Talk:Tesla Model Y

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When to make this a separate article

Musk si suppsoed to talk more about the upcoming vehicle this week. When will be the time to kill the redirect and make an actual article. L3X1 (distant write) 18:41, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At the least, they'd have to unveil it. -- 70.51.45.76 (talk) 10:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Car was unveiled in mid-March 2019, and people turned this into an article -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 15:56, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Compact or mid-size

There was an invisible comment in the article that i deleted that basically said why is the Model Y a compact crossover when it offers three-row seating. I'm here to clarify that a compact SUV could have a three-row seating. Mitsubishi Outlander and Nissan Rogue/X-Trail (T32) (was optional in North America until it was no longer offered as an option) are the examples. Also, it's not for adults. Andra Febrian (talk) 17:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Andra Febrian: Having 3 rows doesn't necessarily make it mid-size. I notic the IPs changed the Rouge and Outlander to mid-size. One of them was blocked I think. Ee2mba (talk) 19:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edmunds link spamming by user jhester

Please stop spamming Edmunds links. Examples:

Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:25, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see wp:coi for more info. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 21:02, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Visual or Source

On this article, it seems someone accidentally wrote source editing in the visual editing mode. It said "{{short description|Tesla electric compact crossover utility vehicle released in February 2027} Template:Infobox useless vehicle" Tesla_Model_Y

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrowsySpider200 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing Table Headers in Specification

The Specification Table Headers shows a model version as: "AWD (with 100 18 were)".

What does this mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicagoandy (talk • contribs) 13:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same. Look like AWD+Acceleration Boost? Diff Pmsyyz (talk)

Model Y Austin

Recent reports indicate the Austin’s factory is making Model Y cars there preceding the rollout of the trucks,

Either way, I want one. 2600:1700:156:48E0:142F:8D4C:C0D5:93A6 (talk) 23:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation

The Tesla Model Y started production at the Gigafactory Texas in late 2021. Deliveries are expected for Q2 and later 2022. This information is missing. Mrgarypeters (talk) 16:34, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrgarypeters: Do you have a reliable source that says this info? Otherwise it can't be added since there's no way to prove if it's true or not. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:38, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just Google "are tesla model y produced in texas" and you'll get several credible sources. Elon Musk has also spoken about it. Mrgarypeters (talk) 16:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrgarypeters: Provide a reliable source then. I'm not going to look for it for you. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:07, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry I'll fill the page with citations and references just for you. You must be from California. Mrgarypeters (talk) 17:13, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrgarypeters: Definitely not from California. Also, you have to provide a source for that info per WP:V ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:18, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well then don't worry about it. Leave it with partial inormation. Looks great for the site. Mrgarypeters (talk) 17:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrgarypeters: Alright then. Also, you're not going to guilt-trip me into letting you add unreferenced info. I am seeing some sources, however I"m not sure if they're reliable sources or not so I'm not going to use them since I don't know for sure. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We have been through this issue before with the other cars and factories. We only report production as happening when reliable sources are supplied that confirms that consumer cars from a particular factory have reached customers. Until then, there are several stages of pre-production, production testing, body in white testing, Beta-car testing, etc. before actual mass production occurs. These stages may or may not be notable, but must be reported as such. TGCP (talk) 23:18, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TGCP: Could you explain to me what "body-in-white" testing is since there doesn't appear to be a page on it in Wikipedia? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:22, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The timeline shows that Long Range RWD was never delivered, but as of April/May 2024 and today, they have started selling it. https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview ; https://www.autoweek.com/news/a60699961/2024-tesla-model-y-long-range-rwd/

What happened to the table with quarterly (or annual) production numbers?

There formerly was a table that showed some summary of quarterly (or annual?) production numbers. What happened to it?

Even if it was moved/merged into some other article, would be good to have a link to it in this article. N2e (talk) 03:31, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it was never here (?) Tesla does not report sales for the Model Y individually, they merged it with the Model 3. Andra Febrian (talk) 04:34, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. Well the Model Y is making up most of the volume now of the 3+Y together, and I've seen some industry media/analystdata public sources that have taken those Tesla numbers and teased out the mix from shipment count sampling, car registrations, and what not.

Either way, is just really odd to have the production volume info missing from this article, when it has been such a large volume vehicle, in many global markets.

Jalopnik's incorrect speculation on the "electrically operated" doors

User Mfixerer has been trying to add information (reverted by Andra Febrian) that without power occupants can be trapped in the car because the doors are "electrically operated", citing an article by Jalopnik. Jalopnik's speculation is nonsense, suitable for incorrectly suggesting that fatalities have been caused by this. From the Owner's Manual: "To open a front door in the unlikely situation when Model Y has no power, pull up the manual door release located in front of the window switches". Lklundin (talk) 10:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I provided two references. Do you have an independent reference that backs your statement? Mfixerer (talk) 11:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whether it's two references or 500 references doesn't change the fact that the Model Y does have a manual door release. Hence your statement is very misleading especially in the context of a Wikipedia article. Andra Febrian (talk) 11:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mfixerer: please read WP:BRD. It's okay to be Bold with an edit but when other strongly disagree with it then we Revert back to the previous version and have a Discussion on the talk page. After the discussion we make the article agree with the result of the discussion. This is standard procedure on Wikipedia for resolving disagreements. The alternative is edit wars we both sides revert each other until somebody dies of old age.

Reading the Jalopnik article, all it says is that there was a fire and 4 people were not able to get out. It does not say this was because the doors are electric. It's possible that the electric door mechanism failed due to the fire. It's also possible that the child safety locks were activated and that the driver panicked and did not unlock them. Or the people simply panicked (ie, due to the life threatening fire) and fell back to old habits from older cars and didn't push the new fangled door buttons correctly in their panic. You would be surprised how normally smart people do really dumb stuff in panic situations - I learnt this during fire warden training. Or any of 100 other reasons. The Jalopnik article is too vague to draw any conclusions from. WP:SYNTH says we need have references that are very clear about what they are saying - reading between the lines is not allowed.

The Forbes article is just a magazine saying that the Model Y is looking a bit old (this seems to be an American thing about need something new and shiny every year). There is nothing of substance and definitely no information about Tesla's real plans. WP:CRYSTALBALL rightly says that this lack of information has no place in an encyclopedia. Forbes are generally good references for economics and politics but outside of those areas they generally just give opinion pieces that lack solid information and are close to worthless. Stepho talk 11:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but the Owner's Manual is a WP:RS for how the Model Y is equipped with the mentioned safety mechanism. Otherwise, with such a discrepancy the Model Y would not have made it through homologation. Lklundin (talk) 12:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]