Talk:Religion in the Marshall Islands
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:Religion in the Marshall Islands/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Sahaib3005 (talk · contribs) 19:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello as per the request, I’ll be reviewing this. I’ll try my best, as the last time I attempted to review good articles they were overturned due to myself not reviewing them properly. Sahaib3005 (talk) 19:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 
- The spelling and grammar is good. The lead seems to be too short per the guidelines. The section headers "History of Religious Beliefs" should be changed to "History of religious beliefs" and "External Links & Further Reading" should be changed to "External links & further reading" per the guidelines.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- At the end of each sentence there should be a reference to a source (this excludes the lead which does not need sources if it is then verified in the body of the article), there is currently many sentences that do not do this such as "The belief in magic continues to play an prominent role in the daily life of the people of the Marshall Islands.", "However despite the influence of Christianity, many of the islanders did not completely discard their indigenous rituals and customs.", "There is no religious education in public schools, but school events and government functions typically begin and end with a Christian prayer.", "Although polytheistic, the religion had one higher god, one higher above the rest. According to James George Frazer, the Marshallese people respected this certain God, and offered him tributes like breadfruit, coconut, fish, etc.", "The Ahmadiyya Muslim community in the Marshall Islands has reported that it faces difficulties interacting with the government, as well as harassment in general society.", "Or, if a man would go out in search of food or fishing, he would have to offer something in his family's name to the gods. Some other deities they worshipped included spirits. It was believed that some types of spirits would appear in dreams or sometimes they possessed a body of a human in order to be seen in the flesh." If you can’t verify something, remove it.
The World Factbook seems reliable as it from the government. This source is reliable for the same reason. This source is a bit problematic because despite being from the government (which makes it most likely reliable) it seems to be missing information - this could be for many reasons including the fact that I do not live in the United States so some of the site might only be available for people in the United States, another possibility is that information was removed from the site (archived versions might be available on sites like the Wayback Machine or archive.today) or it could be that the source was wrongly attributed in the text or for some other reason (either way it is still problematic). mistories.org seems unreliable per WP:SELFPUB and should be removed (I would ask that you respond with reasons why it is reliable if you think it is reliable as it is not a clear cut situation.) WorldAtlas seems quite reliable (I could not find any reason for it not to be reliable, though like above it is not a clear cut situation.)
It appears to have no original research, apart from some sentences which read like opinions such as "The belief in magic continues to play an prominent role in the daily life of the people of the Marshall Islands." (as mentioned above), this sentence would be fine if it was sourced.
It doesn’t appear to be a copyvio or to be plagiarised.
- At the end of each sentence there should be a reference to a source (this excludes the lead which does not need sources if it is then verified in the body of the article), there is currently many sentences that do not do this such as "The belief in magic continues to play an prominent role in the daily life of the people of the Marshall Islands.", "However despite the influence of Christianity, many of the islanders did not completely discard their indigenous rituals and customs.", "There is no religious education in public schools, but school events and government functions typically begin and end with a Christian prayer.", "Although polytheistic, the religion had one higher god, one higher above the rest. According to James George Frazer, the Marshallese people respected this certain God, and offered him tributes like breadfruit, coconut, fish, etc.", "The Ahmadiyya Muslim community in the Marshall Islands has reported that it faces difficulties interacting with the government, as well as harassment in general society.", "Or, if a man would go out in search of food or fishing, he would have to offer something in his family's name to the gods. Some other deities they worshipped included spirits. It was believed that some types of spirits would appear in dreams or sometimes they possessed a body of a human in order to be seen in the flesh." If you can’t verify something, remove it.
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- The article seems broad enough considering there is not much sources (as far as I can tell from a quick google search) covering religion in the Marshall Islands.
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It seems to be neutral. But as I mentioned in the original research bit above, some of the sentences need to be referenced because if they are not then the artice would not really be neutral.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- File:Protestant_Church_at_Imroj_Island_on_Jaluit_Atoll.png should be removed because its has no known author and PD-Marshall Islands states "For this template to be applicable, it is not enough that a work be published in the Marshall Islands - the author must be a Marshallese citizen and not have any other citizenship, and they must be ordinarily resident in the Marshall Islands at the time of publication. If these factors are not all met, then the work can still have an enforceable copyright outside of the Marshall Islands. Additionally, unpublished works can be the subject of copyright outside the Marshall Islands." I would advise replacing it with a different image, there is quite a few here.
File:Marshall Islands PICT0445 (4744748285).jpg is fine because although on Flickr it states that it is licensed with "All rights reserved", the bot FlickreviewR reviewed it on the 1 April 2014 and confirmed it was licensed under cc-by-sa-2.0. This means that the author Christopher Johnson most likely changed the licensing, which doesn’t matter because the license is not revocable.
- File:Protestant_Church_at_Imroj_Island_on_Jaluit_Atoll.png should be removed because its has no known author and PD-Marshall Islands states "For this template to be applicable, it is not enough that a work be published in the Marshall Islands - the author must be a Marshallese citizen and not have any other citizenship, and they must be ordinarily resident in the Marshall Islands at the time of publication. If these factors are not all met, then the work can still have an enforceable copyright outside of the Marshall Islands. Additionally, unpublished works can be the subject of copyright outside the Marshall Islands." I would advise replacing it with a different image, there is quite a few here.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Overall, sadly I don’t think the article meets the GA guidelines. I’m not putting the article on hold because I think there is too many issues that need to be resolved. Before renominating this article for good article status make sure to apply the changes above (except if I’m wrong on a certain point, which is likely as everybody makes mistakes). Sahaib3005 (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I didn't create this article, just added upon it, but thank you on your comments. I will try to reach the guidelines and criteria so thank you for the overview and advice ! Imurmate I'ma editor2022 (talk) 22:50, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Also, concerning the mistories.org citations, I thought it was reliable as per the references and resources stated in the website (although I have not researched them), but I can research for more (if there is) reputable resources. Imurmate I'ma editor2022 (talk) 23:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
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