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Speedy deletion nomination of Greater Talent Network
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A tag has been placed on Greater Talent Network, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising, 
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Speedy deletion nomination of Greater Talent Network
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A tag has been placed on Greater Talent Network, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:51, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
September 2013
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Hello, LaurenLaFranca. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.
All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.
If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:
- Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
- Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
- Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
- Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.
Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.
For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 04:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Your request for undeletion
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that a response has been made at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion regarding a submission you made. The thread is Greater_Talent_Network. JohnCD (talk) 11:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi John, is there anyway you can provide me at least with the wikipedia code of my page so I can work off that and have someone unaffiliated fix it accordingly? LaurenLaFranca (talk) 13:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Greater Talent Network requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.greatertalent.com/about-us/an-introduction/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website or image but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. bonadea contributions talk 16:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
- Comment to the above - I'm sorry that your efforts keep being met with deletion notices, but the copyright thing is taken very seriously by Wikipedia. We can't copy and paste copyrighted text, or use close paraphrasing of copyrighted text, anywhere on Wikipedia including Articles for Creation pages. Since there are only a couple of sentences (at the most) in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Greater Talent Network that aren't copied and pasted or close paraphrases, I tagged the whole page for deletion. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 16:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Please do not restore the copyright violations again. Persistent copyright violators will be blocked from editing. --bonadea contributions talk 20:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Copyright concerns
[edit]Please read the information above, which explains what you need to do to donate copyrighted material to Wikipedia (the relevant link is here). However, even if you do donate the text on greatertalent.com, the Wikipedia page you created contains copyrighted material from at least three different sources: in addition to the copyrighted text from greatertalent.com there is also text copied from nysun.com and thehill.com.
Furthermore, the text on greatertalent.com (as well as the other sources, to some extent) is not suitable for an encyclopedia article, as explained in some detail by JohnCD, here, so there is double reason not to use it. As John suggested, please start from scratch, without trying to rewrite existing text. Use the sources for information, not for phrasing. You may also want to wait for John to give you input here on your user page, since he promised to do that within a couple of days. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 20:39, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Advice
[edit]Copyright: the reason why saying "the content there was CREATED by us and we are legally allowed to repost it" is not enough is that anything published in WIkipedia is released under the CC-BY-SA license, which means that any reader may copy, modify and re-use it for any purpose including commercial. It is essential that the actual copyright holder understands and agrees to this, and therefore a formal copyright release is required, as explained at WP:Donating copyrighted materials.
But it is very seldom worth doing that, because material written for other purposes like a company website almost always has a promotional tone unsuitable for an encyclopedia article. It is unfortunate that, because of a wish not to put new contributors off by making them read a lot of warnings, Wikipedia does not make clear at sign-up time that:
- Wikipedia is not a place for people or organizations to tell the world about themselves.
It is quite unlike the Myspace/Facebook sort of "notice-board" site where people put up "Our page". One important difference is that if a GTN page is accepted, other people can and will edit it, and you will not be able to insist on your preferred version. If you want a GTN page that you can control, Wikipedia is not the place for it. I have this conversation so often that I have written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard to explain some of the background.
You speak of having "someone unaffiliated fix it", but anyone doing it at your instruction would still, from our point of view, have a conflict of interest, and should still start by reading the WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and making a draft for submission at Articles for Creation. In fact, seven successive deletions of Greater Talent Network represent enough wasted time that I have salted the title - protected it against creation. If a draft article is accepted at Articles for Creation, any administrator can undo that protection, it does not have to be me.
If you want to proceed (or have someone else proceed), the important thing is that you make a strong effort to understand that you are not writing for GTN. You are writing for Wikipedia about GTN, from outside. Experience shows that people in the marketing trade find this almost impossible, but it is essential if an article is to be accepted. Avoid "peacock terms" - in fact, the fewer adjectives the better. The reader should have no idea whether the author thinks GTN is good, bad or indifferent, because the article should contain no opinions, only plain facts, neutrally stated and referenced to reliable sources. See WP:Notability (summary) for the sort of external references you will need. Do not go on about the company's mission, aims etc, because the article is not the company talking: stick to what it actually has achieved. Be clear that you are not writing for a potential client, but for a general encyclopedia reader. I would advise against listing a hundred of your speakers - that looks like trying too hard. The article can provide a link to your website, so that sort of extra detail is available a click away for anyone interested.
I will email the text of your deleted article, but I advise you to tear it up and start from a clean sheet.
Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:27, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
No spamming, please
[edit]By the way, this sort of thing is considered spamming, will be deleted, and if repeated after warning will lead to a block. JohnCD (talk) 20:32, 28 September 2013 (UTC)