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December 13: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday December 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to AfroCROWD Street Culture Wikipedia Edit-a-thon and Year End Celebration on Saturday December 16!

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Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017

Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017

A new bibliographical landscape

At the beginning of December, Wikidata items on individual scientific articles passed the 10 million mark. This figure contrasts with the state of play in early summer, when there were around half a million. In the big picture, Wikidata is now documenting the scientific literature at a rate that is about eight times as fast as papers are published. As 2017 ends, progress is quite evident.

Behind this achievement are a technical advance (fatameh), and bots that do the lifting. Much more than dry migration of metadata is potentially involved, however. If paper A cites paper B, both papers having an item, a link can be created on Wikidata, and the information presented to both human readers, and machines. This cross-linking is one of the most significant aspects of the scientific literature, and now a long-sought open version is rapidly being built up.

The effort for the lifting of copyright restrictions on citation data of this kind has had real momentum behind it during 2017. WikiCite and the I4OC have been pushing hard, with the result that on CrossRef over 50% of the citation data is open. Now the holdout publishers are being lobbied to release rights on citations.

But all that is just the beginning. Topics of papers are identified, authors disambiguated, with significant progress on the use of the four million ORCID IDs for researchers, and proposals formulated to identify methodology in a machine-readable way. P4510 on Wikidata has been introduced so that methodology can sit comfortably on items about papers.

More is on the way. OABot applies the unpaywall principle to Wikipedia referencing. It has been proposed that Wikidata could assist WorldCat in compiling the global history of book translation. Watch this space.

And make promoting #1lib1ref one of your New Year's resolutions. Happy holidays, all!

November 2017 map of geolocated Wikidata items, made by Addshore
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Holiday Cheer + a barnstar

The Happy Holiday Barnstar
How about combining a Barnstar with a Christmas Card? That is why this message is appearing on your talk page. Simultaneously and at the same time, this barnstar is conferred upon you because during this past year you worked and contributed your time to improve the encyclopedia. You also have received far too little recognition for your contributions. In addition, this is a small attempt at spreading holiday cheer. I've appreciated all the things that you have done for me.
The Best of Regards,
Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉ and Merry Christmas 21:16, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Please join us for our Cascadia Wikimedians annual meeting, Saturday, December 23, 1 PM

If you are in the Seattle area, please join us for our Cascadia Wikimedians annual meeting, Saturday, December 23, 1 PM. If you cannot attend in person, you may join us virtually from your PC, Mac, Linux, iOS, or Android at this link: https://zoom.us/j/2207426850. The address of the physical meeting is: Capitol Hill Meeting Room at Capitol Hill Library (425 Harvard Ave. E., Seattle, WA 98102) 47°37′23″N 122°19′20″W / 47.622928°N 122.322312°W / 47.622928; -122.322312

The event page is here. You do not have to be a member to attend, but only members can vote in board elections. New members may join in person by completing the membership registration form onsite or (to be posted) online and paying $5 for a calendar year / $0.50 per month for the remainder of a year. Current members may renew for 2018 at the meeting as well.

Cascadia Wikimedians User Group is a recognized 501c3 non-profit organization in the US. EIN # 47-3513818 Our mail address is Cascadia Wikimedians User Group, 520 Kirkland Way, PO Box 2305, Kirkland, WA 98083.
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Board meeting notes

I threw the notes up at meta:Cascadia Wikimedians/December 2017 board meeting, they need formatting ☆ Bri (talk) 21:57, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:38, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018

You are invited to join us at Ace Hotel for Wikipedia Day NYC 2018, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of the project's global 16th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with keynotes, plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:41, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

HNY

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for 2018, —PaleoNeonate – 01:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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This Sunday! Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference (updated speakers + schedule)

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018

Part of Wikipedia's global 17th birthday celebration, Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 at Ace Hotel will include a mini-conference of scheduled panels as well as unconference style talks and discussions proposed by attendees on the day of the event. We are very excited to announce speakers such as Jason Scott (Internet Archive), Jackie Koerner (Visiting Scholar, Wiki Ed), and Andrew Lih (Wikimedia DC), as well as a fantastic line-up of panels that highlight projects and issues of relevance to the Wikimedia NYC community.

See Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 speakers + schedule

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) 02:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Metadata on the March

From the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing.

Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost.

SVG pedestrian crosses road
Zebra crossing/crosswalk, Singapore

Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata.

For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met.

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COI and Ɱ

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Are you 100% satisfied by Ɱ's disclosure on their userpage? My understanding is that you teach this, then either there's some misunderstanding about what we have at WP:COI, WP:DISCLOSE, WP:PAID and WP:ToU and teachings of best practice, or do I misunderstand something? Widefox; talk 14:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Widefox, I'm not sure what prompted this post, but from what I can see Ɱ's disclosure is perfectly acceptable (they state they were paid, who paid them, and which articles they wrote). Am I missing something that makes you think it's insufficient? Primefac (talk) 15:10, 19 January 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
See my talk. Widefox and Jytdog are hounding and honestly harrassing me with claims against me. They repeatedly insist I have a COI with the Culinary Institute of America, where I've written neutrally (as I am a historian) even though I've been a student and taken some small student jobs writing recipes or for the student newspaper. There's no grounds for such a COI accusation. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 15:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
(ec) At their main userpage? Thanks for asking, yes, Ɱ has just unhidden some disclosure on their userpage, but not all, and not per best practice, e.g. 1. "They must do this on their main user page" (emphasis own, my added wording two years ago) WP:PAID. "only live works" at User:Ɱ is irrelevant per WP:COI, WP:DISCLOSE, WP:PAID, WP:ToU - disclosure applies everywhere including drafts, non-mainspace, in all discussions and is not restricted to live articles (this is a common falsehood we see trotted out by COI editors, for example with Ahn at WP:COIN). (for the lacking context here see User talk:Ɱ#Conflict of interest in Wikipedia) Widefox; talk 15:24, 19 January 2018 (UTC) (disclose my 2 year old edit) Widefox; talk 15:55, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I assume you meant User talk so I changed the link. Primefac (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
You added that bit about "main" yourself diff, with no consensus or discussion, and then held me to it right away. That's barbaric. And I find it irrelevant to put on my main page that I was paid for something that was deleted. It's not a contribution to Wikipedia, not visible edits anywhere or anyhow, it might as well have not existed. It's silly. The COI page disclosure should be fine. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 15:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
At this point I think it would be better to formally bring the matter up at WP:COIN rather than asking random users for their input (which could be viewed as canvassing opinions). Primefac (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Primefac, this thread was meant to be about coordinating COI with Bluerasberry, a side issue that came up on Ɱ's talk initiated by Bluerasberry.
I agree it's not helpful for Ɱ COI to be discussed here. It's discussed solely at Ɱ's talk currently, and per that thread is waiting for the unrelated (CIA?) COIN by Jytdog. Ɱ, for the record, where did I claim you have a COI with CIA? Pls strike that inaccuracy (this is about your other COIs). (offtopic: as for "harassing", the same claim at ANI was previously rejected, so best strike that incivility too). Widefox; talk 15:46, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're complaining about then, if not the CIA. Seemingly it's the letter of the rules, like "visible", which nobody cares about, or like "main", which you wrote into the policy yourself and then forced upon me. If that's not illegal, it ought to be. And the ANI claim wasn't rejected; the ANI went nowhere, just like these conversations are. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 15:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Ɱ thanks for inviting yourself to this section to discuss your COI about something I wasn't aware of (which you've incorrectly said I've accused you of, but not yet struck), but getting back on-topic...
This section was meant to be about COI coordination with Bluerasberry using your disclosure as example, something they initiated on your talk which is more appropriate here. You should be aware that you must disclose in discussions like this that you have a stake in COI and COI policy, (and have previously been found to inappropriately edit COI guidance whilst having a COI), so I don't think it appropriate that in a topic of COI best practice, that you get to assert such falsehoods "illegal", or dismiss guidance edit consensus that's accepted for years including my edits to COI etc that have set best practice based on reaction to your previous hidden disclosure. No, I don't think that's best practice on different levels. Widefox; talk 16:13, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
This is not the place to discuss these matters. Please stop. Jytdog (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Agreed. I will wait for COIN. Widefox; talk 16:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for coming here. Yes I made comments elsewhere to advocate for Ɱ. I am unable to discuss the case here and am collapsing the discussion because I did not participate in it here. I continue to say that the situation is not COI in any sense which I have ever seen labeled COI in any other case. At the same time - I was incorrect to push back on the conversation. Jytdog showed me relevant information of the sort which the community usually discusses at COIN, so maybe that is the place for future conversation. Ɱ has requested privacy on their talk page and I do not wish to say more here. Thanks for the discussion. I do appreciate your attention. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

COI for WiR - disclosure and behavior

The stuff below is part of what I intend to address at COIN, but perhaps we can deal with this part here, or at least start to.

Bluerasberry, you participated in this discussion. I read that discussion with increasing dismay. Here is some of what Ɱ wrote there:

this: The Century Association is an immensely significant organization...
and this: As well, I'm using this category as a very important and useful tool in creating two drafts, one on the Century and one on its members....
and this: Plus this category is crucial to my work improving articles on the Century Association. WP:IAR says "if a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it." I need this in place, and your opinion that the category isn't relevant enough is simply blocking my access to work, not helping the encyclopedia.
and this: [This is exactly the sort of organization notable for Wikipedia, more than almost all others
and this: And yet you're wrong. Many members have had huge dealings with the club, including President Theodore Roosevelt. His club interactions are so notable there could be a separate Wikipedia article on them
and this Have you written a single article on a club? Every last one of them is remarkably poor and underdeveloped. It's a fault of Wikipedia, not the clubs. It's nearly as bad as the state of food articles on Wikipedia. The wiki might look great when only viewing military topics, architecture, or science, but overall it still is rather poor. As for the Century specifically, there could be 2,000 links easily. Once my work is done, there might be.

Those are statements made by somebody who is way, way too close to the subject matter. If I had been in that discussion, they would make me go look to see if the person discloses any relationship with the organization, for sure. The third one in particular, reading all that with the paid WIR status in mind, it comes across very, very badly - basically as "I have work I am being paid to do, get the hell out of my way". (shudder)

But I don't see anywhere in that discussion where Ɱ made it clear to the other participants that he is a paid WiR for the association. Somebody glancing at his userpage would not know that either. You have to click the "show" at the very bottom, and then carefully read the description of the Century project, which only says at the very end "My work will be funded by the foundation".

I don't see how Ɱ's behavior in that discussion, his statement of his intentions for his "Century project", nor his disclosure on his userpage, reflects best practices for a WiR as described here, but rather, I would reckon that this is actually the kind of stuff that people who support the WiR program wish would not happen. This is a paid WiR acting as a paid advocate. And that project is just getting started.

I am interested in your (Bluerasberry's)) thoughts here. Jytdog (talk) 16:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC) (tweak Jytdog (talk) 17:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC))

Look, I've been working with professional archivists to write history. It's not advocacy in any way. And yes, I've had to be very vocal and stressing to defend a piece of that work (extremely useful to and time-taking for what I was doing) that was under deletion discussion. I made use of policies I know. None of that is against rules. I am disseminating the archive's collections and familiarizing the staff and organization with Wikipedia. I found these to be more of WiR roles (which often are funded) rather than COI roles. I started off with drafting an article to replace the current Century Association article, using those archives. I'm not working for the Century Association, I'm working with an independent archives organization, the CAAF. They care about using their historical records to share aspects of the club and its members. They're giving me basically a token amount of money, this is really not worth the headache. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 16:46, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I still admitted there might be a conflict of interest. I put it on my COI page and userpage. I only drafted edits. I made clear my relationship to the CAAF, which has an informal relationship to the Century Association. That's following WP:COI as far as I can tell. If there were any discrepancy, you should post to my talk and we could resolve it. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 17:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I will respond to you one time here - my question was to Bluerasberry and it was not appropriate for you to interject here.
Your reply (diff) demonstrates the problem. You are unaware of how badly you are behaving, and the reflexive, combative defensiveness -- not showing self control or self awareness -- is very much part of the problem.
It is not clear to me that you should be permitted to continue as any sort of WiR.
I am looking for Bluerasberry's response here, since he himself has served as a WiR and helps others to do so, and understands very well the goals and pitfalls of the program and I am hopeful that he will try to help you understand how badly you have gone astray from the goals of that program.
I suggest you do not reply here further, at least not in the same way; you are providing the diffs that I will be using to argue for a topic ban from the WiR program if you do not soon (soon, not now - I do not expect this will be an easy turn for you to make) demonstrate a better understanding of the WiR program. Jytdog (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
@Jytdog:
I am not going to completely reply but I will make some comments.
  1. Everything highlighted by Jytdog is useful discussion. For example on point number 3 about something on wiki being "crucial" for an employer, because that is never a factor in deciding what is appropriate for Wikipedia. Also Jytdog is correct that paid editing disclosure needs to happen in every conversation when a person is advocating for an organization for which they have a COI.
  2. I agree with Ɱ - "this is really not worth the headache." There have been maybe 100-150 people who have tried to do Wikipedian in Residence work. So far as I know maybe 80% of those people either regretted it or would not do it again. For most people doing paid wiki work is not a positive experience.
  3. "Wikipedian in residence" is a community designation. Anyone can start calling themselves this but it is not a pass or permission to do anything. Everything that happens on wiki happens with the support of the wiki community, and if there is ever pushback or questioning, then users get the choice to either disengage with their activity or answer to community review. If wiki community review calls someone to process then being a Wikipedian in residence will not affect how the process proceeds.
  4. The short answer explanation of "Wikipedian in residence" which I give most commonly is that a Wir is someone who is employed to share information in the field of expertise of their employer, and that does not include editing about their employer. The more expertise that a Wir shares, then the more grateful the Wikimedia community is for their engagement.
I cannot speak further to this. While I would like for the Century Association to have an ongoing collaborative relationship with the Wikimedia community, and while they do have interesting and unique archival materials to share, it is hard for organizations, the Wikimedia community, and a hired Wikipedian in residence editor to negotiate priorities. When there is any conflict, any wishes of the Wikimedia community always come first, so getting Wikimedia community support for all engagement is essential to progress in a project. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Lane, that was very helpful.
If you and MJ are willing, the thing that would be most helpful in my view, would be for you to discuss with MJ, the goals of his WiR project with Century. The WiR page makes it pretty clear that the goal of the WiR should not be to expand content about the organization hosting the resident but rather to use the organization's resources to improve content about other stuff (for example, using images from the British Museum to illustrate articles about artists or your work with Consumer Reports, adding content about toasters or drugs). But MJ's work seems aimed at writing about Century itself... which is the wrong goal, I believe. Jytdog (talk) 18:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Could you do review a Hospital article for me

Hello! Could you do review a Hospital article for me: Mount Carmel East ? I am mainly a photographer and active on Commons but I am trying a hand at article writing and would appreciate a review maybe even some comments if you are so inclined. I will confess this is my first article and am open to all comments positive and negative. I would like to be better at contributing to en:wp so if I am doing something wrong please tell me. There is no rush to this at all to this request just whenever you have a spare moment. Thank you in advance -- Sixflashphoto (talk) 17:54, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Planned Signpost editorial

Hey Lane, long time no talk, I hope that you're well! Am thinking of writing an editorial later this year about how 1,800 or so of our Anatomy articles are going to turn 100 (as at least 1800 use content from the 1918 Gray's Anatomy). I was going to use that as a platform to talk about some of the issues we've faced in the anatomy space based on that, and also thinking about writing about the use of public domain sources in the medicine / anatomy space, which I thought you may know a fair bit about. Would you be interested in collaborating some time later this year? --Tom (LT) (talk) 22:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Tom (LT): Yes the easiest way for me to start with this is for us to meet by video or phone chat and type and talk at the same time. Having a voice conversation to get an outline of this helps to get a foundation and recruit other supporters sooner.
I would enjoy joining this, thanks for pinging me. I will email you now... Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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OTRS NYC based inquiry

Could you take a look at ticket:2018020110012386

As an aside, I think we should have a more organized way of responding to this type of request - someday we ought to come up with something.S Philbrick(Talk) 19:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Thanks for the notice about this New York City inquiry, which I will refer to Wiki NYC.
I do not know what to do about these sorts of issues in the longer term. In this particular case, I happen to know that Wiki NYC is already in contact with this organization as of a few days ago. Perhaps they are still in the process of writing to all available channels and that is why they wrote here also. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
A request in NYC is relatively easy. I'm more concerned about requests in areas of the country (other than SF). I think we should have an organized way of identifying which regional chapters should be contacted.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:48, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: I have no solutions but you might join meta:WALRUS/February 2018 to discuss. Post it as an agenda item. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018
m:Grants:Project/ScienceSource is the new ContentMine proposal: please take a look.

Wikidata as Hub

One way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.

Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8.

Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL.

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Your vote for 2018 stewards

Hi Bluerasberry,

Thank you for voting on my page. When I read "Instead the user just said that talking is not an option even on their wiki page.", I became curious. If I ever ignored you or made you feel like I'm a dead-end in communication, it was never my intention. Can you point to specific examples? I do know that sometimes my responses are delayed, which I do apologize for, but I don't think I ever left a comment/question on my talk page unanswered unless it is a barnstar, or a simple heads up notice.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Cyberpower678: You are referencing my comment at meta:Stewards/Elections 2018/Votes/Cyberpower678. Sure, I am still interested in the issue I raised if you would have a conversation with me about it. I do not think my concern is so complicated but if possible, I do think it would be easier to go over it in a phone or video chat than on wiki. I feel like you never understood my issue well enough to be able to repeat my exact request back to me, regardless of how you felt about it.
First I had gone to your talk page; I cannot find my message there, sorry, but at User talk:InternetArchiveBot you still have a message that no one should use that talk page for discussion of the bot, which I find to be unusual because that means there is no obvious public place to have discussions. From your talk page I went to Phabricator at T161108. From Phabricator at your request I went back to wiki. I confirm that I did not get community support for my idea, but also, I did not leave the discussion believing that you or anyone else understood my concern well enough to dismiss it. I might have my own fault for poor communication but I still wished that you could have heard me out to the point of demonstrating understanding of my base concern.
I do not think this issue needs endless conversation and if you cannot come to terms with it from past conversation then I could start fresh with short, direct questions. Let me know what is easiest, most fun, and feels best to you. I appreciate what you do and have only support, not criticism. I only poke at the tiny problem because I like the big picture results so much. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:24, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Are you on IRC? We can communicate there if you'd like.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 18:34, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
@Cyberpower678: I am not usually but I can jump into a room through Wikipedia:IRC if you direct me. Where should I go? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
#wikipedia-en connect <- Click the connect button to open the web interface. I take it by your previous response you have an IRC nick and cloak?—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 18:51, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the chat today, which resulted in Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_145#Disable_messages_left_by_InternetArchiveBot. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Pan (Metropolitan Museum of Art) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Pan (Metropolitan Museum of Art). Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 01:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

February 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday February 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) 22:19, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to Africa and the Diaspora Edit-a-thon @ Schomburg Center for Black Culture on Saturday February 24!

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AfC notification: Draft:Lucretia (Raphael) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Lucretia (Raphael). Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 08:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

wishing you well

Dear Lane, In my haste to leave the meeting last evening I didn't wish you well on your new adventure in North Carolina. I hope your departure is only temporary. If you need a contact at UNC my former boss is now the dean at the journalism program. I wish you well and hope to see you at some Wiki-activity somewhere. all the best, Ron Sexton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronald Sexton (talk • contribs) 15:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Snow

Giant snowball
Here's some snow to use til you come back north. Jeremyb (talk) 20:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Military history

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Military history. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Courses Modules are being deprecated

Hello,

Your account is currently configured with an education program flag. This system (the Courses system) is being deprecated. As such, your account will soon be updated to remove these no longer supported flags. For details on the changes, and how to migrate to using the replacement system (the Programs and Events Dashboard) please see Wikipedia:Education noticeboard/Archive 18#NOTICE: EducationProgram extension is being deprecated.

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Signpost help

Lane, thanks for your quick response to my call for help. Regarding [1] this, don't worry – it was strained in my own mind too. (I was trying to make light of low scores in soccer vs American football.) ☆ Bri (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Joining for WP:420?

Hi Lane. Just wondering if you plan to join the WP:420 collaboration again this year? I did't see your name on the sign-up. Hope you can do it. I've been working on a good redlist for newcomers, and getting some social media outreach started that might help to attract them (I hope). ☆ Bri (talk) 02:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey look, a barnstar for you!

The Art+Feminism Barnstar
Thank you for your awesomeness and support for Art+Feminism!
this WikiAward was given to Bluerasberry by Theredproject (talk) on 00:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Great minds

I proposed this before reading your proposal. Thoughts? Should we cancel mine, which is shorter in time and scope? Or leave them there and let WMF sort it out? ☆ Bri (talk) 23:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Saw your feedback on the op-ed page, and the endorsement; thanks. By the way I'm a "he" here, though the gender-neutral language is fine if you prefer it ☆ Bri (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
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