling errors
Dear editors please spell out a name correctly couz when we read your articles pronounced is wrong please fix yr shit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.113.58.146 (talk) 17:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hi there. Is this about a particular article? If you could paste a link to it and give a short description of what spelling was wrong that would be helpful. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:13, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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editToken
Hello Mr. Stradivarius,
Your script User:Mr. Stradivarius/DRN.js is no longer functional because it attempts to get an editToken
from mw.user.tokens
. The script should instead get a csrfToken
. editToken
s were removed from mw.user.tokens
on October 3, 2019 at Phabricator during this edit as they were redundant to csrfToken
s.– BrandonXLF (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for letting me know! That was just a sandbox script that no-one was using (the original is at MediaWiki:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js), so I deleted it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Module:Color contrast/colors
Hey, I was looking over the module you created (Module:Color contrast/colors) and was wondering if you could tell me what do the numbers represent? For example, what is the value "0.16042199953026" for crimson? --Gonnym (talk) 15:03, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: That's the relative luminance of the colour. White is the highest, at 1, and black is the lowest, at 0. I wasn't the author of Module:Color contrast, by the way - Frietjes did the hard work, and all I did was a small refactoring. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I looked at the first edit and didn't follow the chain to the parent module as I should have. Thanks again :) --Gonnym (talk) 14:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Random/testcases
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Nomination for deletion of Module:Message box
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Semi-protection request
Hey, Strad, I've been trying to be the neutral party/adult in the room at Segun Adebutu over a controversy section which his supporters continue to try to delete. The article was semi'ed for a while, which helped, but they came right back once the protection ended. Could we get a longish semi there, say 6 months or so? Best regards and hope you're doing well, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- @TransporterMan: Hi, long time no chat! I see that semi-protection has already been applied in my absence - sorry I didn't get round to it earlier. I still do check Wikipedia, but my response time will be a lot slower than it was previously. If you see anything else that looks like a good fit for a Japanese-speaking programmer/dispute resolver, though, my talk page is always open. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:39, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Portal/config
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Translation
Hi. I'm writing to see if you're available to translate the article Hiroshi Yoshimura.DMT biscuit (talk) 11:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- @DMT biscuit: The Japanese article doesn't seem to be that great quality. There are no inline citations, and there's not much prose - most of it is just a list of his works. To be honest, the English article looks in better shape than the Japanese article right now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the reply,DMT biscuit (talk) 14:23, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Proposed changes to MonthlyArchive - you may be interested
Hi there, I saw your previous comments on the MonthlyArchive template talk page about the issues which the template has, and I wanted to let you know I've proposed some changes to the template which would hopefully address them. However, they are breaking changes for archiving bots, and would require some (minor) modifications to the bots so that they would be compatible.
When you have a moment, it'd be fantastic if you could take a look at my proposal and let me know your thoughts.
All the best, Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 13:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
"Wayne Chiang" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Nomination for merging of Module:Shortcut
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"Englische Sprache" listed at Redirects for discussion
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There is no Cabal! (Long live the Cabal!)
I've done gone and done it. I've raised the possibility of reopening MEDCAB. See here. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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Thirty Seconds to Mars
Hi, in 2012 you protected Thirty Seconds to Mars indefinitely. Are you opposed to now unprotecting it? The last 50 edits go back to 2018 so the band is definitely not as popular as it was. Anarchyte (talk • work) 08:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Anarchyte: I've unprotected the page - let's see how it goes. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Mesh2
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You remove protection more often than you apply it. Could you do the same for this article, which has been protected for eight years? 2A00:23C6:2403:E900:C082:245:B6E4:3992 (talk) 10:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for asking. I took a look at it, and it's still seeing some recent vandalism even with the semi-protection, so on balance I think unprotection is probably a bad idea. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:23, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
- IP 2A00:23C6:2403:E900:C082:245:B6E4:3992 is a banned user. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:34, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Italicization of titles which are botanical infrageneric names
By default, {{Automatic taxobox}}
adds {{Italic title}}
when it detects that the taxobox has as its target a taxon with a rank of genus or below. This works fine, except when the title is the name of a botanical taxon which has to have a "connecting term", like Salvia subg. Perovskia or Scilla sect. Chionodoxa, in which the connecting term must not be italicized. {{Taxon italics}}
, which uses Module:TaxonItalics, handles these cases:
{{taxon italics|Salvia subg. Perovskia}}
→ Salvia subg. Perovskia{{taxon italics|Scilla sect. Chionodoxa}}
→ Scilla sect. Chionodoxa
So the taxobox itself italicizes correctly, since it uses Module:TaxonItalics. However, to make the article title display correctly in these cases, editors must both
- use
DISPLAYTITLE:
- turn off the addition of
{{Italic title}}
by putting|italic_title=no
in the taxobox.
This regularly catches even experienced editors (and I don't always remember myself, even though I wrote the module underlying {{Automatic taxobox}}
).
I think it's probably not worth trying to fix this in Module:Italic title for the few articles affected – the code is complex enough already (I find your use of the OO approach in Lua difficult to follow, even though I've taught Java in the past and still program in it from time to time). However, I thought I would mention it, as an example came up today. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:57, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Peter coxhead: What change to Module:Italic title do you think would be of benefit here? From your description it seems like this could be solved by using
DISPLAYTITLE:
directly inside Module:Automated taxobox, as you already have the correct italicization from Module:TaxonItalics. But maybe there is something I'm missing here. As for Module:Italic title's coding style, these days I probably wouldn't use OOP - a few functions would suffice. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:14, 2 August 2020 (UTC)- Yes, on reflection that's the way to go. The taxobox title (the name parameter) is italicized by Module:TaxonItalics, so there's no need to use
{{Italic title}}
at all – just use DISPLAYTITLE with the value used by default for the taxobox title. Another idea suggested to me was to useItalicTitle._main({ string =... })
, passing the already italicized value. So, no need to consider any changes to the code you wrote. Thanks for the suggestion. (When I converted the automated taxobox system to Lua, I was deliberately conservative, and left alone those bits that didn't involve recursive processing of taxonomy templates. That's probably why I didn't think of handling title italicization myself. But it's obvious once pointed out!) Peter coxhead (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, on reflection that's the way to go. The taxobox title (the name parameter) is italicized by Module:TaxonItalics, so there's no need to use
Precious anniversary
Seven years! |
---|
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Gerda! Hope you are doing well. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Technical Barnstar | |
For legendary contributions to modules, templates, and all things technical. Your efforts have been the foundation for so many features that we all take for granted. Thank you for your invaluable work! Enterprisey (talk!) 09:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you! You are far too kind. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello there. I was scavenging for some (very) simple examples of infoboxes that uses Capiunto. And in doing so, noticed your name more than a couple of times. Would you mind helping me with some examples please, if possible? It doesn't have to be on enwiki. I'm not an expert on Lua, so I am hoping to look at some live examples to learn how this extension could be used on various Wikimedia and external wikis. Cheers, Rehman 12:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help here. While I have been involved with quite a few of enwiki's infoboxes, none of them have used Capiunto, and a search I performed just now suggests that enwiki doesn't have any modules using Capiunto at all. I'm not aware offhand of other wikis that have modules that use Capiunto, but I think Wikimedia devs have access to a search tool that might help. Also, if you haven't asked him already, perhaps User:Hoo man, the Capiunto author, may know of some? Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply, and for pinging User:Hoo man. :) Rehman 13:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: You're not going to find any Capiunto infoboxes on this wiki, or on any production WMF wiki for that matter, since the Capiunto extension is only enabled on testwiki:, testwikidata:, test2wiki:, https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/, and the beta cluster wikis (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/). Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:48, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Jackmcbarn, that's a pity. I'm struggling to find a live example to figure out how Capiunto works, in order to (at least) trial on an external wiki. As someone who is quite familiar with infobox templates (but with minimal Lua experience), I simply cannot figure out how this works (i.e. where to set headers/data/label and how to assign them from the article). I believe this could probably be a reason why Capiunto isn't used much (i.e. no working examples for the non-Lua folks)... Would you, or Stradivarius, or anyone else reading, be willing to create a very simple infobox in one of the test wikis, and create a dummy article using that infobox please? Rehman 04:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: Sure, I can make a simple example for you. Hold on a bit... — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: Actually, I see Jackmcbarn is making one at testwiki right now, so I'll let him finish. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:33, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: I've expanded Jackmcbarn's example to show how it might be used from articles. The Lua module is located at testwiki:Module:CapiuntoTest, the template invoking it is at testwiki:Template:CapiuntoTest, and there is an example of the template being called at testwiki:CapiuntoTest. Let me know if there's anything in those pages you'd like clarification on. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:58, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Mr. Stradivarius and Jackmcbarn. Exactly what I wanted. Appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with this. Best wishes, Rehman 11:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for finishing that up for me. I had just copied over the example because I wanted to start doing what you did, and then I got distracted and by the time I was back to actually start, you were done. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:29, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Mr. Stradivarius and Jackmcbarn. Exactly what I wanted. Appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with this. Best wishes, Rehman 11:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: I've expanded Jackmcbarn's example to show how it might be used from articles. The Lua module is located at testwiki:Module:CapiuntoTest, the template invoking it is at testwiki:Template:CapiuntoTest, and there is an example of the template being called at testwiki:CapiuntoTest. Let me know if there's anything in those pages you'd like clarification on. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:58, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Jackmcbarn, that's a pity. I'm struggling to find a live example to figure out how Capiunto works, in order to (at least) trial on an external wiki. As someone who is quite familiar with infobox templates (but with minimal Lua experience), I simply cannot figure out how this works (i.e. where to set headers/data/label and how to assign them from the article). I believe this could probably be a reason why Capiunto isn't used much (i.e. no working examples for the non-Lua folks)... Would you, or Stradivarius, or anyone else reading, be willing to create a very simple infobox in one of the test wikis, and create a dummy article using that infobox please? Rehman 04:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Rehman: You're not going to find any Capiunto infoboxes on this wiki, or on any production WMF wiki for that matter, since the Capiunto extension is only enabled on testwiki:, testwikidata:, test2wiki:, https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/, and the beta cluster wikis (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/). Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:48, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply, and for pinging User:Hoo man. :) Rehman 13:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Help at CopperheadOS (and GrapheneOS)
Hi Mr._Stradivarius, I can't deal with Pitchcurve by myself. Could you possibly help? If not, no biggie. I can wait for Newslinger or let it slide. -- Yae4 (talk) 00:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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Unprotection or pending changes protection of Bad Girls Club (season 5)
Would it be possible for you to unprotect or switch the protection level on this page to pending changes? It's been very infrequently edited in the past few years and a downgrade would probably be appropriate (you semi-protected the page indefinitely back in 2012). Chess (talk) (please use {{ping|Chess}}
on reply) 02:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Chess: I'm not so sure about this; all the other season articles that I checked are semi-protected, and I'm seeing lots of sockpuppet activity, mostly around 2016 but some as recently as May this year. See: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The fashionable baby/Archive. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:04, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Lang-ka
Greetings Mr Stradivarius! can you please take a look at Template talk:Lang-ka? I've left you a message there :) Regards. An emperor /// Ave 18:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:User talk disclaimer
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Nomination for deletion of Module:Kana
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Regarding United Aviation Services
Hi Mr. Stradivarius, i created a Wikipedia page (United Aviation Services) a few days back. User:1292simon tried to delete the article by speedy tag and You declined this speedy. After this 1292simon moved the article into the draft. He claims COI without any solid evidences. I have created the article from neutral point of viw. And i do not have any connection with the company or its employee. Please look in to this and help. XpediaF1 (talk) 06:11, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- I have taken a look at the sources, and it does not look like the sourcing is strong enough yet to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). If there are better references out there, then I suggest adding them to the article and then submitting the draft for review. If there aren't better references available, then it is probably too soon for the company to have a Wikipedia article. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- (Notifying XpediaF1) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:09, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius, I made a minor change to this module's main routine: the "hookcited" parameter was listed twice, while "hookinterest" wasn't listed at all, so I listed them once each, along with the bulk of the other parameters. (I'm not entirely sure why "status" or "qpq" aren't included in the list, but assume you had your reasons.) If there is a problem with my change, please correct or revert—and be sure to let me know why, so I don't make a similar problematic edit in future. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Thanks for the fix. I had a quick look, and the original template code that I converted had the following check:
{{#if:{{{newness|}}}{{{length|}}}{{{eligibilityother|}}}{{{sourced|}}}{{{neutral|}}}{{{plagarismfree|{{{plagiarismfree|}}}}}}{{{policyother|}}}{{{hookcited|}}}{{{hookother|}}}{{{hookcited|}}}{{{picfree|}}}{{{picused|}}}{{{picclear|}}}| <!-- Template body goes here --> |Review not started}}
- In this check there is also no "hookinterest" parameter, while the "hookcited" parameter is included twice. So it looks like I just attempted to convert the template to Lua with bug-for-bug compatibility. Feel free to add other parameters to the check in the module if it looks like they would be useful. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Disable rollback links in watchlist and recent changes
Hello. If you could please confirm if I'm doing this correctly.
I recently added a script at User:DB1729/common.css to hide the rollback buttons in my watchlist. (I had an accidental revert a few days ago)
I wish to do the same thing for Special:RecentChanges.
Found my way to the page User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback, and from what I gather, It looks like I need to paste the following: ,
importScript('User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback.js'); // Linkback: [[User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback.js]]
and
ConfirmRollback = {
recentchanges: "hide"
}
into User:DB1729/common.js.
Is this correct? Will the other code I currently have installed at User:DB1729/common.css cause any problems? Just wanting to be sure.
Thanks. --DB1729 (talk) 02:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- @DB1729: If you just want to disable rollback links on the watchlist and on recent changes, and don't need any other features like confirmation popup dialogs, you can edit your common.css to be the following:
.mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link,
.mw-special-Recentchanges .mw-rollback-link{
display: none;
}
- If you want confirmation popup dialogs when you click a rollback link, or if you want different behaviours on desktop and mobile for rollback links, then my script should come in handy. If you want to use the script, let me know how you would like it set up, and I can help you with the settings. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ahh of course. That did it. Disabling on those two is all I wanted for now. Thank you for the help! DB1729 (talk) 10:51, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Fix
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Article history
There's no reason for this removal. It's fine to bundle this in the module, but until it is, there's no reason why missing/malformed DYK detection shouldn't be in the template. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:41, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I disagree - if there wasn't a reason for its removal, I wouldn't have removed it. There are three reasons, actually. 1) There is already a system in the module for adding categories like this; adding category code to the template as well complicates things unnecessarily. 2) Adding code to the template will make it tempting for others to do so as well, meaning cruft is likely to accumulate over time that will be increasingly hard to dismantle. 3) Your code doesn't work for parameters like
|dyk1entry=
,|dyk2entry=
, etc., whereas these are automatically handled by the module. Also, I think we both need to take another look at WP:TPEDISPUTE; going by that policy, my initial revert was not ideal, as I obviously didn't demonstrate the rationale for my revert very well. Your further revert was an even bigger no-no, as the policy says that "the edit ... must not be reinstated ... without clear discussion leading to a consensus decision". I don't see a consensus for your change anywhere yet. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)- I thought of another reason. The
{{{bypass-error}}}
parameter sounds like it applies to the whole template, whereas it actually only applies to the DYK entries. I hope you haven't used it very much, because we're going to have to change it. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)- Technical cuteness isn't a valid reason for a revert. The code was functional, was tested, and worked. That it could have been improved was no reason for outright removal. As for
|bypass-error=
, it's used about 40 times or so. I see you partially implemented things into a new module, so that's good at least. However, from the comments you made in the module, you are using a 'if it matches a pattern, it's valid', when the test should be closer to 'it must match both an initial pattern and an ending pattern'. But it's LUA, so I can't really follow what the actual logic is. There might also be extra brackets in the regex that shouldn't be there, but again LUA, so I can't tell for sure. Also there's no way to bypass error checking. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:10, 25 October 2020 (UTC)- @Headbomb: If you don't understand what goes into maintaining a large module like Module:Article history, maybe you should ask on the talk page before you touch it? I have moved the DYK checks into Module:Article history/config - please don't add anything else to the template. The error suppression parameter is now
|dykignoreerror=
instead of|bypass-error=
, though that can be something else if you want, as long as it starts with "dyk". And next time, please ask instead of re-reverting, otherwise I shall bring the matter up on WP:ANI. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)- Nothing broke, and the code worked. That it wasn't cute is not an issue. And take your ANI threats elsewhere. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:56, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I would count those 40 transclusions with bad parameter names as something that broke. And the code didn't work for all parameters, as I mentioned above. Keeping the code "cute" (i.e. maintainable) is absolutely an issue, whether you agree or not. And the ANI thing? I am just making clear what I will do if this happens again, just so that you are quite clear that this is not an OK thing to do. Please don't do it again. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- You're the one that changed the parameter name and broke things. And this is an extremely and phenomenally OK thing to do. Template improvements are not contingent on code cuteness. If you want to migrate them to LUA, you certainly can, but there is no requirement, technical or otherwise, that templates be coded in LUA. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I think you need to re-read Wikipedia:Template editor. It is quite clear that potentially controversial edits should only be made after consensus is formed. This is a fundamental difference from the way WP:BOLD applies to articles. If you had tried to seek consensus before your edit, you may have realised that the parameter name that you chose was not compatible with the way that the module was structured. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- These were not controversial edits in the least, and were fully functional. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: For your original edits, sure, you might not have realised that anyone would object to them. I don't see much of a problem with that. The problem is that you re-reverted my revert. If an edit to a protected template is reverted, then it is pretty much the definition of a controversial edit, as you can prove that someone objects to it. That means that you reinstated a demonstrably controversial edit to a protected template, without consensus, which is a violation of WP:TPEDISPUTE. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- These were not controversial edits in the least, and were fully functional. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I think you need to re-read Wikipedia:Template editor. It is quite clear that potentially controversial edits should only be made after consensus is formed. This is a fundamental difference from the way WP:BOLD applies to articles. If you had tried to seek consensus before your edit, you may have realised that the parameter name that you chose was not compatible with the way that the module was structured. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- You're the one that changed the parameter name and broke things. And this is an extremely and phenomenally OK thing to do. Template improvements are not contingent on code cuteness. If you want to migrate them to LUA, you certainly can, but there is no requirement, technical or otherwise, that templates be coded in LUA. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I would count those 40 transclusions with bad parameter names as something that broke. And the code didn't work for all parameters, as I mentioned above. Keeping the code "cute" (i.e. maintainable) is absolutely an issue, whether you agree or not. And the ANI thing? I am just making clear what I will do if this happens again, just so that you are quite clear that this is not an OK thing to do. Please don't do it again. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Nothing broke, and the code worked. That it wasn't cute is not an issue. And take your ANI threats elsewhere. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:56, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: If you don't understand what goes into maintaining a large module like Module:Article history, maybe you should ask on the talk page before you touch it? I have moved the DYK checks into Module:Article history/config - please don't add anything else to the template. The error suppression parameter is now
- Technical cuteness isn't a valid reason for a revert. The code was functional, was tested, and worked. That it could have been improved was no reason for outright removal. As for
- I thought of another reason. The
I think Headbomb's first edit was fine, as there was no reason to suppose it would be controversial. But obviously, once that edit had been reverted, it should have been discussed. Edit warring on a protected template is not good at all. Please consider yourself trouted Headbomb. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Requesting a translation
Hi. Given you are currently active and available as a translator on Wikipedia:Translators available, I'm here to request translation of ja:昭和49年台風第8号 to Typhoon Gilda (1974). I have talked about this to Nihonjoe, but unfortunately he's busy. Typhoon No. 8 appears to be a notable typhoon in Japan (which is why that article is pretty long and that article was created on 2007!), and the size of that article is too much for me to handle given that I'm currently in college. As such I'm here to request your translation. Thank you, SMB99thx my edits 05:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Changing username archives
Module:Changing username archives has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Script errors
I don't know why but this change removed Talk:Girl on the Third Floor from Category:Pages with script errors. if this was not the correct fix, please modify. thank you! Frietjes (talk) 21:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- on a related note, not sure if
{{#invoke:Check DYK hook|isValidHook|1=... that director and screenwriter Travis Stevens paused renovations on his production company's house to film '''''[[Girl on the Third Floor]]'''''{{-?}}}}
should be invalid, but changing the{{-?}}
to a?
makes it valid? see examples currently in "User talk:Frietjes/sandbox". Frietjes (talk) 21:13, 26 November 2020 (UTC)- @Frietjes: The problem was that Template:DYK talk wasn't checking for parameters containing equals signs when calling Module:Check DYK hook. The output of {{-?}} has an equals sign in it, so everything before it was being interpreted as a parameter name. I just made this edit to fix it. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:20, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Find sources notice
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Translation of the Wikipedia Page of 縄田かのん
Dear Mr. Stradivarius
I was wondering if it would be possible to translate the wikipedia page of the actress Canon Nawata who will be appearing alongside Nicolas Cage in Prisoners of the Ghostland next year. The Japanese page is [[3]]
Thanks in advance and best regards,
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattyh10 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)