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I'm trying to figure out what happened to my revision. I published (a draft) but was still working on it, I spent quite a bit of time adding in sources and a great deal more information which is all missing now. Is there a way to get that version back?! I don't see it in the version history. If you moved it while I was working on it, is there a place where the version went that I saved? eximo (talk) 06:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve Operation Dark Huntor

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Thank you for creating Operation Dark Huntor.

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Aviram,

Not sure what you are talking about as far as "non-free sources" the 2 primary sources cited are 2 US federal government press releases, which are both free and available for public use. I'm working on obtaining other sources for an other wise "top secret" and "sensitive materials' government operation, so primary sources are going to be scarce.

I'm going to remove the tag, if you have an explanation for the tag, feel free to write me back and please add to the talk page of the main page so other people can benefit from this discussion. eximo (talk) 22:02, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Operation Dark Huntor. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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I did a Move page for Operation Blacklist -> Operation Blackwrist. A trial transcript had the word mis-transcribed.

However, Operation Dark Huntor was created de-novo. There is a section I copied and pasted between two government operations that had identical information, but I'm not sure how any of what was copied would have created an issue, I don't think there was any active texts. Can you identify the section that I created an issue so I can inspect it? eximo (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm reviewing my edits, I did copy the page deficiencies in the TALK page from Operation Blackwrist into the TALK page of Operation Dark Huntor, however, I don't see any issues since they both have the same deficiencies. Is that what you were referring to? eximo (talk) 04:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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asilvering (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Asilvering:,

This "secret" committee doesn't have a landing page anywhere on the internet. There isn't a news organization that has tackled it yet, and there isn't a watch dog organization that has taken it to task or under-observation. The only knowledge of it's existence are in court documents. This single committee is responsible for ALL boiler plate affidavits across the United States by the FBI or the HSI to get search warrants of peoples homes and other property. This article rates as High or probably TOP [important] on the importance scale for Wiki articles in the Wikiproject law enforcement and wiki project law.

If you are going to turn down my draft, I would appreciate you not just use a boilerplate to discount it, as to the 4 qualities believed to be deficient. I request that you discuss it's deficiencies on the talk page as to the four subjects:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject

for reliability and at least low quality depth I think that a federal prosecutor describing the committee and how it works in a court document sufficient.

as for the sources being primary or secondary, that is always an issue that receives a lower bar for any information related to government operations where the government has routinely attempted to keep the information secret. This committee, it's members, and their specific responsibilities, powers, etc. are all at this time not disclosed, FOIAable nor able to obtained by inspection or observation.

I respectfully ask that you reconsider, or in the alternative, provide a detailed explanation of why you declined to allow the page's creation as well as what you further expect to be done before the page can be created.eximo (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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@DiannaaI very much appreciate that you are taking the time to care, to message me, and to help improve wikipedia. Your message is really non specific and not enough for me to ascertain what content you are suggesting nor what deficiency there is in citing it. I have worked diligently to provide reference sources to each and every fact stated. As you can tell, in the past week I've nearly remade the entire article from whole cloth, in addition to Operation Lobos 1. If you have suggestions, I'm very much open to them so that the article can achieve and enjoy a lofty standing. eximo (talk) 15:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

What I did is I noticed that the citation https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ned.62281/gov.uscourts.ned.62281.50.0.pdf is in the public domain, so I added a template {{source-attribution}} as part of the citation so that the reader is made aware that the prose was copied from there, and not written by a Wikipedian. I added a reference notation after each segment of the article that was copied from that source. Check my edit. — Diannaa (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Source problems at List of suspects in Operation Torpedo

Please read WP:BLPPRIMARY, particularly where it says Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. You cannot use those sources that you've added. Schazjmd (talk) 20:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

In fact, you should remove every name on that page that does not have a secondary reliable source. Schazjmd (talk) 20:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

@SchazjmdSchazjmd, I'm not sure that the WP:BLPPRIMARY is indicating that you can't use court documents as a primary source for things the court system has done to a person, or issued, such as a judgement or arrest or other event. There is a vast amount of information that is generated in court documents which are unacceptable to use as a primary source about a person, but that is different that describing the judiciary procedures. An court record about the arrest of a person is certainly adequate to create a reference to the arrest of the person for example, as is a judgement, appeal, release, and statistics about the case. These aren't really facts about the person, as much as they are facts about the operation and the prosecution that followed.

see Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons/Archive 29 for discussion on the topic

Therefore, I firmly disagree with your interpretation of the WP:BLPPRIMARY, but do think that the WP:BLPPRIMARY needs to be updated for clarity for such situations as this. eximo (talk) 20:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion at BLPN to see what the consensus is on this interpretation (link). Schazjmd (talk) 20:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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@Schazjmd

The rules that are broadly applied to keep from doxing an individual beyond what is necessary when precedential law has occurred is to not publish personal identifiable information. Things like, street address, birthdate, social security number, names of other family members, friends or witnesses, email addresses, business name or address, bank records etc. An example is the famous Roe v. Wade, in which the name of the woman that is named in the suit is known, however, it would not have been prudent to publish other identifiable information that could aid those that would have harassed her. These are rules that are in line with both the Federal Rules of Criminal procedure which governs the Judiciary, and the privacy act which governs the executive branch and much of the private sector. eximo (talk) 21:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I merely notified you about the area of contentious topics. All we're concerned with are the policies and guidelines for wikipedia. Schazjmd (talk) 21:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I found, on the page that you cited the WP:BLPPRIMARY the sections addressing privacy protection. Please see

• WP:BLPPRIVACY
• WP:DOB

Both of which mirror most existing federal and judicial privacy related laws/rules in the U.S. and likely other developed democracies. eximo (talk) 22:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve Operation Blackwrist

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Thank you for creating Operation Blackwrist.

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It would be great to integrate this into Wikipedia by linking it from elsewhere.

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@Klbrain:

Very excited for to get additional editors attention to this page. Do you have some suggestions as to how to incorporate links from other pages?

Also, if you wouldn't mind looking in on Operation Dark Huntor, Operation Lobos 1, and tell me what you think about reverse merging Operation Pacifier from Playpen (website).

I'm wanting to do a project to create a standard info box for these Multinational Law Enforcement Operations as well as a standard writing template of for the articles. I'm not sure how to gather people in a project for that type of consensus work.

I've already started the infobox templating process here User:PaladinOfDaedalus/Infobox_law_enforcement_operations

eximo (talk) 20:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)@

To link it from elsewhere, think about topics that might benefit from this operation as an example: perhaps of international coorperation, or the international scope of child abuse. Getting others involved is quite difficult, as there are so many frontiers in Wikipedia. Starting a discussion on the talk pages of relevant Wikiprojects can sometimes help; perhaps Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Law (not my specialty, I'm afraid!). Regarding Playpen (website), I'm generally a fan of keeping related topics together unless they're TOOBIG. In that case, I'd leave it where it was, expand the content there (if you're in the mood), and only propose a SPLIT if the page got too big (around 50-100k of readable prose, of if the page was unbalanced). I'll see if I can find some time to look at the other operations.

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Thanks for putting this together. It serves a purpose for oversight/transparency, and I agree that its best separate from Federal Police of Brazil.

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Klbrain (talk) 14:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Another editor has commented noted that it needs more indepedent references. All of the references so far are from organizations involved with the opertation, so could be seen as having a biased point of view. So, some independent sources; news articles covering the topic; journal articles would be even better.

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Klbrain (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

@Klbrain

Very much agree, at the moment, most of the information pertaining to the "secret" operation is provided only by the goverment(s). But I understand the need for secondary sources. eximo (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Operation Genesis moved to draftspace

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Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Викидим (talk) 07:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Викидим It's a translation of the German language page, I can go back and finish adding in the references if that is sufficient. eximo (talk) 20:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. I have assumed that the article was finished, with just one source that mentions it. This is generally considered not enough for WP:EVENTS (and WP:GNG), so I have decided to move it to Drafts, where it can accumulate more sources. Sorry if I disturbed your workflow; you can prevent it in the future by simply tagging your article with {{Under construction}}. Викидим (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Викидим

I appreciate keeping up a good defense against unnecessary page creation. Keep up the good work.

I'm adding some additional sources in now, but the move to draft space broke the English wikipedia linkage to the german wikipedia. I'm not sure how to manually add it back since the german wikipedia thinks they are still linked. I've only added from the german or portugues side, and not the english side for the linkage. Any help? eximo (talk) 21:00, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I expect the problem to take care of itself once the article is back in the mainspace. Викидим (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Police operations in Germany

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@Liz

I understand the category is blank. It's a complimentary page to the german page at the moment. The german page will have at least 10 pages once I'm done finding all of the german operations, then I'll port them over. it might take a few days though. eximo (talk) 22:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Law enforcement operations in Germany

A tag has been placed on Category:Law enforcement operations in Germany indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Your draft article, Draft:Nationwide Investigation Advisory Committee

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