Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas C. Mann

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The result was: promoted by Gilderien Converse|List of good deeds 22:35, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thomas C. Mann

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~~... that Lyndon B. Johnson "stunned" the Kennedys in December 1963 by appointing Thomas C. Mann (pictured) to two powerful positions in the State Department?~~

Reviewed: Huronia Regional Centre (in progress)
Comment: Ideal days to run this hook: December 14 or December 21. The source for the hook (including the quotation, "stunned") is Walter LaFeber; the passage is available from Google Books. Note: image is a closeup from the one used in the infobox.

5x expanded by Groupuscule (talk). Self nominated at 01:00, 15 October 2013 (UTC).

5x expansion verified. Image public domain. Adding links to LBJ and State Dept in hook. Issue regarding the hook. The article text says that the appointment was opposed by "liberal supporters of Kennedy, including Senator Hubert Humphrey". The quote contained in Ref #16 below says it was the Kennedys as well, but not not which one(s). Bobby? Ted? We need some clarification before this can run, I think. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments and apologies for the delayed response. I have expanded that section a little bit to include a quotation from Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., who may have to some degree originated this narrative about the Mann appointment. I would propose:

Alt1 ... that Lyndon B. Johnson's dual appointment of Thomas C. Mann signaled a major change to the Kennedy administration's Latin America policy?
or Alt2 ... that Lyndon B. Johnson's dual appointment of Thomas C. Mann (pictured) was called "a declaration of independence, even perhaps a declaration of aggression against the Kennedys"?
or even Alt3 ... that Lyndon B. Johnson's promotion of Thomas C. Mann (pictured) gave rise to the "Mann Doctrine", followed by a military coup in Brazil?

Or something else, I'm open-minded, but I'd like to focus on the Johnson appointment(s) so we can run the hook on one of those 50-year anniversaries! aloha! ~ groupuscule (talk) 15:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Striking the original hook. I don't see ALT1 explicitly in the text, so we can't use that. I can give ALT 2 and ALT3 the checkmark. My preference is ALT2 – Muboshgu (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Muboshgu.

Please run (either Alt2 or Alt3) on December 14! groupuscule (talk) 02:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)