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Feel free to leave your comments or questions and I will be glad to respond here. I often am away but will otherwise be prompt. Hoppyh (talk) 02:46, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Locations (Harding)

FYI, I no longer include publisher locations in citations unless a reviewer forces me to. I just don't think they're useful to the reader. In many cases, they've changed (even when publisher is still in business), they can get contact info on the web and what's the reader going to do with the address once they get it? Write a letter? Visit? /rant. That being said, I have no objection to their being added.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wehwalt: I think you are right-my thought was just compliance for FA purposes. Hoppyh (talk) 02:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LQ

I've noticed in your edits to presidential articles that you generally put punctuation within quotation marks in a sentence. The MOS:LQ portion of the style menu prescribes the use of "logical quotation", only placing punctuation within quotation marks when the source has it that way. (I acknowledge this goes against writing style used outside Wikipedia.) —ADavidB 16:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ADavidb and ADavidB: Well, Happy New Year to you too! My grammarian mentor and wife, and I, her loyal pupil, are devastated by this news! I am sure she will not sleep for weeks, which means nor will I! Shall I say, her word, concerning the WP rule, is "obtuse?" I will be glad to comply going forward, though I refuse to make any retroactive changes. Seriously, thanks for advising me. I regret I was unaware of this. Hoppyh (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Making aware was my goal. I do know it grates against many. As for pinging, it may be because my user name has a lower "d", though I sign with an upper "D". —ADavidB 20:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Adavidb: Thanks again. Trying the ping with the lower "d". I have gone back through Harding and made changes per the above. I don't want to take up your time further, but if you like, go through Harding and change anything you think is wrong–this would serve to get the article right and also I can check what you correct and it will help me get up to snuff. Just a suggestion, not a have-to. Happy NY! Hoppyh (talk) 22:32, 31 December 2021 (UTC) PS - I don't expect you to check the sources! Hoppyh (talk) 22:38, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln

I am contacting you for your contributions to Lincoln. Something that is missing from that article is, that 80 years before the Geneva Conventions were drawn up Lincoln created his own to deal with Minnesota War Crimes of 1862. His application of them is what commuted the executions of 263 instead of the popular explanation, the intercession of Bishop Whipple. Lincoln's consternation and delay caused him to arrive at a process that made the trials, War Trials. There is no documentation that Whipple actually accomplished anything. It was Lincoln's intellect and reasoning that produced the condemned list by separating War Crimes from Conventional War. The irony of that is that the Geneva Conventions were in response to the Holocaust and Lincoln is being painted with the Holocaust for those hung for war crimes. I expect anything I add to Lincoln will be deleted and expect that if you find merit to any of this you will know how to add it. ThanksMcb133aco (talk) 17:16, 16 February 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 17:16, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mcb133aco: I recommend that you take your suggestion to the Lincoln talk page for discussion there which will need to precede any additions to the article. Make sure you have at hand the requisite WP:RS. Thanks and good luck. Hoppyh (talk) 22:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to have troubled you.Mcb133aco (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sarah Embry Harrison (June 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Thank you for you submission. Interesting subject. Suggest only using very limited quotes (one or maybe two small quotes). The phrase "not only" does not belong in an encyclopedia article and this is written like an advocate on her behalf so be careful. An encyclopedia article is dry and straight forward (no editorializing). Please provide page numbers for the sources and another source or two would be helpful. Great start though!

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S0091 (talk) 21:30, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hoppyh! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! S0091 (talk) 21:30, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- @S0091: I cleaned it up per your advice. The Williamson source is the only one I've located, however. Thanks for your time on this.Hoppyh (talk) 23:07, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  I will let another reviewer take a look. I find its best to get different perspectives. Are you familiar with the WP:Wikipedia Library? I think you have been here long enough and have enough edits to qualify for membership and they have some great resources. S0091 (talk) 23:16, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sarah Embry Harrison (June 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HenryTemplo was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Sarah Embry Harrison and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Sarah Embry Harrison, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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HenryTemplo (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate very much your time in looking at this.Hoppyh (talk) 11:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

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Andrew Jackson talk page

Hello. There is currently an ongoing dispute at Talk:Andrew Jackson regarding a number of statements in the lead. As a significant contributor to the article, I invite you to participate. If you don't want to do so, no problem. Thank you. Display name 99 (talk) 02:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Sarah Embry Harrison

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Presidency Navigation Templates vs. Biography Navigation Templates discussion

Hello, Hoppyh! Since you are listed as an active member of the United States Presidents WikiProject, would you mind leaving a comment at a project talk page discussion about a series of templates that I created for the presidencies of Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush? Another editor and myself disagree about whether there should be a separate navigation template for each Presidency apart from the biographical navigation template. Thanks! -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concur that one navbox is sufficient and that creating multiple leads to unnecessary duplication as well as bloating. Hoppyh (talk) 13:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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Reversal on William Henry Harrison

I do not understand this reversal. Have you looked at the cited source? (To make the quoted text conform verbatim to the original, also the word "harshly" should be inserted.) --Lambiam 20:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC

If a quote is used it should be accurate.Hoppyh (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A Note re the Harrison Family

Thanks for the TY yesterday! Fascinating article, and I wanted to notify you personally* that I see several opportunities for good CEs in the portions I've read so far. This won't happen quickly; I am just a copy editor, and have very limited bandwidth for my WP kibitzing 🤠. BUT — given your interest, experience, and expertise (!!) — if I come across anything that feels more dicey than normal, I will send you info (and maybe a draft edit, or edit plan) before just jumping in with electronic quill pens at the ready. I would welcome your advice & consent. Best wishes to you and yours for the season!

I left a cheery note to this effect on the Harrison Family talk page. Left Central (talk) 11:37, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I greatly appreciate your collaborative approach. It is rare! I have the article on my watchlist and am happy to help with your improvements. Please have at it and if I see something that might be adjustable, I’ll let you know. Thank you for your kindness. Hoppyh (talk) 12:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really am glad for your interest in the family article, as well as your emphasis as a copy editor, which very much matches my own. Thanks again! (Hartwell) Hoppyh (talk) 13:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]