User talk:Coosbane

Is it permissible under any circumstances to quote a single paragraph from a copyrighted book? It is short, with five sentences. Its use is contemplated because of its particular relevance to the topic. Thanks. --Coosbane (talk) 16:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not. Sorry! — neuro^(talk) 16:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. According to the rules, what is the required format for publisher's permission to use copyrighted material. Thanks. --Coosbane (talk) 16:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You would have to get them to release it under a GFDL-compatible license, and then send the proof to OTRS. — neuro^(talk) 17:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Style

You seem to be doing good work, but your style is a little informal - for instance, sentences like "Time for Plan B." and section titles like "Sic Transit Gloria Mundi". There's a manual of style if you're in the mood for some heavy reading, but it's better to read through other articles, especially those at "GA" and above in Category:Rail transport articles by quality.

A few other things:

You shouldn't blank your talk page; see Help:Archiving a talk page.
You state that File:RochesterAndPittsburgh1.jpg was "first published prior to January 1, 1923", but only give the date it was taken. Many images taken before 1923 are not usable because they were not published until later, if at all. See [1].
Are you sure that the Rochester and Pittsburgh Railroad built the Kinzua Viaduct? Everything I've seen, including our article, says the Erie did.

--NE2 20:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sic transit gloria mundi is an intentional literary device utilized to make the point that grand plans often ended up in ruins in the railroad industry. Is there a page which lists all Categories? Haven't been able to find one with everything. The notation that the R&P built the viaduct is an error. Thanks for pointing it out. It'll be corrected shortly. --Coosbane (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know what "sic transit gloria mundi" means (and it's not specific to the railroad industry), but it's a little too colloquial for Wikipedia. Generally the history would go into a "history" section, and that can be split if necessary. [2] lists all categories, but I don't know if you want that

--NE2 21:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as the weather allows, I plan to canvass the local rail historical resources for a better collection of better-documented photographs. For what it's worth, my recent image selections have been more carefully made than the earlier ones were. --Coosbane (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but there's still a strong possibility that they are not free. It's certainly annoying, but that's life. --NE2 21:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm making fewer rash assumptions about that now. As for replacing Sic transit gloria mundi, how about a play on the word, "terminal"? --Coosbane (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about not making plays on words? Except in rare cases, like Conrail, the disposition of the property is not complicated enough to require a separate section anyway. --NE2 21:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The exception in this case (or these cases) is that, in almost all instances, the end of one railroad led to the appearance of another. The Terminal section deals with the details of this connection or relation. --Coosbane (talk) 21:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would fit nicely at the end of a history section. See, for instance, California Southern Railroad. --NE2 21:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I will work the change in as I go through these articles. --Coosbane (talk) 21:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Second thoughts on this. Since these are all railroads which disappeared long ago, their entire stories are history. Thus, there is no section per se as history, as the entire article consists of historical content. It seems to me that it makes more sense to retain the structure of dividing the history into the sections that I've used, including one clearly identified as how things ended for the railroad. This creates a consistent top-to-bottom/start-to-finish pattern that keeps the article from being merely a factoid list. Does this make sense, as you see it? --Coosbane (talk) 22:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Depending on how long the article is, you may only need one section for history. Sections are generally at least several paragraphs long. --NE2 22:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting an unneeded article

{{helpme}} The Rochester and Pittsburgh Railroad article has been folded into Buffalo, Rochester and Pittsburgh Railway and can be removed. What's the proper procedure for accomplishing this? Thanks. --Coosbane (talk) 12:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Easiest would be to turn it into a redirect, that way people looking for the old name will find the new article. Regards So Why 12:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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That image was removed from its article some time ago. The image can be deleted at any time. --Coosbane (talk) 13:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sluggishness

{{helpme}} In light of the recent six million dollars received by WP, I find it peculiar that the WP system remains sluggish and unresponsive on many occasions. Did the money go into resources other than servers? --Coosbane (talk) 13:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you need help with anything in particular? --Closedmouth (talk) 13:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) It went into various things. This should answer your question. — neuro^(talk) 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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