Talk:Russ Martin

Unsigned early discussion

Does anyone want to help me with the JD Ryan article? I've been trying to put it together the last week, but I'm having trouble trying to remember everything to put up there. Like his film work, the exact details of his radio work, college, earlier bits they had with JD(like his dad cremation, and the ensuing ash jokes), and even how the whole Grand Dragon thing came to be.

Isn't the proper quote "...enjoys salty language, dating outside his race and a hot cup of joe" or did I mis-hear that?

^The quote in the article is the original, but Russ has been known to use that variation as well.

^^ No, I heard him complaining one day that the quote they put on the billboards 'wasn't even the full quote' right after the billboards went up.

What ever happened to Spittleville? Did they abandon the project? There is only a link to the un-updated website at the bottom of the article, with no other mention of it. Trypsin24 09:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Why is Russ categorized (see bottom links on main page)in "LGBT people from the United States?" Is it because of the jokes about his time in prison?

Should be added that he announced on 5/29/07 that he proposed to Amy (via a message power-washed into the concrete by the pool) over the Memorial Day weekend and she accepted.

No, he took back Amy's engagement ring and said he had it erased. He's going to do it eventually but right now it seems he's never going to marry her. OrionTheMetalhead

From what I understand, he didn't take back the ring because he's taking back his proposal; he's just being an a-hole. Supposedly he hides the ring to punish her for various things. Then again, a lot of what's said on the show isn't necessarily real; a lot of Russ's personal life is either exaggerated or just made up for comedic purposes. I don't think he actually keeps the ring from Amy, he just says he does because it sounds funny.

Plus, I don't think it's all that relevant to put it in the article. Do people really need to know all the various details of the show? Maybe a section can be added about Russ's relationships or something, and "Amy" (not her real name, btw, but just a show name to protect her identity) can be mentioned, but I don't think it really needs to be mentioned the specifics of how he proposed, or what he's done since with the ring.Shnakepup 16:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Quote

You might want to spell too correctly in the quote: "Please don't waste Russ' time by telling him your name. He's far too busy and important and he won't remember it anyway"

I have found a TV show that did a segment on him http://www.russmartin.com/video/UPN21/index.htm I know it is on his site but it is the origanl video that aired on KTXA here in Dallas aclure —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Cleaning up the article to meet standards

After avoiding a possible deletion, I think anyone who is concerned with this article should put their money where their mouth is and help to make the article better. I think most of us agreed that while Russ is notable enough not to be deleted, his article still needs to be cleaned up.

There where a lot of links to sources posted both here and in the AfD. I plan on going through and trying to use those sources in the article. Will anyone help out? Shnakepup 14:43, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

"General Lee"

The claim that Russ owns a 1969 Dodge Charger made to resemble The General Lee needs to be substantiated. The link provided says nothing about it, and unless substantiation can be given, it should be deleted. --Schmendrick 18:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Done JW in TX 20:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Would this qualify:

http://www.dickdavid.com/2009/11/russ-martins-cars.html

BTW, he sold the Batmobile and Mach 5 and had a replica of the Munsters car made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.228.143 (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Arrest and vandalism

I submitted this page to be semi-protected at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection due to constant blanking of the Arrest section. It's noteworthy and easily referenced. I like Russ a lot but that doesn't mean his arrest shouldn't be noted. ♫ ψadems ♫ (talk) 17:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Good call. Rray (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. JW in TX (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible to add the arrest warrant pdf as an attachment? Dallaswriter (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral point of view concerning arrest

I know somebody keeps adding that the police wanted to make a "spectacle" of the arrest, that there was no investigation etc. and that he stated this on his talk show. Especially because this is a biography of a living person (see WP:BLP), there needs to at least be a source for that (he said it on his talkshow is not sufficient). Moreover, just because he said something about himself doesn't mean that the police actually did this. If this is an actual quote by him covered by secondary sources, then I'm quite happy for it to go in as such, but as I say, it needs independent secondary sources (see WP:RS) and it needs not to state this as fact but as an opinion of the subject. Also, regarding the additions of "Good Guy" and "Voice of Reason", can somebody please clarify what they mean? Because as it stands, given that somebody actually inserted "All Around Failure" previously, I assume these are just titles the editor holds for them, which of course wouldn't be appropriate for Wikipedia. If, however, they are actual titles, then of course I'm happy to have them back, but with sources cited. Thanks. --Jay _{Σεβαστός}^discuss 07:13, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Stop

If you would actually read through all the references I have posted, you'd know that I'm not making these edits without anything to base them on. The warrant is all the investigation they did. The interview states that there was no investigation. In regards to show titles, Voice of Reason is Dan's role on the show, Good Guy is Russ's role on the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Scottch (talk • contribs) 14:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi there Mr. Sottch. Thanks for replying here. With regards to the titles of them on the show, do you have a direct reference to that, as I couldn't find anything in the article currently? But it should be fine. As for the details of his arrest, I'm just not happy with putting in things like "To make a scene" or that there was no investigation, as these sound like absolutes when in fact they are quite controversial, opinionated statements made by the subject themselves. Of course, if you want to quote the interview directly (e.g. Martin affirmed that "They did it to make a scene"), then that would be fine too. Best, --Jay _{Σεβαστός}^discuss 14:47, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

It's in the interview. I've edited as such. Thanks for the ideas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Scottch (talk • contribs) 14:54, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Great, that looks a lot better. Cheers. --Jay _{Σεβαστός}^discuss 14:57, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Recruitment

Quick note to editors here. If you don't know, per this remark, Martin apparently talks about edits to his article on his show. So there may be recruitment going on; i have added a tag to the article to notify folks of that. Jytdog (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

There is absolutely no recruitment going on. Some of the more zealous fans will wander to the page from time to time and make changes, which get sorted out pretty quickly. Case in point the user you are talking about.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2015

Please change, "A year later, in 198,3 he was hired" to "A year later, in 1983, he was hired", due to a misplaced comma. TheRainKing14 (talk) 00:19, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done thanks Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2015

Please change, "In 2006 he formed "The Russ Martin Show Experience," a band" to "In 2006 he formed "The Russ Martin Show Experience", a band", due to a misplaced comma. TheRainKing14 (talk) 00:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 05:20, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Show page - current and former members

Any reason why the entire cast member section was deleted? Last I saw, all the titles and member names were accurate.

The current show cast is as follows:

Full Time: ==Russ Martin - Host, Boss Man, Executive Producer, portrays numerous characters on the show ==Dan O'Malley - Co-host, Weatherman, News Director, Voice of Reason ==Clo Raborn - Producer, Punching Bag ==Alfie Coy - Traffic, Call Screener, Punching Bag

Part Time: ==Kenzie "Chapman" - Video Producer, Punching Bag

Regular Guests ==Dr. Scott Thronton - Show Psychologist ==Everett Newton - Show Attorney ==Mark with Paws in the City

everything in Wikipedia is based on reliable sources. (see WP:RS) What is the source of that information? Jytdog (talk) 19:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

The source is Russ Martin, and the Russ Martin Show. There are no statements being made in a cast list, this shouldn't need hardcore sourcing.

please read WP:OR and WP:VERIFY - everything does need sourcing. that is a foundational policy of wikipedia and one of the things that keeps wikipedia from turning into a pile of garbage. Jytdog (talk) 19:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Trust me, I'm looking for sources so I can at least list the full cast. I'm trying to improve the page accurately.

great! Everything in wikipedia starts with sources. Jytdog (talk) 20:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm simply listing names, why does that need a source, there are no show titles, there are no statements about the people listed. No bias is being shown, no research is being done, there is no COI about listing names of people on a talk show. What edits can I do in order to just have the names listed?

hi Scottish - yep i believe you have no COI and are a fan. That's fine. On my talk page you wrote that i "just link things". Those things I link, are the policies and guidelines that govern what we do here. the plain english of it, is that you cannot just add stuff to an article. it needs to be based on some source so it can be verified That is how this place works. Jytdog (talk) 21:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can only agree with Jytdog. I know it sounds strange to someone who is just getting used to Wikipedia, but articles here are based on verifiability, not truth. If you can't verify something by attributing it to reliable sources, then it shouldn't be here. Please also have a look at WP:BLP, the policy concerning biographies of living people, as the criteria for said articles are even more stringent. Best wishes, --Jay _{Σεβαστός}^discuss 01:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:BLPSELFPUB His personal page IS Facebook, it contains a bunch of posts about those on the show past and present, along with show titles. Shouldn't I be able to use that since it is directly from the subject of the page? Also, Dr. Thornton has his own personal blog, could I use that as a source since it's his page? In regards to Kenzie, there is no other source other than the show itself as to what role she has on the show due to some of the rather..."eager" fans regarding her personal life. I'm just adding names, these are not major edits. This is just to clarify who is on the show regularly.Mr Scottch (talk)

Also found this section which will allow me to post what I've been trying to post. Directly from WP:RS

Definition of published

The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials, either in traditional printed format or online. However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or :::archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. Additionally, an :::archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet.

His show is broadcast on two radio stations, and the shows are uploaded to russmartin.fm, though you have to be a member to listen to them.

Also, I'll need help citing it, as the format listed in the template section is huge and I'm not sure which sections of the template are used for radio.