Talk:Ya Kun Kaya Toast/Archive 1

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why is this tagged? we might as well tag chain as well18.138.1.34 (talk) 20:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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—Northamerica1000^(talk) 16:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

References that may be incorporated into this article

From the current AfD discussion occurring for this topic, posted by User:Metropolitan90:

• The Telegraph
• Channel News Asia
• New Zealand Herald
• El Universal (Mexico)
• Aftenposten (Norway)

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 00:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Result of peer review of article.

I could be a poor reviewer but I find no very negative remarks to make about the current state of the article. It uses print sources, true, and three of them from the same book, William Koh (2010), "The Top Toast", which may be a problem, but not much of one. I came away from this article with a sense of understanding and having learned something, not once suspecting that I might be reading PR materials. It is a well-written article of good length and detail.  / Per Edman 10:33, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

I do believe that there are some PR problems with the article. It really does rely on the Koh book. without seeing the Koh book, I have no way of telling whether it is a reliable source, but some of the things cited by it seem promotional. " the stall developed a reputation for delicious kaya toast and friendly service, with Ah Koon frequently offering free meals to the poor" doesn't seem to be neutrally worded. I'd cut the article by half, put in some of the references in the above section, and cut out anything that looks like it was written by a public relations person. Smallbones (talk) 11:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments, PerEdman and Smallbones! William Koh is a professor at the National University of Singapore Business School and his book analyses business practices in the kaya toast industry in Singapore, focusing on Ya Kun because it is the dominant player. It is thus a reliable source, not promotional in nature and far more comprehensive regarding corporate culture than the newspaper articles. Nevertheless, I will see how I can reword phrases that are potentially promotional and reduce the reliance on the Koh book as a source (which may entail adding more Chinese references). Some of the potentially promotional information was included to provide context for readers unfamiliar with Chinese culture. Should I similarly provide some information about the Koh book in the Corporate culture section (for example, "according to National University of Singapore Business School professor William Koh")? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 13:40, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ya Kun Kaya Toast/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tomcat7 (talk · contribs) 11:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

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• Suggest converting Singaporean dollar to US dollar--Tomcat (7) 21:09, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Unclear text

@Hildanknight: I do not understand what "but high rents and renovation of Lau Pa Sat in 1984 sparked a return to the Telok Ayer Market" mean. Could you rephrase or reword the entire sentence? Lau Pa Sat is another name for Telok Ayer market, isn't it? "sparked a return" means Ya Kun returned to the Market, or Ya Kun raises its prices of products? Or that the market was neglected? I'm sorry having difficulty understanding. 175.156.242.240 (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Good question. They shifted across the road, from Lau Pa Sat to the Telok Ayer Transit Food Market. Perhaps I should make that clearer in the article. --Hildanknight (talk) 15:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I thought you should, since it is obstructing me from writing it in another language. 175.156.242.240 (talk) 17:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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