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Undated predictions

Can anyone explain why undated predictions should be mentioned. Almost all Christians believe Christ will return at some point - an undated prediction is not helpful in an article like this. Any objections to me removing them? Freikorp (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the undated predictions as I believe these are completely pointless. Freikorp (talk) 03:04, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Claimants

While we're at it, the 'Claimants' section also seems pointless to me. These mentions should either be integrated into the table or removed entirely. These mentions belong at List of people who have claimed to be Jesus (which is already mentioned in the 'see also' section, making it even more pointless to list certain people who claimed to be Jesus here). Any objections to removing that as well? Freikorp (talk) 13:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I propose we move this article to "List of predicted dates for the Second Coming of Christ", or something along those lines. I have recently removed the "Claimants" section as this information is available in much better detail as "List of people who have claimed to be Jesus". As this article is now accordingly just a list of dates I propose the name change. Comments or objections? Freikorp (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Millennium

There were already two predictions of Christ's Millennium in the article, so I have decided to add many more, with a disclaimer in the intro paragraph explaining that there are different theories as to when the Millennium is believed to occur in relation to the Second Coming. Any comments regarding this are welcome. Freikorp (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prediction deleted

The only prediction that will come to pass... and censors here deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.207.214 (talk) 05:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the value of this wiki page without context explanation?

May I suggest that someone adds the required context to place this in perspective, please? There are references in the Bible, like the book of Revelation I guess. Also Rudolf Steiner explains why the Bible texts cannot be understood in literal form with our current rational intellect (see the loss of Logos around 4th century), and why the second coming of Christ can never be a physical incarnation not just will be - but actually already is - in the etheric. The dozens of lectures given on the subject appear to me to be more informative than a listing which does not say what is meant and why. Especially empty statements by any person for any reason don't appear to be of very much value listing: who cares what unqualified people scream or state? The point is: these matters are not so easy to understand or make sense of without deeper study, at the level of empty popularized phrases they are of no meaning.

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This should be split into two articles

current and future predictions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:A702:EA85:21EF:DA6F:8F91:F42B (talk) 05:45, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How do you mean current? That the end of the world happens on June 26, 2022? I don't understand what you mean. tgeorgescu (talk) 10:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

“After 2025” will always be in the future

How are we gonna handle that? 82.36.70.45 (talk) 22:48, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jehovah’s Witnesses

JWs currently teach that Armageddon will occur during the lifetime of JWs “anointed” up to 1992 (or soon after). It’s not a specific date but it has a definite expiration in the next few decades (2060s at most, so it would be the latest date on this list). How can we include this? 82.36.70.45 (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source? 2A02:6D40:309A:E01:2404:440D:7763:1D39 (talk) 15:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Jang Rim missing

He predicted the world would end on October 28, 1992 and he's not on the list. I dont know how to add it properly HongCongo (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have returned. July 23rd 1982

im already here and saved many. I also have ancient native abilities. My name is Joshua. 2604:2D80:430A:4D00:6D13:BE62:FBD4:163E (talk) 12:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lorber's 2029 prediction should include scholarly consensus for Jesus' death, not birth.

His prediction notes that Jesus would return 2000 years after his crucifixion/death, so it is pointless to give context for when he was born as it does now. The consensus on his death is either 30 or 33 CE, this should be included but I don't how to properly do that. Ochrus (talk) 14:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]