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Steve Li Kwai-Wah moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Steve Li Kwai-Wah, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deng Zhonghua moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Deng Zhonghua, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cai Dafeng (March 21)

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Robert McClenon (talk) 18:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Deng Zhonghua has been accepted

Deng Zhonghua, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Steve Li Kwai-Wah (July 2)

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This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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WP:NOTNEWS Collection of news. To qualify as a BLP, write a biography, not a summary of news.

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– robertsky (talk) 07:43, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2021

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Following up the above warning, please see Talk:Chen_Linong#Edit_warring. Please use the next seven days to discuss the matter. Daniel (talk) 00:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Cai Dafeng

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I did leave an edit summary, it clearly states "Career: 2021 LegCo" . MowerBreeze (talk) 02:57, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Kowloon Reservoir

I just followed Citobun's lead in City University, Sham Shui Po and Kowloon City Plaza. Trace of imperialism should all be annihilated from our province. 210.6.10.94 (talk) 12:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lots still exist in Hong Kong, and will continue to exist for another 900+ years. So deleting the lot numbers off of Wikipedia won't get rid of them in real life. You can do any land registry search and see for yourself. Tagging User:Citobun as well MowerBreeze (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, these are all the same person: 210.6.10.69 , 210.6.10.94 , 210.6.10.116 , 210.6.10.76 MowerBreeze (talk) 13:21, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This series of IPs is WP:HKGW. They are taking the opposite stance that they did previously in order to, I dunno, drum up support for their original stance. You can tell by the fact that they are fixating on the same pages and also targeting me personally. Best approach is to revert and ignore the troll. Citobun (talk) 13:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick response. Also saw that you did a lot of work to replace citations I made with DimSumDaily- I've stopped using that source after I saw your edits. MowerBreeze (talk) 13:36, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MowerBreeze. Didn't want to step on your toes there as you are doing a great job keeping HK articles abreast of current events. But I found a lot of content from that source is copied from elsewhere. Best regards, Citobun (talk) 13:55, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar

Hi MowerBreeze,

Thank you for your recent comments on my edit on the article "InvestHK". I am new to Wikipedia and especially appreciate suggestions on personal improvement when editing. Looking forward to working with you on further articles in the future.

Carter00000 (talk) 16:52, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you are new to Wikipedia, why do you have so many deletions and claim WP: MINORASPECT ? For example, instead of deleting referenced content that was significant enough to be in the news, perhaps try adding content. MowerBreeze (talk) 04:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag of the Republic of China

The other flags located in the historical flags section of the page Flag of the Republic of China are not relevant to the actual flag of the Republic of China and for that reason I feel it is appropriate to remove them as they do not contribute to a reader's actual understanding of the flag (for example, what does the Manchukuo flag have to do with ROC? There is already the pages List of Chinese flags and List of Taiwanese flags for these flags). Unless you can provide a reason for keeping these flags in the page, they should not be added back. 129.97.125.3 (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you remove the text "as a symbol of resistance" from the picture of the flag in HK along with your edit? It's clearly sourced in the article and you should re-add it. MowerBreeze (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you are right, that is mentioned in the source article. I will re-add it. 129.97.125.3 (talk) 20:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hong Kong Land Lot No.

Thank you for your update in lot no. of Southsky in Aberdeen. How do you find the information so quickly? Ricky36 (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the sales brochures for most of the apartment buildings in HK, they will list the lot number(s), as well as the expiration. Pretty much all of the sales brochures follow the same format (floor plans, deed of mutual covenant, lot expiration, etc) MowerBreeze (talk) 12:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Since you are the one deleting referenced content, it should be you who starts a talk section MowerBreeze (talk) 14:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]