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Video game templates
Hi,
I have reverted your changes to the numerous video game generation templates. These templates were merged into one based on discussion and consensus here at Wikipedia. A discussion needs to occur before they are unmerged, as they cause a lot of clutter and unnecessary information. Please visit the talk page at Template_talk:Video game consoles if you want to open such a discussion.
Thanks! -- ferret (talk) 14:13, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- I think you are mixing two different issues together. The merge of generated-related templates and the transfer of content from Template:Video game consoles to Template:Home video game consoles are different issues. That list only lists home video game consoles, so it should be in Template:Home video game consoles instead of Template:Video game consoles. Whether we should merge generated-related templates to one single template is another issue, which you should not mix them with. I can put the merge issue aside for now, but handheld game consoles etc are obviously also game consoles. You should not use the term video game consoles just for home consoles. Thanks for understanding. --Cartakes (talk) 16:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- Your edits are resulting in near duplicate templates being displayed on multiple articles, due to redirects. Such sweeping changes to the article contents need to be discussed, and I once again ask that you begin a discussion before you do this. I would suggest self-reverting and opening the discussion, as another editor is likely to revert you and going forward without consensus just creates more work. Also, creating new templates rather than moving them as appropriate hurts the article history and makes it easy to lose track of why changes were done. -- ferret (talk) 16:45, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- Templates also require that the articles they are used on are linked to within the template, and several of your edits have not followed this. -- ferret (talk) 16:48, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- See my reply in your talk page. --Cartakes (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm Serge, an Admin here on Wikipedia. I appreciate your enthusiasm and efforts, but please discuss with the community before making such large changes that affect so many articles. It seems you've only been here a few days. Please slow down a bit and take the time to learn how things work here. Please discuss big changes like this at place like Wikiproject Video Games, and only proceed with them if there is consensus to do so. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 17:37, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games . Please note that currently video game console-related articles in WP are already in a VERY inconsistent state now which needs to be fixed, as I mentioned in that page. --Cartakes (talk) 17:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just that you need to discuss when your changes are opposed, and then only reinstate them if there is consensus to do so. Sergecross73 msg me 18:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Sooo...were you able to come to a consensus on how to handle this? I see you reinstating the changes again... Sergecross73 msg me 18:31, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Please see the result of the discussion at WT:VG. There is obviously no objection for solving the inconsistencies any more. I have already waited for 3 days and no more message, so I think I can safely assume the discussion is already over by now. --Cartakes (talk) 18:34, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- See, this is why I'm telling you again to slow down and learn how the website works. What you want to get is consensus. I don't see that there. No one really took a stance, it was still just you and Ferret arguing. I don't see a consensus for change there, and when there's no consensus, there's no change. In this instance, this would mean your change would not be implemented. You need to discuss further, especially when, again, its something as important as the foundation of how video games are defined and organized. I'm thinking you should stop and not make these changes again unless you literally get the go-ahead from an uninvolved party, like myself. Refusing to follow these protocols could conversely, get you blocked from editing. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 18:42, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- I am not refusing to following any protocols, but certainly I am going to stop now when I am told this is the right thing to do under such protocols. Thanks for telling me about how the protocol (or website) works. But I think there is already a consensus there are inconsistencies. The remaining things may be how to resolve them (I didn't see any objection from that discussion though). --Cartakes (talk) 18:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for stopping. Please just wait a bit longer, to get a consensus on how it should be fixed - if your approach is the right approach. I've notified a few people usually more active in these sorts of discussions, lets see what they have to say. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 18:58, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- I am not refusing to following any protocols, but certainly I am going to stop now when I am told this is the right thing to do under such protocols. Thanks for telling me about how the protocol (or website) works. But I think there is already a consensus there are inconsistencies. The remaining things may be how to resolve them (I didn't see any objection from that discussion though). --Cartakes (talk) 18:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- See, this is why I'm telling you again to slow down and learn how the website works. What you want to get is consensus. I don't see that there. No one really took a stance, it was still just you and Ferret arguing. I don't see a consensus for change there, and when there's no consensus, there's no change. In this instance, this would mean your change would not be implemented. You need to discuss further, especially when, again, its something as important as the foundation of how video games are defined and organized. I'm thinking you should stop and not make these changes again unless you literally get the go-ahead from an uninvolved party, like myself. Refusing to follow these protocols could conversely, get you blocked from editing. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 18:42, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Could you please slow down again? I've watched the work on the templates today, and while it should have been done in a Sandbox first it seems to be ok.... Should have waited but fine. Please delay adding them to tons of new articles though, because there's still some details to handle and having things like the Home console and 8th generation template on the same article is duplicate data and clutter. At this point Home game consoles, Handheld game consoles, and Micro console templates should probably be redirected. Please REJOIN the still-in-progress discussion at WP:VG. -- ferret (talk) 21:53, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. Thanks! --Cartakes (talk) 21:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of List of PlayStation Now games
Hello Cartakes,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged List of PlayStation Now games for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. William2001 (talk) 22:14, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
List of PlayStation Now games
Hello,
I read your message in my talk page. I would like to let you know that I have removed the deletion tag from your article. Have fun editing, William2001 (talk) 16:46, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
File:Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 cover.jpg
Sorry but had to delete this as a copyright violation. I know you copied it from hyperdimensionneptunia.wikia.com but its hosting there is also a copyright violation as that site are not the owners of the original image. It's use might meet the non free content criteria but it is most definitely not a public domain image Nthep (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I was really wondering why you deleted the image because it says "Content is available under CC-BY-SA" in the page. Thanks for the explanation. --Cartakes (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- You're generally OK to copy text from Wikia sites if you're sure it's not been copied from somewhere else but images are mostly copied off the internet even though Wikia rules ask users not to. Nthep (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now I know how to use its content. --Cartakes (talk) 22:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- You're generally OK to copy text from Wikia sites if you're sure it's not been copied from somewhere else but images are mostly copied off the internet even though Wikia rules ask users not to. Nthep (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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Your experience with Wikipedia so far
Hello Cartakes,
I am conducting research about newcomers to Wikipedia and I was hoping to ask you some questions. I’ve noticed you’ve had some good activity recently. Is there any chance you have time in the next month to speak with me? If you are interested or have any questions, please email me at gmugar [at] syr.edu or leave a message on my talk page.
I hope to be in touch soon,