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Previous blurb

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I feel the need to explain a bit about the current situation of userboxes, as I see it. Apparently I've came to Wikipedia after a war about userboxes, which, also apparently, was not solved. Proposed solutions like Userbox Migration (aka The German Userbox Solution) didn't reach consensus, straw polls failed, but at least the war seems to have come to a pause (not to an end). Editors don't speedydelete userboxes on sight, but some people are following the Userbox Migration guidelines already. I suspect that the war will continue sooner or later; meanwhile, it has spawned a wikiproject, an essay on sides of the war, and attempts on categorization in user space. Well, other wars raged the country. While this thing is not resolved, I consider userboxes as gray area, so I really don't know wether I should list new userboxes in the corresponding Wikipedia categories or use other means to list my userboxes somewhere so others can use it. I don't know if I will waste effort on what is, looking closely, a silly fun thing just to see my userboxes deleted, moved or vandalised, and lots of people fighting over something like this. I think that is essentially bad for Wikipedia and for the people. Not the userboxes, but the lack of an official policy or guideline which stands out from the mess that all the proposals, projects, blurb and whatnot have created.

My main gripe is that maybe the straw poll created to solve this problem was too complex and tedious, and maybe it caused not enough people to participate, and gave contradictory results. The result was that the problem hasn't been solved. While some people are already putting into effect the userbox migration, others act as if the simple userbox solution is where things are at, and sooner or later someone will ask again why userboxes exist (or not) and where, and the war will begin again. That will happen because neither solution is an official guideline or policy, not because this or that. Remember, userboxes might deprive Wikipedia from a few more edits, but things like these wars deprive Wikipedia from a lot of effort, disrupt the process, and makes Wikipedia lose some good editors. I also find quite annoying that people seem to not pay much attention to Jimbo's take on the subject. IMHO they are already enough to build a policy or guideline which can settle things of. We all know what Wikipedia is not (a bureaucracy), but policies and guidelines are needed for controversial issues. And userboxes have proven to fall in that category!

If/when things get heated up again, what I'd propose is the following: a policy or guideline which can be described clearly in a nutshell, to settle things now. Get a consensus about it, not exactly if the guideline is the best possible one, but because clearing things about the subject will do good to Wikipedia. In other words, the guideline should not specify which userboxes need to be salvaged, but rather if any userboxes are to be salvaged and how. Details can be discussed later. Arguing about the details before deciding that such way is a good way is useless and goes nowhere, IMHO. Such nutshell could be, for example: "Userboxes which are useful to Wikipedia's goals are to be kept in template space, standarized and categorized by a guideline. All the other userboxes need to go from template space." What does this imply? Not that other userboxes need to be moved. Or deleted. Just that they don't pertain to Wikipedia's efforts towards encyclopedic content. People already has thousands of userboxes in the user space. You've separated the problem into two smaller pieces; one is useful userboxes, and other is the other irrelevant or unencyclopedic userboxes. Later, once a consensus on the first part is reached, a second guideline could be created, which addresses the usage of userboxes and how users can use their own user space. Probably with expanding just a little the current guideline is enough, so it specifically covers userboxes, but not necessarily with too much detail. Wether such expansions condemns or allows userboxes (and how) should be reached thru a consensus, of course.

My current point of view is that userboxes can exist on template space, only if they are directly useful for Wikipedia; for example, babel boxes, sister Mediawiki projects, and Wikipedia projects. Maybe other userboxes which prove to be useful with consensus about it can later be treated in the same way; I'm thinking that expertise userboxes (without needing to be attached to a particular project) could be useful for locating people being able to help on certain articles. Wikipedia projects with userboxes should move them to template space. These userboxes should be categorized and listed in the Wikipedia space, so people can use it in a more or less official way.

For the rest of userboxes, if they can coexist peacefully with the people (i.e. not necessarily NPOV but not divisive or political either), they should live in user space. Categorization and listing should be done entirely in user space. As someone adopts an userbox, someone could also adopt a page which lists userboxes from a certain category, while allowing other users to list more userboxes, move them from category, etc. Someone could also adopt a page which lists all these categories, with users (not necessarily the user which has this page) maintaining such list and links, proposing moves, new categories, merging lists, detecting duplicates, standarising them, and catching orphan userboxes and userbox lists into the userproject. How this can be achieved is left to users; userboxes are popular, and somehow an arrangement can be made when a policy on userboxes solves all the current chaos. You can see that happening right now, but there's not a coordinated effort, or a centralized place where you can really say "here you can find the vast majority of userboxes".

That's only my opinion anyway, I'm still quite noob and I might be lacking a global scope on these issues. I hope I've not offended anyone! I'm just a bit frustrated about all this. If you have something to comment or add about this paragraph, please do so in my talk page, thanks.

In the meanwhile, I've created a handful userboxes, but I am not listing them anywhere (except in the new userboxes list). Of course, anyone is free to happily use them.

The userboxes themselves

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These are the userboxes I've created so far. I've subst'ed them to avoid double inclusion in their categories.

Userbox Template Description
This user plays Tetris
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/TetrisAlt}} This is a modified version of another tetris userbox because the original one was too hard for me to read. Yes, I have a color perception problem.
Using this userbox adds the user to the category of Wikipedians who play Tetris.
This user is an ex-smoker.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Ex-Smoker}} Again a modified version of another non smoker userbox, but instead of specifying "non smoker", it says "ex-smoker". I thought it was useful to make the distinction.
Using this userbox adds the user to the category of Non-smoking Wikipedians.
28This user waits for Akira to
come, because Neo-Tokyo is
about to E•X•P•L•O•D•E
.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Akira}} For the fans of Katsuhiro Otomo's manga and film Akira. Not very good, but better than nothing.
This user only sees well with the heart, because what is essential is invisible to the eye.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/The Little Prince}} TLP is my favourite book, so I made a little box with a heart.
This user can hear the sound of Tubular Bells.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Tubular Bells}} Oldfield is one of my fav musicians. Too bad there's not a tubular bells symbol at Commons.
O2This user needs more Oxygene to survive to the next Equinoxe.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Oxygene Equinoxe}} Jarre is another of my fav musicians. I was inspired by his two first works, which are common english words but with an extra e.
This user still digs Cocytus.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Digs Cocytus}} The Dig is a LucasArts game with almost no slapsticks, so I thought hard of making one (although it's a quite bad wordplay) for this fan userbox.
Big Brother is watching this user.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Big Brother}} I didn't like the current 1984 userbox, so I've made this one. I don't like it too much either, I wish there was a good "big brother" or 1984 symbol in Commons.
This user is interested in Pi.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/Pi}} Well, guess what, with a nickname as mine, I actually do like the number Pi!
This user thinks that the best science fiction film ever made
is 2001: A Space Odyssey.
{{User:Pi72/Userboxes/2001 Yellow}} I quite disliked all the userboxes from Category:Wikipedians who like 2001: A Space Odyssey, so I made a similar layout of one of the versions of the logo, but not the same, in SVG. I also made it yellow, so it does remind of the version used in some UK posters.
Using this userbox adds the user to the category of Wikipedians who like 2001: A Space Odyssey.

To have it handy, this is the starting code I use to start an userbox template:

{{Userbox
  |border-c = black
  |border-s = 1
  |id-c     = white
  |id-s     = 14
  |id-fc    = black
  |id-p     = 0px
  |id-lh    = 1em
  |info-c   = white
  |info-s   = 9
  |info-fc  = black
  |info-p   = 6px
  |info-lh  = 1em
  |id       = ID
  |info     = This is an [[WP:UBX|<span style="color:navy">'''userbox'''</span>]].
}}

<includeonly>[[Category:Cat|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>
<noinclude>
<p style="clear: both; padding-top: 1em">
This template adds the page to the following categories:
* [[:Category:Cat]]
[[category:Original Wikipedian userboxes]]
</noinclude>