Talk:Oklahoma State–Tulsa football rivalry

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Notability as rivalry

Because this article has sources from Oklahoma media dating back to 1982 discussing the football series between Oklahoma State and Tulsa, I think this football series meets the general notability guideline (as advised by WP:NRIVALRY). Thoughts, UW Dawgs? Arbor to SJ (talk) 00:21, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SIGCOV ~~policy~~ guideline includes If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. Do you believe a 1982 opinion quotation from Jimmy Johnson (then OSU head coach, a non-neutral party) is GNG-sufficient to characerterize this as a rivalry? UW Dawgs (talk) 01:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Johnson was quoted in The Oklahoman newspaper, a secondary, reliable source has provided plenty of coverage of the OSU-Tulsa football series as shown in the references. WP:RS is more about the references provided for the article, not people quoted. Arbor to SJ (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This edit[1] implicitly asserted that notability had been established by a lone citation in which "rivalry" appears only once (within the headline) while "series" appears five times in the article's body, and one other primary source citation which identifies this as a routine series (not a rivalry). The addition of a RS citation for Tulsa/Cooper and OSU/Johnson's conflicting 1982 personal opinions did not resolve the GNG sourcing issue. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've added two more news stories from the 1990s. Do they resolve the notability issue? Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't believe that represents "significant coverage" as called out above. The first cite is dominated by quotations of personal opinion and the second contains a single passing statement. UW Dawgs (talk) 05:58, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]