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weight

is wolverine really heavy? or doesn't adamantium weigh much? IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 04:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

According to all of his various profiles in OHOTMU styled books, he weighs 195 pounds naturally. Factor in the fact that he's barely over 5 feet in height and that he's obviously very fit, he has the appearance of someone that's heavier than he actually is. However, in the same character profiles, he's listed as weighing 300 pounds with the Adamantium bonded to his skeleton, which means the Adamantium bonded to his skeleton weighs 105 pounds itself.Odin's Beard (talk) 13:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I just read, and then lost track of a Wolverine comic where it is stated he has 'twenty pounds of metal' inside his body. I'll try and track down the issue. Lots42 (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I heard that the adamantium weights at LEAST 50 lbs. (JoeLoeb (talk) 16:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC))

Healing Factor and "Psychic Scar Tissue"

In regards to the insert about Logan's "psychic scar tissue", I remember reading in an earlier comic, in regards to his memories (I think it was during the storyarc where Sabertooth goads him into returning to the Weapon X compound with a fake tape that supposedly held all the answers to his lost history), that his amnesia (or at least part of it) was caused by his healing factor suppressing or erasing them to prevent the stresses associated with those memories from harming him. Is there any truth to this? 68.58.148.71 (talk) 04:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The "psychic scar tissue" is something that's been stated only once, though it's been in a very recent comic book. I think an issue of the Wolverine: Origins title. As to the storyarc you're mentioning, I think it took place in Wolverine vol.2 #174-177. It reveals that Wolverine's healing factor may sort of scab over certain memories of traumatic events in his life, which is why, prior to him getting all his memories back as a result of the House of M storyarc, he could only remember bits and pieces of his life. As far as the "psychic scar tissue", it's something he mentiones when Emma Frost tries to enter his head, only to be shocked at finding out that she's not able to. It makes his mind difficult to read and control.Odin's Beard (talk) 19:41, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Good ref

[1] Explains a lot of crap all in one article. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 06:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

First Appearance

First appearance listed here is not the same as on First Appearance.72.152.137.228 (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia literally goes by the very first appearance of a comic book character as being the character's first appearance. Wolverine appeared on the last page of Incredible Hulk #180 so, technically speaking, it's his first appearance.Odin's Beard (talk) 18:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Fictional?

This article does not state whether or not Wolverine is in fact a fictional character. I do not know enough about the character to definitively claim that he is, in fact, a fictional character, so if with expertise on the subject could clarify that would be great. ``BGOATDoughnut (talk) 00:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Someone must've removed it. Ummmm.... he has the strength of 10 men, senses sharper than most animals, his bones are laced with a metal so strong that it can withstand nuclear blasts, retractable blades in his arms that are made of the same stuff and he could literally regrow his ass if someone were to blow it off. It's a safe bet that he's fictional. Not many guys running around that fit that description.Odin's Beard (talk) 01:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you good sir, you have saved me from months of confusion. :) ``BGOATDoughnut (talk) 05:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Family

I recently added a section detailing Wolverine's family and it was just deleted? Why? I've seen other comic characters like Two-Face get a family section. The person commented that it was full of "alleged" and that the Dog/Sabretooth section was confusing. If someone would like to help me reword it, by all means do so, but I think a family section would be an improvment to his fictional bio. Emperor001 (talk) 17:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Before we begin anything do you have a set of references to mention concerning his family relations. References for each member concerning their connection to Wolverine. I could provide such for Daken as I follow the Wolverine Origins series but the others I couldn't help with. As for the Dog/Sabretooth section, I believe it should be left out as they are positivly two seperate people. Thefro552 (talk) 20:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I was browsing by uncannyxmen.net today, going through their issue summaries section to be exact, and I came across this [2]. This puts an end to the speculation that Dog Logan and Sabretooth could be the same person. As far as Wolverine's family goes, there's not really too much of them mentioned in the comics, at least with the exception of Daken, unless you count profiles that've been found in recent editions of the OHOTMU that've been put out over the past 4 or 5 years. In those profiles, the names of his family members are listed. John Howlett, for instance, is listed as his father in spite of his physicaly resemblance to Thomas Logan as an adult.Odin's Beard (talk) 22:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

My only references would be the comics and the movie. I suppose Dog and Sabretooth could get separate bullets. One that would list Dog as a potential brother (as the comics never resolved Wolverine's paternity, the profile you quoted is probably going under presumed paternity) and one bullet to list Sabretooth as his brother in the movie. We could then list both Howlett and Logan as fathers. Howlett as the legal father (and possibly the real father where comics are concerned) and Logan as the real father (so far as the films are concerned, possible in the comics). Emperor001 (talk) 02:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

But that's the thing. This article is for the Earth-616 continuity of the character. The X-Men Origins: Sabretooth one-shot verifies that Sabretooth and Dog Logan aren't the same person. In Wolverine's latest OHOTMU profile, it doesn't even mention Dog as being a relative. It lists Old Man Howlett as his grandfather, John Howlett as his father, Elizabeth Howlett as his mother, John Howlett II as his brother, Daken as his son and I think it also lists Amiko as his foster daughter. Doesn't say anything about "possible" or "potential". If it did, that'd be speculation and shouldn't go in the article to begin with. Listing Thomas and Dog Logan as relatives isn't accurate. This particular OHOTMU info has nothing to do with powers or power stats, it's part of the character history which is currently reliable. If Marvel decides to retcon something in Wolverine's past regarding his paternity in the future, changes can always be made. Now, since nothing has taken place in the comics to contradict that, Marvel's current stance is that Thomas Logan isn't Wolverine's father, Dog isn't his brother and Sabretooth and Dog are different people. Now, in the article for the Wolverine film, Thomas Logan is his father and Dog and Sabretooth are the same. Maybe a Family section that lists those facts can be put into the movie's article, maybe also in the alternate versions of Wolverine and Wolverine in other media articles.Odin's Beard (talk) 02:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Plus, didn't Dog end up with three scars across his face? Sabretooth has a healing factor. Lots42 (talk) 00:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Logan name

I have been doing edits on unrelated Scottish clan articles. On looking up, drawing, and then adding the old chiefly arms of Clan Logan, I noticed a curious coincidence with the marvel characters name, his claws, and the Logan of that Ilks coat of arms. See image hereto. Is this just a coincidence, or are the Scottish chief of Logan's arms an inspiration for wolverine, also known as Logan? Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 09:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not gonna definitely rule it out, but I've never heard anything from Wolverine's creators regarding this connection, so my first thought is that it's a cool coincidence. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Wild, wild, wild speculation. Nothing more. Nothing less. Does not belong in any encyclopedia... unless you can find a reliable source that inicates that the writers decided to base a Canadian mutant upon a Scottish coat of arms. Which you probably won't.

I could easily state that Marvel's Cyclops was the inspiration behind Futurama's Leela. They are both mutants. Both have members of their species who are forced to live in the sewers due to their appearance. They both are leaders, excellent fighters and are based around the idea of the mythological creature cyclops. The two of them are both expert pilots. They both have red heads as a romantic interest. They both were raised to believe that they were orphans, only to learn later that it is not the case. Both are outranked only by old men who are professors. Both live in New York (or New New York, in the future). Both save the world.

But it is not true that Leela was based upon Scott Summers, and any similarities are just plain coincidence. You can find similarities anywhere if you really want to, or if you look hard enough. It is an interesting coincidence, though, the Logan thing.

Taming the berserker

The article already does a pretty good job of detailing what his berserker rage is, but something should probably be said about how easily he fell into that state in his early appearances and his efforts to control it. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 03:46, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

we'd need reliable secondary sources. ThuranX (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Not a mutated wolverine!

I recently saw an interview on Len Wein in which he said he had never intended Wolverine to be a mutated wolverine, and always knew he was a mutant. I have adjusted the section accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.32.234 (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

The section seemed to suggest something differently and there are a number of sources in the section you deleted to verify the info. Simply saying you read something doesn't qualify as a reliable source. When you make a claim that contradicts what's in the article, you have to back it up with proof. I've reverted your edit.Odin's Beard (talk) 18:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Death of Wolverine

I ahven't been following Wolverine that closely for the past few years, but in X-men back in Sept/October, they had a funeral for Wolverine because supposedly Deadpool "killed" him. Now I'm seeing Wolverine pooping up in X-men(Factor, Force) and Hulk comics. I missed some issues so can anyone explain what happened. There's also a "Dark Wolverine" that's part of Norman Osbourne's Dark Avengers crew. Please someone explain this by editing the article or posting a link. --24.158.163.128 (talk) 22:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I haven't followed Wolverine however I do follow the Hulk which makes me follow Red Hulk. In a semi-recent comic Wolverine showed up in a Red Hulk comic where he (Rulk) gathered a team of mercenaries to hunt down Domino. The X-Force all doning darker garbs and red eyes defended her. Wolverine was part of the defending team. The "Dark Wolverine" is Daken his son and was made to take his father's legacy in order to anger his father. Hope that helps --  Grimbear13 ►Talk  14:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes the article says hulk 180 was wolverines first appearence and sometimes it says 181. please clear this up. 180 was his first appearence, a cameo on the last page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.162.243 (talk) 23:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wolverage

Would it be notable to present this version in his history? Normally I wouldn't think so but since he was introduced in the Incredible Hulk in the first place, and is supposed to be long-lived and fought in the war with Captain America, I think that his involvement in the World War Hulks (combining Wolverine Healing with Hulk healing is another) is mega-notable! Nym (talk) 22:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)