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File:Federation Haitienne de Football.png

Hi Expicit. Would you mind taking a look at this edit? Someone has re-added the file to Haiti national football team and removed it from Haitian Football Federation. This is a day-old account that has done the same thing for some other similar files. They could just be new and not understand the NFCC; or, they could've just created a new account to make these types of edits. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Hi, I have blocked the account as an obvious sockpuppet and reverted those edits. If their other contributions need to be reverted, feel free to do so. ✗plicit 13:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I was posting a message on their user talk page and didn't notice your ping. Perhaps they'll respond, but maybe it was just a throw-away account. Pinging Whpq, Fastily and JJMC89 as a courtesy since they had previously removed some of the files that were re-added by this account. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

File:HarmonyOS 4.2 Home screen.jpg

Hi Explicit! My mentee, XeVierTech, has uploaded c:File:HarmonyOS 4.2 Home screen.jpg to Commons, but it is a non-free screenshot. Would you be able to Special:Import it to enwiki and delete it at Commons? Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@HouseBlaster: Hmm, it seems that only the description page was imported. The image itself will need to be uploaded manually. ✗plicit 14:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Will do. Thank you so much! It should probably be deleted from Commons as a fair use image. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

In the most gentle way possible to say this, it appears you accidentally imported all of the templates used in the file, overwriting the local version. So, e.g., enwiki's {{information}} now contains all of the history of c:Template:information. Best, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Template:License template tag?

What is going on with {{License template tag}} and other unused and/or empty templates that you appear to be importing from Commons, especially given that the templates appear to be deprecated, empty, or unused on Commons? Is there a discussion that I can read? You usually know what you are doing, so I assume that something useful is happening here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Oops, it looks like HouseBlaster already noted that something appears to have gone a bit sideways. Please see your contributions about 45 minutes before this time stamp. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Judging by the clock at the top of this page, it is currently 12:30 in the morning for Explicit. I am guessing he is currently getting some well-earned rest, and his timecard seems to confirm that. I have opened a thread at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Cleanup for an import booboo, but I am not asking for sanctions, just for an admin to fix the mistake while you are asleep. CC Jonesey95. Best, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 15:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

For sure an honest mistake. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Err, well it seems that I ticked a box I shouldn't have during the import process. I did not expect "Include all templates and transcluded pages" to get imported as well, actually. That's what I get for importing something for the first time.

My deepest apologies to Pppery for having to clean up after me. ✗plicit 23:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Don't worry. It appears Module:Information, Template:License template tag, and Template:Infobox template tag still need to be deleted as G6, if you want to take care of that? House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Done. I believe I was promised a seafood meal? ✗plicit 00:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

I thought someone else had provided the meal :) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

2020 Games

Hey Explicit, I wanted to follow up with your deletion closure of 2020 Games. As it was 2 !votes to delete, a !vote to not delete, plus a comment pointing towards the term's widespread usage, I feel that should have been relisted. 1992 Games targets the 1992 Olympics, 2008 Games targets the 2008 Olympics. Furthermore, 2022 video games targets 2022 in video games, and all of which have been longstanding redirects of precedent. If anything, 2020 Games should have targeted either the 2020 Olympics, or 2020 in games, with a hatnote indicating that wherever it redirects (as "2020 games" is a highly used method of referring to either of the two subjects). I don't think the subsequent deletion votes were particularly strong in this situation ("not useful" was countered with evident use in sources, and a per nom); if a title is simple and searchable enough, hatnoting the most relevant titles is usually a preferred method compared to outright deletion, especially if a primary topic is known (which seems to be the case here). Please let me know what you think! Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 18:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

@Utopes: Hi, I'm currently traveling, so I'm not able to give this a proper look at the moment. I will be able to provide an adequatue response on Monday. Apologies for the delay. ✗plicit 00:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Utopes: Hi, I have relisted the discussion. ✗plicit 13:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

2024 Georgian Cup

Hi @Explicit,

I'm writing to make sure you don't have anything against creating the 2024 Georgian Cup page from anew. You have deleted the original one because of a banned author. Gorgin18 (talk) 09:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gorgin18: Hi, feel free to create the page. It was deleted in accordance with WP:CSD#G5, which only applies to the sockpuppet's edits and has no bearing on that of others. ✗plicit 13:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible Folding of EuroLeague Broadcasters into EuroLeague Article

Hi @Explicit,

As you were the admin who closed the List of EuroLeague broadcasters article, can you yourself please provide me a copy of a draft of the old article, or can you direct me to how best to obtain it? I would like to see if any of it is appropriate to include in the Media Coverage section of the EuroLeague article, which previously pointed people to the now-deleted article for the main discussion of that topic. Thank you. Coining (talk) 13:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

@Coining: Hi, I'm currently traveling, so I'm not able to give this a proper look at the moment. I will be able to provide an adequatue response on Monday. Apologies for the delay. ✗plicit 00:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Explicit: Enjoy your travels. Thank you for the update. Coining (talk) 00:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Coining: The article looked like this prior to deletion. ✗plicit 13:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Explicit. I'll look to incorporate only the sourced material into the main page. Coining (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Re-doing 'Michael Huppe' Deleted Wikipedia Page

Hello @Explicit! Hope all is well with you.

I am looking to post a new Wikipedia page for 'Michael Huppe' to replace and improve upon content that was previously deleted, and noticed that you were the most recent user to interact with the original page and ultimately remove it. I wanted to reach out to you first before proceeding with creating the new page. [Here is the old page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Huppe]

I can see that you have been active on Wikipedia for many years and have a broad range of experience. Since you have worked on many things since the page I'm referencing was deleted, I would like to provide a very brief refresher: For your background, Michael Huppe is a music industry executive, author and professor of law, currently serving as CEO of SoundExchange. SoundExchange is a non-profit and is the only organization designated by the U.S. government to collect and distribute digital performance royalties for sound recordings. Michael Huppe, both in his role at SoundExchange as an individual who engages in music rights advocacy, has played an integral role in policy development and has been directly involved with the passage of several important industry pieces of legislation, amongst other personal and professional achievements.

Regarding the new page I would like to create for Michael Huppe, it is important to note that the new proposed copy is different from what previously existed on the page and includes a significant number of new sources and added context that affirm the individual's notability.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts, questions or suggestions regarding the creation of a new 'Michael Huppe' page. Your expertise here is incredibly valuable and any guidance would be much appreciated.

Thank you for considering. Hannrose (talk) 17:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

CSD G13s

Hello, Explicit,

I'm not sure if you live where there is Daylight Savings time but for the U.S., the clocks changed in the autumn on November 5, 2023. So we can no longer go strictly by the time of the last human edit on the draft, you have to add an hour to that time to delete it properly or go by the UTC time on the SDZEROBot list. If you don't live where you "spring forward, fall back", well, I guess you were just a little eager with the draft deletions today. Thanks and glad you are back. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

RfD relist request

Hi Explicit :) In the light of arguments made in various sections of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 24 (e.g. #The F-Bomb (film), #F-Bomb (documentary)), please could you consider undeleting and relisting the RfD for The F-Bomb (documentary), which didn't receive comments from editors other than the nominator? All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@A smart kitten: Hi, I have gone ahead and restored the redirect as it was. There was consensus in the related discussions to target the redirects to Fuck (2005 film). ✗plicit 01:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Potential G5 undeletions

Hello there, unfortunately as part of the whole Ylogm saga the pages Ming succession dispute, Yang Rong (mandarin), Yang Shiqi and Yang Pu (Ming dynasty) they created while socking all got G5'd. Since the content is unrelated to the reason for their block and were all very good starts for pages, would you consider their undeletion? Thank you very much.

P.S. I don't really expect you to remember, but sorry for my last visit here regarding my application for rollback permissions, I didn't respect your time and patience as much as I should've done. Remsense诉 02:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense: WP:CSD#G5 applies to all pages created by the sockpuppet. They will need to be recreated from scratch. ✗plicit 06:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know! Remsense诉 07:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Actually, this is a bit of an odd request and if it's too much work please decline, but would it be possible for you to post the lists of sources used in each article so that I could have something to work from rewriting them? Remsense诉 11:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

The sources used were as followed:

Ming succession dispute

Brook, Timothy (2010). The troubled empire: China in the Yuan and Ming dynasties. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04602-3.
Huang, Ray (1988). "The Lung-ch'ing and Wan-li reigns, 1567—1620". In Twitchett, Denis C; Mote, Frederick W. (eds.). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part 1. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 511–584. ISBN 0521243335.
McMahon, Keith (2016). Celestial Women: Imperial Wives and Concubines in China from Song to Qing. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 9781442255029.
Zhang, Dewei (2020). Thriving in Crisis: Buddhism and Political Disruption in China, 1522–1620 (1 ed.). New York: Columbia University Press.
Duindam, Jeroen (2016). Dynasties: A Global History of Power, 1300-1800. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9781107637580.
Zhao, Jie (2002). "A Decade of Considerable Significance: Late-Ming Factionalism in the Making, 1583-1593". T'oung Pao. Second Series. 88 (1/3): 112–150. doi:10.1163/156853202320465404.
Goodrich, L. Carington; Fang, Chaoying (1976). Dictionary of Ming Biography, 1368-1644. Vol. 2, M–Z. New York: Columbia University Press. ISBN 0-231-03801-1.
Dardess, John W (2002). Blood and History in China: The Donglin Faction and Its Repression, 1620-1627. Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press. ISBN 9780824825164.

Yang Rong (mandarin)

Tsai, Shih-Shan Henry (2002). Perpetual Happiness: The Ming Emperor Yongle. University of Washington Press; Combined Academic. ISBN 0295981245.
Dreyer, Edward L. (1982). Early Ming China: a political history, 1355-1435. Stanford: Stanford University Press. ISBN 0-8047-1105-4.
Chan, Hok-lam (1988). "The Chien-wen, Yung-lo, Hung-hsi, and Hsüan-te reigns". In Mote, Frederick W.; Twitchett, Denis C (eds.). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part 1. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243327.
Hucker, Charles O (1998). "Ming government". In Twitchett, Denis C; Mote, Frederick W. (eds.). The Cambridge History of China. Volume 8: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part II. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243335.
Goodrich, L. Carington; Fang, Chaoying (1976). Dictionary of Ming Biography, 1368-1644. New York: Columbia University Press. ISBN 0-231-03801-1.
Chang, Kang-i Sun (1998). "Literature of the early Ming to mid-Ming (1375–1572)". In Chang, Kang-i Sun; Owen, Stephen (eds.). The Cambridge History of Chinese Literature : Volume 2. Cambridge, New York, Mebourne, Madrid, Cape Town, Singapore, Sao Paulo, Delhi, Dubai, Tokyo: Cambridge University Press. pp. 1–62. ISBN 9780521116770.

Yang Shiqi

Chan, Hok-lam (1988). "The Chien-wen, Yung-lo, Hung-hsi, and Hsüan-te reigns". In Mote, Frederick W.; Twitchett, Denis C (eds.). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part 1. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243327.
Tsai, Shih-Shan Henry (2002). Perpetual Happiness: The Ming Emperor Yongle. University of Washington Press; Combined Academic. ISBN 0295981245.
Hucker, Charles O (1998). "Ming government". In Twitchett, Denis C; Mote, Frederick W. (eds.). The Cambridge History of China. Volume 8: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part II. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243335.
Chang, Kang-i Sun (1998). "Literature of the early Ming to mid-Ming (1375–1572)". In Chang, Kang-i Sun; Owen, Stephen (eds.). The Cambridge History of Chinese Literature : Volume 2. Cambridge, New York, Mebourne, Madrid, Cape Town, Singapore, Sao Paulo, Delhi, Dubai, Tokyo: Cambridge University Press. pp. 1–62. ISBN 9780521116770.

Yang Pu (Ming dynasty)

Dreyer, Edward L. (1982). Early Ming China: a political history, 1355-1435. Stanford: Stanford University Press. ISBN 0-8047-1105-4.
Chan, Hok-lam (1988). "The Chien-wen, Yung-lo, Hung-hsi, and Hsüan-te reigns". In Mote, Frederick W.; Twitchett, Denis C (eds.). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part 1. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 182–304. ISBN 0521243327.
Hucker, Charles O (1998). "Ming government". In Twitchett, Denis C; Mote, Frederick W. (eds.). The Cambridge History of China. Volume 8: The Ming Dynasty, 1368–1644, Part II. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243335.
Chang, Kang-i Sun (1998). "Literature of the early Ming to mid-Ming (1375–1572)". In Chang, Kang-i Sun; Owen, Stephen (eds.). The Cambridge History of Chinese Literature : Volume 2. Cambridge, New York, Mebourne, Madrid, Cape Town, Singapore, Sao Paulo, Delhi, Dubai, Tokyo: Cambridge University Press. pp. 1–62. ISBN 9780521116770.

Thank you so very much. Remsense诉 01:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Iconic Awards Article

Hi, When I tried creating the article it says contact performer, International Iconic awards is TV awards nationally recognised. Can I create or if you let me create one? Or I’m okay if someone else experienced in award article creators can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_September_11#International_Iconic_Awards EntrepreneurPedia (talk) 16:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@EntrepreneurPedia: Hi, the previous titles were redirects. If you plan to write a new article, then the result of those discussions would not apply. Feel free to proceed. ✗plicit 01:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

I dont have any experience in writing or publishing, when I tru it ask me to try in sandbox I’ll prepare my article in sandbox if think its worth and allowed on Wikipedia please take me through. EntrepreneurPedia (talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuri Lushchai

I am afraid I didn't find a rationale for deletion during the closing of nomination. I as author of the article was not pinged on the nomination page by the person who nominated, or anyone else in discussion. Therefore I couldn't provide a rationale for keeping. There are two articles in Radio Liberty about him, and numerius others providing significant coverage. As the result, I ask you to restore the article. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

UPD. I now checked that there is message on page, but somehow I didn't get a red notification and didn't check the article. The request still holds. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

@BilboBeggins: Hi, I'm currently traveling, so I'm not able to give this a proper look at the moment. I will be able to provide an adequatue response on Monday. Apologies for the delay. ✗plicit 00:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@BilboBeggins: Hi, I looked over the discussion again and, since the page was deleted with a pretty resounding consensus, I cannot unilaterally undelete the page. You are free to work on a draft and submit your work for review. ✗plicit 13:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Then can you please restore page in a draft? BilboBeggins (talk) 04:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@BilboBeggins: The page is now available at Draft:Yuri Lushchai. ✗plicit 06:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@BilboBeggins @Explicit I have no issue with the draftification, however note that at Wikipedia_talk:Deceased_Wikipedians#Yuri_Lushchai consensus was that he wasn't appropriate to list there either. There is going to be a long road back to mainspace. His death is sad, but that doesn't make him notable per English Wikipedia standards. Star Mississippi 12:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

But listing at deceased Wikipedians is not connected to notability, and Wikipedia is international encyclopedia, so many locally known figures have also wikipages in English. The criterion is significant coverage in reliable sources, that is what I want to establish. I want to underline that he did have coverage in reliable sources, though they wrre in Russian and Ukrainian. BilboBeggins (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Correct, but when someone isn't notable prior to their death, their death being in the news doesn't make them notable. WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTAMEMORIAL apply. That is the issue that came up here. I hope you're able to identify sufficient sourcing to change that, but it didn't appear to be the case. Star Mississippi 02:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

There are arguments that he is notable as scientist and poet.

We have plenty of articles that have only sources published after death. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome to keep trying, but what you've added so far does not negate the AfD consensus which was strong that he wasn't notable by either criteria. He was in the news following his death, but that doesn't make his work meet the criteria. Star Mississippi 13:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ziad Sakr

Hi @Explicit,

I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to discuss the deletion of the Wikipedia page for Ziad Sakr, a professional squash player. I've reviewed the deletion reasons and would like to understand the specific issues to address them appropriately in a new page creation.

Ziad has been active on the professional tour for almost a year and has made significant progress, rising from a world ranking of 800 to a peak of 179 in January 2024, and currently holding a rank of 192. He has won a professional title and several major junior titles, including the British Junior Open. Additionally, he earned a silver medal at the World Championships team event in Poland, was named Player of the Year in college squash, achieved All-American status, and won other notable titles in college squash. All the articles and proper citation were cited.

For comparison, I've observed that athletes with similar or lesser achievements have maintained pages on Wikipedia, such as:

Joseph White (squash player)
Matías Knudsen
Vikram Malhotra
Low Wee Nee
Kush Kumar
Thoboki Mohohlo - despite having no citations or listed achievements.
Abdalah El Masry

Could you please provide specific feedback on what was lacking in Ziad's initial page and guide me on how to meet the notability criteria more effectively? I am keen to ensure the new page adheres to all Wikipedia guidelines and provides a factual, well-documented profile for Ziad Sakr. Thank you for your time and assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squash writer (talk • contribs)

Squash writer, Explicit deleted the article; they didn't nominate it for deletion, or argue for deletion. The reasons for deletion are right there in the discussion. Comparing with other articles only goes so far. Did you compare with bad articles or with good articles, or even Good Articles? Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Explicit, never mind: I'm about to drop a CU block on this editor. Drmies (talk) 22:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Annamalai Kuppusamy

Hi @Explicit,

I recently stumbled upon the draft page for the Wikipedia article on Annamalai Kuppusamy, which was deleted following a discussion almost four years ago in 2020. Originally, the article aimed to highlight Annamalai Kuppusamy as an Indian Police Service officer, but his trajectory has since shifted towards politics. He currently serves as the state president of Tamil Nadu for his party and has participated in Tamil Nadu legislative assembly elections, alongside his current candidacy in India's general elections.

Interestingly, his article exists on the Tamil Wikipedia and was created by User:பயனர்:Almighty34 who also happens to be an administrator on the Tamil Wikipedia. Given this, I believe there should be consistency across languages in Wikipedia.

Notably, Kuppusamy meets the criteria for WP:NPOL due to extensive media coverage, with mentions in nearly every major reliable Indian source listed in WP:RSP, including The Indian Express which also has a profile page on him. He has also received coverage from The Guardian and Al Jazeera English which is rare for local politicians in India.

If the reasons outlined above still do not suffice, then I propose that if the English version of the article is considered insufficient, the corresponding Tamil language page should similarly be removed and restricted to admin creation only to ensure uniformity across languages.

Looking forward to your thoughts on this matter. Xoocit (talk) 17:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Here's a kitty for you! Thanks for your nice work around WP:AFD and WP:PROD. Cheers!

Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 18:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

G5 deletion?

Hi Explicit. Do you mind to put your thought on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iyeth Bustami. Thank you. Ckfasdf (talk) 08:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Fiona Muir-Harvey

Hi Explicit. Hope you are well. I’m writing to discuss the deletion of the page I created earlier today. Everything was sourced and double-checked before posting. Please communicate your reasons for deletion so that I can understand and begin creating a new page. Taylor312 (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Taylor312: The page you created was not deleted, but moved into draftspace by Johnj1995. I simply deleted the resulting redirect in accordance with the speedy deletion criterion cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. You will need to discuss the matter with the user who moved the page to understand their reasoning for doing so. ✗plicit 13:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Open, but Unlisted AFD

Hello, An AFD that I created[1] and that you relisted[2] is still open. It appears that maybe when you removed it from the April 19th log, it was not added to the April 26th log? I'm not sure how to fix it. -- Mike 🗩 12:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ckfasdf: Hi, thanks for letting me know about this. I have added it to today's log page. ✗plicit 13:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Creating Page Title, You deleted in AFD 2 years back.

Hi, entirely re-written an article at my Sandbox, since the title is protected for ADMIN only. I cant directly publish there, I would like you to move it from my Sandbox. Here’s the reason why this time its different I’ve not added anything thats not in the media, after reading last AFD what I’ve understand is the article previously deleted may have been completely promotional. I wrote unbiased neutral and title definitely passes BLP - GNG.

Also my friend at my IT company has asked me to write this so I’ll be definitely disclosing it at talk page and userpage after.

Here’s the AFD link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ehraz_Ahmed_(2nd_nomination) Virus0000 (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

@Virus0000: Hi, you are free to submit your draft by adding {{AfC submission}} atop your sandbox. ✗plicit 23:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Seeking Guidance on Republishing Sergey Smbatyan's Article on Wikipedia

Hey @Explicit,

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to express our gratitude for your invaluable contributions to improving Wikipedia content. Your dedication to maintaining accuracy and reliability within the platform is truly commendable.

I am reaching out to discuss a matter regarding an article draft that was deleted last year under your supervision. The draft in question pertains to Sergey Smbatyan, and it was removed due to a lack of reliable sources at the time.

Since then, I worked to gather sufficient and verifiable sources covering Sergey Smbatyan's accomplishments and contributions. I believe that now I have a robust set of references that meet Wikipedia's standards for reliability.

Given your expertise in this area, I would greatly appreciate your guidance on the process of republishing the article. I want to ensure that I adhere to all Wikipedia guidelines and protocols to guarantee the article's compliance and accuracy.

Your insights and direction on this matter would be immensely valuable to me, and I am eager to collaborate with you to bring this article back to the platform in a manner that upholds Wikipedia's integrity.

Thank you once again for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Warm regards Grigor Khachatrian (talk) 07:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You did this at Liz's talk page too. Read my advice there. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

And stop using AI. GPTzero (AI detector) scores at 100%, and Copyleaks (another AI detector) flags your message(s). Pasting the same AI generated message on admin talk pages really isn't going to help you. If you are not proficient in English, please edit the Wikipedia of your language. Do not use AI on Wikipedia. Thank you. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Please userfy

Forgot to do this myself before the MFD expired, but could you please userfy {{Standard offer info}}. I want to keep it in my userspace for future reference and improvement, if that's possible. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@TheTechie: I usually userfy pages deleted at XFD upon request when there's room for improvement, but in this case, I'm not seeing what could possibly be done to do that. Can you please elaborate how restoring the content would not just serve as a way to bypass the TFD result? ✗plicit 23:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Why did you delete /Greenville_County_Republican_Party

I don’t believe that article in any way qualifies for deletion. If you believe otherwise, please explain. RJDAVISJR (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@RJDAVISJR: As the deletion log states, Greenville County Republican Party was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion that took place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenville County Republican Party. ✗plicit 23:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!

I can't click the "thanks" button on page deletions, so I just want to say thanks for the mass-G5-ing of old Vvven articles you did earlier. They've been languishing in CCI for a year, and this saved a lot of time. And who knows, maybe when the next Vvven sock comes back, they'll take the hint? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 06:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions has been nominated for discussion

Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 06:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I mention this mainly because you appear to be deleting pages directly from the category, so your opinions at the discussion would be appreciated. Primefac (talk) 06:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Lul

I thought an article was ineligible for deletion via WP:PROD if it had previously been undeleted. DuncanHill (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: That's the case if it was previously deleted by PROD or at AFD. The deletion log shows that it was temporarily deleted to expunge revisions of vandalism. ✗plicit 00:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

That's not what WP:PROD says. DuncanHill (talk) 00:12, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: Well, seeing as it was deleted to remove the move log from the page history—specifically when it was moved by Hg re ? (WP:LTA/Grawp is relevant here)—it's pretty clear that the deletion was not based on the merits of the page itself. If you are contesting the PROD, you can just say that. Policy directs me to restore it upon request. If you feel that I abused my administrative tools, feel free to bring the issue up at WP:ANI. ✗plicit 00:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:Navajo Nation Peacemaking Program

this was not a test page, can you please reinstate? LegalSmeagolian (talk) 17:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@LegalSmeagolian:

Done, I have restored the draft. ✗plicit 00:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion Review Article Universidad Del Pacífico - Ecuador

Hello @Explicit

As per instruction on Deletion review

"Consider attempting to discuss the matter with the closer as this could resolve the matter more quickly. There could have been a mistake, miscommunication, or misunderstanding, and a full review may not be needed. Such discussion also gives the closer the opportunity to clarify the reasoning behind a decision"

I wish to propose that the article be temporarily undeleted and be relisted to the if possible within WikiProject Higher education in order to recieve the input from editor peers that are working on similar projects.

Best Regards,HarveyPrototype (talk) 22:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@HarveyPrototype: Hi, this AFD had already been relisted once and was open for two weeks. When it was open, it was listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Organizations, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ecuador. None of the concerns brought up by the nominator or subsequent "delete" !votes were adequately addressed. I do not see a reason to open the discussion for an additional third week. ✗plicit 12:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Explicit

Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate your attention to the process and your efforts in listing the AFD in relevant WikiProjects. However, I would like to highlight the ongoing discussion in the WikiProject Higher education, which is currently more active than the Wikiproject Ecuador. In this conversation, other editors have identified significant coverage of the university that was not brought to attention during the deletion discussion.

Given that WikiProject Higher Education is more active and has more experience with articles of this nature, I believe it would be beneficial to relist the article for deletion in this project. This would allow for a more thorough review by editors who are well-versed in the criteria for notability and sourcing for educational institutions.

I respectfully request that the article be relisted under the appropriate WikiProject to ensure a comprehensive and fair evaluation.

Thank you for considering this appeal. HarveyPrototype (talk) 18:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Doing a direct search not on google, rather directly in the news portals you may take a look at the search results of a couple of examples:

[El Universo], [Expreso] HarveyPrototype (talk) 04:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

اريد نشر مقال

واريد من يساعدني علي زالك Mahmedahmed12 (talk) 21:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Drafting process (recent deletion G8) Kosmos_2553

re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=162239463

I am not versed in the latest article creation norms. Last night I started to create a missing page for one of the entries in this table List of Kosmos satellites (2501–2750) for Kosmos_2553. Since it was late at night, I decided to gather draft article content in the Talk page of the article and revise it today. Instead, the page was deleted for G8 - which is fine, I understand my approach was not the norm. So, what IS the norm when organizing material for the initial content of a page? Just use a section of my personal page I imagine. Or directly post initial draft to article, then revise soon. Just don't leave article blank! ha.

Lastly, is there a reason you didn't just move the content of Talk:Kosmos_2553 to the empty Kosmos_2553? I assume because you didn't need to spend time reading the talk page since the situation was clear cut deletion due to G8... Mac (talk) 23:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Macowell: There was no article content on the talk page, so moving it into mainspace was not reasonable. If you are simply gathering sources, it would be safer to add them into a subpage in userspace or create a page in draftspace. Would you like me to restore the content and move it? ✗plicit 00:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. in the future, I will use my userspace sandbox page for the same kind of draft/research work. No need to restore; I just finished writing the article with more sources. check it out actually let me know if it passes muster: Kosmos 2553 Mac (talk) 01:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Recent AFD close

Hi Explicit!

I see that you recently closed this article nomination at AfD as no-consensus because it hadn't received any participation in the deletion discussion. If I really think that the article fails WP:GNG and has no adequate coverage, what would be the best course of action? Should I PROD it, re-nominate at AFD or wait for a while before doing any of the two above?

Thanks so much!

Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 21:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cocobb8: Hi, in general, users are advised to wait three months before nominating a page for deletion again. This particular article is not eligible for WP:PROD, so it must go through AFD once more. If there is a possible WP:ATD, that's a step worth considering as well. ✗plicit 00:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 12:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Low-res image was moved to Commons; not sure what process to use

I have a question about File:1925-1926 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team.png, and I'm asking you because (1) you were the deleting admin and (2) you know the processes better than I do.

This image was non-free when uploaded, but copyright expired in 2022. Only the low-resolution reduction was transferred to Commons, while the high-resolution original upload remains in the deleted history here. I tried to download the high-res image to disk and upload on top of the Commons image with attribution, but I don't have the requisite permissions to overwrite at Commons.

Where can I request this type of operation? I suppose I could undelete the full-res file here and tag as {{Incomplete move to Commons}} for further attention, but this may be too confusing. There are undoubtedly more files in this situation. Wikiacc (¶) 02:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@Wikiacc: I have exported it with the original revision, you can now simply reverted to it on Commons. ✗plicit 03:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Based on what you did, it looks like the next time I see this situation, I'll tag the Commons file for speedy deletion under G5, undelete the file here, and then do the export properly. Wikiacc (¶) 21:32, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

anti-jewish pogroms by Muslims

Hey, why was this article (Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims - Wikipedia) deleted? Guyveru01 (talk) 11:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Guyveru01: Hi, Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims was deleted because there was consensus to split the category into Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms in the Middle East and Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms in North Africa as a result of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 18#Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims. ✗plicit 00:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Undelete page

Hi, I noticed you closed this PROD a while back. I would like to request undeletion. The concern was "Unused, obviously incorrect license tag (not PD-US), but unclear if this is eligible for Commons. Esoteric file format, dubious encyclopedic value".

"Unused" - Can just be transferred to Commons, File:Chittenden Hotel 1963.tif is a crop of this image so might as well have this image around
"obviously incorrect license tag" - image was made in 1963, likely published somewhere without notice. Website also states "No known copyright restrictions", it is unlikely these photos went unpublished.
"esoteric file format" - tif is in no way esoteric
"dubious encyclopedic value" - the cropped image I linked is being used in Wikipedia. Clear c:COM:EDUSE.

—Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 16:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Matrix:

Done, file restored. ✗plicit 00:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for File:WBBL05 Cap Logo Heat.svg

An editor has asked for a deletion review of File:WBBL05 Cap Logo Heat.svg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Kys5g^talk! 03:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Alaa Najjar

hi can you check the news again in this article i think should be go to delete not relaibel sources and not good sources Hi mana oh w0 (talk) 06:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)@Hi mana oh w0: I'm not Explicit, but I just want to let you know that the "Alaa Najjar" article was actually nominated for deletion a few years ago but was kept per the consensus established at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alaa Najjar. Have you taken a look at that discussion? I guess, in principle, you can nominate the article for deletion a second time if you really think it needs to be discussed again. If, however, you decide to do that and just simply repeat the same delete arguments made in the previous discussion, you're unlikely going to gain any real support from others. In addition, since you've only made two edits with your account so far, and both have been related to trying to get this article deleted, others will likely wonder about your reasons for soing so. Is your interest in having this article deleted perhaps related to reasons not havning anything to do with Wikipedia? To be honest, it's a bit odd when someone randomly appears out of the blue and create an account simply for the purpose of seeking an article's deletion, and it kind of gives the impression that there may be something more going on that's not really Wikipedia related. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok thanks @Marchjuly but @M7 has other opinions about this article and This article only contains sources from local sites and mentions his name in passing and does not meet the standards Hi mana oh w0 (talk) 09:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry this Admin User:Mz7 Hi mana oh w0 (talk) 09:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah ok. I was mentioned, but I've never interacted on this. --M/ (talk) 09:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Hi mana oh w0 is LTA User:علي أبو عمر. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie, Explicit, M7 and Marchjuly for documentation, please see m:Special:diff/26807100/26849317; this LTA created 4 accounts recently. --Alaa :)..! 19:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Karin van der Laag

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Page nameKarin van der Laag. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. on their talk page. Karinvanderlaag (talk) 18:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I imagine that the editor is having trouble creating the DR. Sometimes the instructions can seem arcane. I wonder, Explicit, if you would be kind enough to assist them. Please see the foot of their user talk page where I suggested primarily that they discuss this with you, but I think they are trying to move to a review. They did not create the article, nor !vote in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag, but mangled it when trying to set up the DR. You will notice that their interest in the article is that it is about them. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:32, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I do not anticipate your close to be overturned. There has been a set of heated discussions by various editors with the editor, and a discussion with you may help. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Karinvanderlaag: I'm not sure if there is much guidance I can provide without repeating what was given at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag and your talk page. Deletion review has specific criteria that must be met in order to challenge my closure of the discussion. The only possible options for this case would be 1 and 3, but you would need to provide evidence for each to be considered. ✗plicit 03:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Why are "Category:Images of The Teenagers" and "Category:The Teenagers audio samples" being nominated for deletion?

I know I should be improving editing and worrying less about categories, but why these categories above being deleted? May I ask? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Inajd0101 (talk) 16:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Inajd0101: As the notice says, these categories are scheduled for deletion for being empty. You had added them to the local description pages for files hosted on Commons. Per WP:FILECAT, these types of files should be categorized on that Commons, not here on the English Wikipedia. ✗plicit 23:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh okay,

I wouldn't mind as long as there is a reason. Thank you! Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 23:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Knightfall merge

Hello Explicit, per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 13#Knightfall (comics), can you add the {{merge}} tag to Knightfall (character) to merge to either List of Batman supporting characters or List of DC Comics characters: K, the current target, or may I do it? Jay 💬 17:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

@Explicit: Did you get a chance to see this? Jay 💬 05:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Jay: Hi, sorry, seems that I missed this message. Please feel free to proceed. ✗plicit 08:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Yale School of Medicine logo.svg

Could you undelete this one, please? I meant to re-add it to its article but didn’t change the file extension, so now we’re favouring a PNG file that somebody added into Yale School of Medicine instead of the SVG I uploaded. Thanks, odder (talk) 00:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Odder:

Done, file restored. ✗plicit 00:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of TC Bexar.jpeg

I am contesting your deletion of the file of a photo of an elected official, citing unauthorized copyright. This file originated from the following government website https://www.bexar.org/719/Precinct-4-Commissioner-Tommy-Calvert

Please show the state or local statute applicable to the County of Bexar protecting this image from use on Wikipedia. GarrisonNeely (talk) 19:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@GarrisonNeely: Works by state governments are not automatically released under a free licensed. Few state governments relinquish the rights of works created by its employees; Texas is not one of them. ✗plicit 11:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

File:2024 Lok Sabha elections logo.png

Hi Explicit, its me again. You deleted this file on the back of this discussion. The main reason given for its deletion was lack of understanding. This image is the official logo for the 2024 Indian general election (www.https://elections24.eci.gov.in/) Shouldnt such images be there on the respective wikipedia pages? I understand that the infobox currently does not support election logos, but it had found space whithin the scope of the article. As a pic, it has served its purpose of being the official logo so I dont see why it should not be there. Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Explicit Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pharaoh496: I'm not seeing how its use in the article was justified in accordance with WP:NFCC. It was used decoratively in the body of the article and the logo lacked sourced critical commentary to meet the contextual significance criterion. ✗plicit 11:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

For instance, the 2019 Indian general election has its logo below the infobox. They are used in such a way because the infobox is not equipped to include a logo. This, however should not be the reason for the exclusion of the logo from the article itself, and kept there temporarily till the infobox gets that parameter, or either stays there below the infobox in perpetuity. Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pharaoh496: Other stuff exists is not an indication that the other logo is justified by policy. I have nominated it for deletion. The infobox not possessing a parameter for election logos is probably a sign that their use is not justified. ✗plicit 13:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

NomadBSD

Hello, NomadBSD was deleted (by you) three years ago. However, it's a popular BSD distribution now, with unique features: in my opinion it deserves an article. I suggest recreating the page; I can do it myself if that's ok with you guys. Eritr (talk) 10:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@Eritr: Well, the article only contained one reference at the time of its deletion, which was a link to the operating system's own website. If you can produce the three best sources that show significant coverage from reliable sources, you are technically free to create the page. Personally, I would suggest creating a draft and submitting it through the articles for creation process, but that decision is ultimately up to you. ✗plicit 11:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I created a stub but, a few minutes later, I got a G4 speedy-deletion notice. Eritr (talk) 08:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Karin van der Laag page

Good Day Explicit

I hope you are well. I saw in my notifications that you had left a comment for me but when I cam to your page it says the comment has been deleted or removed. Could you please put the comment back so that I can take your advice about my page. My page was poorly sourced by whoever wrote it and I can remedy that.

Kind Regards

Karin Karinvanderlaag (talk) 10:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I am a bit worried about this web page that I found online. Do you know how this would have happened?

https://fynamicswealth.com/?_=%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FKarin_Van_Der_Laag%23V0DO5QRBtCHGNb1bRZ9EH02dqhz%2FHNyR Karinvanderlaag (talk) 11:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

User:Or3omimi 5

Dear Mr. @Explicit, please delete user page such as User:Or3omimi 5 because CSD G5. Thanks. 36.78.197.242 (talk) 14:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Can Man Dan

Hi Explicit,

I hope all is well!

I am contacting you (hopefully in the right way) to contest the deletion of my Wikipedia page "Can Man Dan". I'm not sure why it was deleted, but I happened to notice its removal today when I was speaking at a school and we were trying to pull up some information and relevant news stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_Man_Dan

Believe it or not, that article helps me fundraise for a variety of free community events in Alberta -- it's a nice way for people to see our (my team and I) history as do-gooders. I would love to have it back if possible? I may not be famous worldwide, but people know me up in Canada -- which I'm not sure counts lol

I saw that it was self-gratifying or whatever you posted, and I can tell you that I don't edit my own page lol. I barely know if this is the best way to get a hold of you to contest this deletion.

Anyway, thank you for your consideration and God bless.

Please let me know if you have any questions!

"Can Man Dan" Daniel Johnstone 2604:3D09:9282:6C90:711B:F76F:B8CF:8220 (talk) 21:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, I created this account if you need to get a hold of me! DanielJohnstone (talk) 22:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@DanielJohnstone:

Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ✗plicit 03:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it, Xplicit! You really helped a brother out -- thank you. God bless and much love. DanielJohnstone (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Ni railways logo.svg

Hello Explicit, could you please explain to me how the former logo of NI Railways (Northern Irelands State Owned Railway company was not fair use). It was in the public domain. I am not saying you're wrong to remove it. It's just NI Railways had three logos throughout its life the original one on the page as we speak, the one you deleted that was used until 2021, and the current one presently used. If this version of the logo cannot be replaced, could you suggest another way to incorporate into the Wiki page "NI Railways". Many Thanks RooneyDonal21 13:47, 15 June 2024 (IST)

@RooneyDonal21: Hi, the file you linked was tagged as fair use; only the current infobox image is tagged as being in the public domain. ✗plicit 14:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

O right, is there any way to get the image back in a different copyright or it is gone for good RooneyDonal21 (talk) 14:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 15 § X by ethnic or national origin

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 15 § X by ethnic or national origin on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 22:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Cover arts

Hi there. Since you extensively work in this field, I wanted to ask: is using a non-free album cover inappropriate when the topic of the article is not the album / soundtrack itself? Yes, it can be added after creating a separate article for it, but what if the album is not notable enough to have its own dedicated article and only exists as a sub-section of another? Can it be used after appending a valid rationale explicitly stating that it will be only used in a single article to illustrate the appearance of the said work? Thank you. Lunar-akaunto／talk 11:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lunar-akaunto: Hi, in general, it's not appropriate to use a non-free album cover on any page other than in the infobox of the article about the album itself. ✗plicit 12:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Not that I'm bordering on the guidelines themselves, but it's just that I never gave this much thought before. Can there be exceptions to this, say, if a consensus is reached on the talk page of the said article? Contextual significance says to use it when it would increase the readers' understanding. That clearly justifies the use in an article where the album itself is the topic, but I don't understand how it does not apply to an article where the album is listed as a sub-section of another. The cover still remains very much inferior to the original and, in no way, is detrimental to the original work. Lunar-akaunto／talk 13:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

One more important thing: the template does not say anything about this, but I wanted to ask just how many extra covers can be used in an album's infobox. I see alternative covers being used left and right; can there be a second alternative cover added if it is substantially different from the previous two present? My conscience says going over 3 would be overkill, no matter how different the covers may be, but I think it's already not so wise to speak of adding a second alternative cover. What do you think of this? Lunar-akaunto／talk 13:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lunar-akaunto: There have been several RFCs in the past about the subject, which is explained in detail at WP:NFC#cite_note-3. Consensus has time and time again that the use of album covers anywhere outside of the album article generally do not meet the contextual significant criterion.

Regarding the use of a second extra album cover, I can't say that I'm aware of any examples off the top of my head. I do vaguely remember many years ago a discussion at FFD regarding seven very different additional album covers by a European singer, and I'm pretty sure all of them were deleted because none of them were critically discussed in the article. ✗plicit 14:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I understand. One last thing, since this seems to depend on the context and significance of the cover on the section, do you suggest I try proposing adding the cover to the article's talk page? Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Seven covers?! That's not something I could think of.

Anyhow, thank you for your help. Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:50, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Just going to add the following to what Explicit posted above. The first is that a local consensus can't supersede a community-wide one; in other words, article talk page discussion can't take precendence over established community-wide policy or guidelines just because it's what those discussing on the talk page might want to do. The second one is that even though the people making templates like {{extra album cover}} have really made some things easier, they sometimes either don't give much thought to or intentionally avoid going into too much detail in the template's documentation as to how policies related to image use might impact the use of the template. There are lots of templates that have an image-related parameter, but it's really the responsiblity of those wanting to use an image in a template (not the template's creator) to make sure doing so complies with relevant policies related to image use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Yes, exactly; that's what I thought as well, which is why I asked here. Thank you for linking to the template; it was helpful. About the template creators specifying the use in the template, when i said the template does not say anything about this, what i meant was not to imply that the template should mention it or question the creators' choice but just a query since it doesn't mention it. I totally understand that just because a parameter exists and is there does not mean that it should or can be used. Anyhow, my doubts regarding this are cleared now.

If you don't mind, see, I understand one exception to using cover art where the album itself is not the topic of the article is where adequate and properly sourced commentary is provided. Do you thin it is appropriate to add the cover art for The Garden of Words#Soundtrack? My reasoning for this is that the album is not very well known; it was never released as a standalone album and was released only bundled with the movie. To date, the album is digitally exclusive to Japan. I think it'd be helpful to readers in recognising the said album, as even the web doesn't filter many results. Not being well known, in turn, might raise concerns about piracy, but that's already countered by using a low resolution cover that is very inferior to the original.

One last thing: do you think there are any chances of this being approved if a consensus is appealed to the community? Is Wikipedia talk:Non-free content talk page the right place to propose it? thank you. Lunar-akaunto／talk 06:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll answer your questions in reverse order since the second one is easier to answer. Proposals to change policy or general questions as to how it's applied should be made/asked at WT:NFCC, whereas discussion related to an individual file and how it's being used should be made a WP:FFD.

Regarding The Garden of Words, I think there's zero chance of such a non-free use being cosidered policy compliant; not only because of WP:NFC#cite_note-3 that Explicit mentioned above, but also because of WP:FILMSCORE. So, unless there's something about the cover art itself (i.e. some controversy or other reason) covered in some depth by reliable sources, none of the reasoning you posted above would (again in my opinion) rise above the level of WP:DECORATIVE non-free use. Even in that case, such content would be more appropriate for a stand-alone article about the album or perhaps a stand-alone article about the artist/creator/designer of the cover art. If you tried to add a non-free album cover to that section, the file would likely be WP:PRODded for deletion as clear-cut violation of relevant policy. You could WP:DEPROD it, but I don't see a consensus being established for in favor of its inclusion at FFD. As for being digitally exclusive to Japan, I'm not sure how that's even possible given today's technologies, but it might also not even be true because of this, this, this and this (assuming that's the same soundtrack). Finally, even the track list in that section probably shouldn't be there per "WP:FiLMSCORE". -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Mmm I see. But, well, it's fine. I just wanted a third opinion, and I can agree with what you said. It's not something major, so I'll drop the idea of adding the cover and get on the same boat as you and @Explicit.

Okay, so I didn't originally add the listing here; it existed long before, but considering it is a good article, the reviewer or others probably considered it, right? i don't ever recall reading WP:FILMSCORE. This is the first time someone's pointed me to it. Though i must admit this doesn't excuse me from adding listings, I have done it very often. So, I'm genuinely confused now. Is it walking the thin line when adding the listing themselves? I mean, we're not streaming the audio, and we have already omitted the cover where possible, so how is it detrimental to the original work?

About the release, what you listed in 3 of the links is Kotonoha (言ノ葉) by Motohiro Hata, who sang the theme song for the film (it is not the official soundttrack to the film but a single by Hata, which too was exclusive to Japan until recently; it only received a global release last year). What I was talking about was The Garden of Words Original Soundtrack (言の葉の庭サウンドトラック). To date, it is exclusive to Japan, for whatever reason the label knows. It is one of my favourites, but it's a shame the label never went for global release. (the 4th link is unofficial and was uploaded by some random user, but it still remains that sources like that are what allowed me to listen to the soundtrack in the first place, but it's fine because the profits still go to the label). Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Softly deleted article

Hi Explicit, The article I created was Softly deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shahzada Ahsan Ashraf by you. The article was deleted as per only one editor suggestion and I were not around to object for his nomination. The subject of the article is notable not only his political involvement but also he is business man and lots of media coverages which I can provide. Faresian (talk) 06:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Accidentally Suckpupeted Someone

that is not the Banned one 41.122.144.205 (talk) 17:31, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Koimoi

Hi Team,

I have reviewed your comments regarding the deletion of Koimoi's Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koimoi) and would like to share my observations and findings.

From your comments, I understand that you were unable to find authoritative sources citing Koimoi, which is why there were concerns regarding the authenticity of their information. I did a little bit of digging on the web and found some information you might find interesting.

Here are a few of the major publishers that refer to Koimoi: * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/shah-rukh-khan-opens-up-on-dunki-says-it-will-be-a-big-journey-film-high-on-comedy-and-drama/articleshow/103658679.cms

Basis the above links, I believe a re-evaluation of the Koimoi Wiki page is in order. Please do let me know if the above sources suffice or if there are any other concerns.

Thanks!

Tonton12 (talk) 04:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tonton12: Hi, I took a look at all the sources above and none of them are about the website. They are drive-by mentions which simply cite it Koimoi for information. Please read the notability guideline for web-specific content to better understand what is required to warrant an article on Wikipedia. ✗plicit 00:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Feedback on draft of previously deleted page

HI Explicit, A page was previously deleted. I attached a revised draft for your feedback addressing the editorial comments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anand_Reddi This subject matter expert is important given the role in protecting HIV funds for treatment scale-up as well as the body of research assembled to show the broader health system investments. The subject matter expert has also made other important contributions in global health. Would love your feedback if this current draft addresses your concerns. Also planning to reach out to the other editors as well for their feedback. Thanks again for your thoughtful feedback. Trex32 (talk) 18:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Trex32: Hi, I do not review drafts, but another volunteer will determine whether it abides by Wikipedia's notability standards to either accept the decline the draft. ✗plicit 00:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Xplicit. I understand. Thank you so much Trex32 (talk) 00:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia editor：bai0926

Hello Explicit . I noticed that my page User:Bai0926/Fashion in China may have been moved or deleted. I realize that something has gone wrong with my article and I would like to work on improving this article to meet Wikipedia standards. Can you please help restore it to my user space for further revision and improvement? Can you help me restore it to User:bai0926/fashion in China? Thanks! I'll be sure to follow Wikipedia's order and create it carefully. Bai0926 (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Pages created by a sock

Can you delete the pages created by Banned user @Kemilliogolgi who is a sock of banned user @AdityaNakul The sources used in these pages do not pass WP:FAKE

Pages created by the sock account

Hashid Khan (talk) 06:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hashid Khan: These pages were all created before the sockmaster was blocked. WP:CSD#G5 only applies to pages created after their block, in violation of the original block. I have declined the deletion of the page that was tagged as such. ✗plicit 06:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of "noel r thomas"

Hello, Little bit new to this and was surprised to see my page deleted (Noel R Thomas). Just wondered what the issue was as I'm happy to edit my page so it passes the wiki criteria. Regards Noel Noel R Thomas (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Junaid Khan (Pakistani actor)

Hello Explicit - I'm still trying to comprehend what went wrong here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Saqib: Hi, it took me a minute to figure out what transpired as well. Basically, 2409:4050:2DB8:63D5:7C2B:8C48:5F7E:EDF5 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) performed a cut-and-paste move by copying the content of Junaid Khan (actor) over to Junaid Khan (Pakistani actor), and the IP redirected the former into the latter. You moved the latter into draftspace and tagged the resulting redirect for speedy deletion in accordance with WP:CSD#R2. I deleted it as such, unbeknownst to me that the newly formed redirect Junaid Khan (actor) made by the IP went with it. I inspected it and noticed over 400 deleted revisions, which is not typical for a redirect. After putting the pieces together, I reverted the edits on Junaid Khan (actor) to restore the article content and on Junaid Khan (Pakistani actor) to restore the redirect, then moved the redirect history back into mainspace. Hopefully, it's a lot easier to understand this than it was to explain it. ✗plicit 14:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

OK, and do you know the reason behind why IP did this? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Saqib: Their edit summary states it was to "avoid confusion with Indian actor". ✗plicit 14:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

WestNet Wireless

WestNet_Wireless - how are you could you please undelete the page? We are volunteers and created several drafts but many references but we are not sure where the page went thank you. 2002:4230:7AE:0:0:0:4230:7AE (talk) 04:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to request the restoration of the WestNet_Wireless page. I understand that the previous version of the article may have been deleted in error and /or not have fully complied with Wikipedia's guidelines, but I am committed to revising and improving the content to meet the required standards. WestNet Wireless is a notable company with a rich history in the telecommunications industry. As part of WestNet Inc., the company has been a pioneer in deploying Wi-Fi networks in Calgary, utilizing technology from WiLAN. It has also played a crucial role during emergencies, such as the 2013 Alberta floods, by providing essential internet access through their Mobile HotSpot Vehicles. In 2020, WestNet also became a major supplier of medical masks during the global pandemic, highlighting its significant contributions to public health and safety (masks.health).

I have gathered reliable sources and comprehensive information to enhance the article's quality and ensure it aligns with Wikipedia's notability and verifiability standards. Could you please help restore the page to my user space at User

/WestNet_Wireless for further revision and improvement? I am eager to work on it and create a well-referenced, neutral, and informative article. Thank you for your assistance and understanding. I look forward to your positive response. Calgaryleb (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

WestNet_Wireless - how are you could you please undelete the page? We are volunteers and created several drafts but many references but we are not sure where the page went thank you. 2002:4230:7AE:0:0:0:4230:7AE (talk) 04:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply] I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to request the restoration of the WestNet_Wireless page. I understand that the previous version of the article may have been deleted in error and /or not have fully complied with Wikipedia's guidelines, but I am committed to revising and improving the content to meet the required standards. WestNet Wireless is a notable company with a rich history in the telecommunications industry. As part of WestNet Inc., the company has been a pioneer in deploying Wi-Fi networks in Calgary, utilizing technology from WiLAN. It has also played a crucial role during emergencies, such as the 2013 Alberta floods, by providing essential internet access through their Mobile HotSpot Vehicles. In 2020, WestNet also became a major supplier of medical masks during the global pandemic, highlighting its significant contributions to public health and safety (masks.health). I have gathered reliable sources and comprehensive information to enhance the article's quality and ensure it aligns with Wikipedia's notability and verifiability standards. Could you please help restore the page to my user space at User

/WestNet_Wireless for further revision and improvement? I am eager to work on it and create a well-referenced, neutral, and informative article. Thank you for your assistance and understanding. I look forward to your positive response. Calgaryleb (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC) Calgaryleb (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Calgaryleb: Sorry, but as the page was deleted as a result of a deletion discussion, I cannot unilaterally undelete the page. You are free to work on a draft and submit your work for review at Articles for creation. ✗plicit 23:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

ok so can you restore it so i can alteast get the content to start working on it ? WestNet is a substantial company in Canada and USA but they like to be modest too . Calgaryleb (talk) 21:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Calgaryleb: As I suspect meatpuppetry given the messages above and below, no. ✗plicit 01:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

still not sure why it was deleted

the page is 15 years old, it had references.. Calgaryleb (talk) 03:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Reducing protection on disco-pop

Hi. I've created a small description about the genre here, as it's being mentioned quite often in the articles: [3] and it keeps reappearing as a genre in the infoboxes (eg. Please Please Please (Sabrina Carpenter song)). What do you think of reducing the protection on Disco-pop so I could make a redirect to this section? Solidest (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Solidest: Hi, I have unprotected the title. ✗plicit 03:38, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in deleting orphaned fair use files

Yesterday, I went through all the files in Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files as of 21 June 2024, to see if any were worth saving and ran out of time. I was going to come back to them today, when I noticed that several of them were already deleted. I believe you made some errors in your deletion of orphaned fair use files yesterday. File:Ogo Bodhu Shundori.jpg was in use in Ogo Bodhu Shundori at the time of its deletion, here is where the file was added back six hours before its deletion, [4] and here is where ImageRemovalBot removed the file after you deleted it, [5]. Several other files were deleted with being tagged for less than seven days. All of these files were tagged on the June 21 and were in Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files as of 21 June 2024 and were deleted after June 26 instead of June 28: File:Bagh Bondi Khela poster.jpg, File:FelixLeiterCoverArt.jpg, File:Vanathai Pola serial.jpg and File:You Walk Alone.jpg. If you could revert all of these deletions, I will add them back to their respective articles. Thank you, Aspects (talk) 22:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

@Aspects:

Done, files restored. Not sure what happened here or what's going on with the articles. This in particular looks like undetected vandalism. ✗plicit 23:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

WestNet Wireless

Hi ! I am writing as a dedicated subscriber and supporter of WestNet Wireless to request the restoration of the company's Wikipedia page. The recent deletion of this page came at a crucial time when WestNet is engaging in significant negotiations with larger corporations and government entities. The timing of this deletion is quite suspicious, given the company's substantial contributions to the telecommunications industry. WestNet Wireless is of immense significance, particularly known for its collaboration with WiLAN, the inventors of Wi-Fi. This partnership was essential in deploying the first Wi-Fi networks, an achievement that is well-documented and rooted in the innovations of Hedy Lamarr. WestNet's contributions span various sectors, including telecommunications, healthcare, aerospace, and logistics, making it a vital entity in the technological landscape. As a cooperative community, we highly value WestNet's efforts, especially in areas like Bridgeland, where their impact has been profound. WestNet has been instrumental in deploying Wi-Fi networks and supporting community initiatives, showcasing their commitment to technological advancement and community development. Deleting the WestNet Wireless page undermines the recognition of these significant achievements and contributions. Therefore, we kindly request that the page be restored to reflect the true historical and technological importance of WestNet Wireless. Thank you for considering this request. We are eager to contribute further to the Wikipedia community and ensure that notable entities like WestNet Wireless are rightfully represented. Sincerely, Matt 66.150.164.95 (talk) 00:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

thanks for trying to help . i m not sure why it was deleted either. :( 50.99.36.71 (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

hey the westnet wireless was deleted in error ? please fix thank you

hey the westnet wireless was deleted in error ? please fix thank you 50.99.36.71 (talk) 18:41, 28 June 2024 (UTC)