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Page move

This page should be moved to Nimrod (album) since a consensus was reached on Talk:Green Day that Nimrod was the correct name. A vandalism only editor moved the page here and every time I get the redirect page deleted so that I can move this page there, someone makes it back into a redirect. Tim meh ! 13:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I finally got it moved. If anyone disagrees, please see the discussion on the Green Day talk page. I think it's in the last archive. Tim meh ! 15:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the really bad copy-paste move - I didn't mean to have it go one way or the other, only to get it back to the most recent good version. --Cheeser1 (talk) 20:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WTF?

this article had a talk page.who deleted it?--Greenday21 (talk) 16:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

You mean there were more discussions? They're not in the history. Tim meh ! 20:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i remember arguing with someone about the album name here. (Nimrod nimrod nimrod. Nimrod).--Greenday21 (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

Cover?

Anyone know who the two "nimrods" on the cover are? Seems interesting.--Skaterkidd (talk) 2:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)Skaterkidd

Green Day mentioned the names on Recovery TV, but I Forgot. They are members of some band (NOT Blink-182)--Greenday21 (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

The portraits covered on the cover are Dwight Eisenhower and Harry S Truman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevron24 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any source for them being Dwight Eisenhower and Harry S. Truman? Just wondering, because Green Day said themselves that they were members of some band, and obviously Eisenhower and Truman aren't members of any band. So I was just wondering. --Blaguymonkey (talk) 12:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LAST ride in

what is the point of this song? why does it have a music video if it is not a single?

This isn't a forum were you ask things about the band and talk about them.--188.27.126.97 (talk) 08:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it kinda is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.11.174.161 (talk) 07:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No it actually isn't that would be for somewhere like reddit. St. Jimmy (talk) 22:18, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Name

what is the official name of the album anyway? On the cover it Says nimrod. but i dont think either the period or the fact that it is in lowercase should matter--Greenday21 (talk) 22:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

That's right. Names are correctly capitalised and stylistic preferences such as full stops and colons (as in Warning) are not necessary in an encyclopedia. Nouse4aname (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But Kerplunk! is the true name of the album (Import the CD to iTunes). --Greenday21 (talk) 23:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

Australian bonus tracks

Can someone create a section for the 4 bonus tracks on the Australian release? http://www.discogs.com/release/616560 —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowCrew (talk • contribs) 05:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC) --ShadowCrew (talk) 05:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wtf?

When you click on last ride in, it simply redirects back to the album. This should be fixed, either the link should be removed or a page should be created for that song. --Tsp greenday (talk) 05:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ska Punk

I think Ska-Punk should be removed. The album has only one ska-punk song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revilal90 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Genres

I removed Hardcore Punk, Ska (and added Ska Punk instead) and Surf Rock..the album has just one song of each, so you can´t really add them as genres.--Ogica1234 (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Why is the article titled Nimrod (Green Day album) but the talk page is just titled Nimrod (album)? Shouldn't they both be titled the same thing? --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, they should. Someone must have moved the article at some point without moving the talk page to match. I'll see if I can fix it. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed by moving the article to Nimrod (album). Since there are no other Wikipedia articles at present about albums titled "Nimrod", this was the best option. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: TheSpecialUser (talk · contribs) 04:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why not! — TheSpecialUser ^(TSU) 04:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reviews

Excellent work on the album so far!

Thanks :) Basilisk4u (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel - Can you do it as it is in Uno!?

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Track listing - ref for "Japanese version" and "Australian version"?

I'm not exactly sure where to find a source for this. It seems that 21st Century Breakdown doesn't have sources for its alternate releases either. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ALT for the images

What should I change about them? It is very common for articles to have pictures with captions like that, see Achtung Baby for example, a featured article. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ALT helps people who are "colour blind" to know about the picture. The ALT caption will make no change whatsoever to the caption or picture for normal people. For example, in ALT, you have to describe that what is in the image, like stating how does the Coverart look or how is Billie performing.

Oh! Haha my mistake. I have done the ALT captions now. Basilisk4u (talk) 05:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The section directly starts with the mention of Time of your life. Have a look at 21st Century Breakdown. Add little bit for the intro to the section and move the 1st section in the current version as the 3rd such that The Nimrod promotional tour began in the fall of 1997, and this becomes the start of the section

I moved the paragraph, but I'm not sure what kind of intro I should add. This is all the information I could find. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

repair damages -> repair the damages caused

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the tour in promotion of the album, Green Day aimed for simplicity and decided not to bring new instrumentalists to play for the new songs -> During the tour, for promotion of the album, Green Day aimed for simplicity and decided not to bring new instrumentalists to play the new songs

With all due respect, I think this correction changes the meaning of the sentence a bit. The band didn't aim for simplicity in order to promote the album. They just happened to aim for simplicity while on tour in promotion of the album. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Nimrod tour marked the first time the band performed its now-routine ritual of inviting audience members onstage to play instruments -> The tour marked for the first time, the band performing their now-routine ritual of inviting audience members onstage to play instruments

I'm not sure what this new sentence means exactly. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)" appeared in numerous events in popular culture, -. "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)" appeared in numerous events of popular culture,
Nimrod debuted at number ten on the Billboard 200, selling 81,000 copies in its first week of release. The album remained on the chart for 70 weeks -> Nimrod debuted at number ten on the Billboard 200, selling 81,000 copies in its first week of release, and remained on the chart for 70 weeks

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In Canada, the album peaked at number four, remaining on the chart for four weeks. - link canada

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

link Australia too

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

adding: - adding,
a full horn section - what does that mean? either clarify or replace or link to relevant article

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC) Removed "full"[reply]

Sandy Masuo of the Los Angeles Times likened "Worry Rock" to the music of Elvis Costello - move it such that it becomes the 3rd sentence

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The band also became homesick as life on the road forced the members to leave behind their wives and young children. Green Day eventually decided to cancel the late 1996 European leg of the Insomniac tour to take time off to spend with their families - interchange "The band" and "Green Day"
homesick as life on the road forced the members to leave behind their wives and young children - not quite a good way to say it. Link to homesick, change "life on road" to "fame" and "tours", and "wives and young children" to "family" and "personal life"

If I change "wives and young children" to "family", it would have two sentences in a row ending with "family" and it is a bit repetitive. The source says that all of the members had wives and young children at the time, so I personally think it is appropriate to use. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, User:Blaguymonkey has taken care of it. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is it for now. I haven't checked the "lead" and "Recording and production" which I'll do tomorrow and then refs. Say hey-oh! come on... →TSU ^tp* 16:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1 more thing, it is stated that Time of Your life was written for BJA's GF and Shes a rebel was also written for her. Well, "She", was also written related to her. Thus add it also if you get any source. I'll give out final fixes needed tomorrow. Thanks TheSpecialUser ^TSU 15:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Basilisk4u (talk) 18:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The only left- copyright issue

I loved your choice of samples to upload but their beat rate is too high. A 64kbps is okay. Thus either remove both files or replace the sample with low beat of 64kbps. Thanks! TheSpecialUser ^TSU 08:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for passing the article! I am not an expert at the sample area so I may need to find someone who can help me with that, but I will definitely work on it. Thanks again :) Basilisk4u (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is from where I got the sample for Oh Love, http://media.io/ Probably you can use it too (low quality of 96 kbits is enough :) TheSpecialUser ^TSU 16:52, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BLOWING SALES

the sales are blowing !

it has not sold 10 million copies

it was shipped 2xPLATINUM 2,000,000 COPIES in the US and in the UK 300,000 PLATINUM

we talk here about shipments not sold copies

it s impossible that this album has sold despite the 2 million copies 8 million copies worldwide it impossible

in some important markets like GERMANY and france it was a flop and sold not even 100,000 total

where come those 10 million copies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.15.236.207 (talk) 13:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Prosthetic Head

wasnt Prosthetic Head a promo single?^[1]^[2] St. Jimmy (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.greendaydiscography.com/prosthetichead.php
^ Prosthetic Head (track listing). Green Day. Reprise Records. 1998. PRCD 937.{{cite AV media notes}}: CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) (link)

Anniversary Tracklist

The band has revealed the track list for the bonus discs, but every time that I put the tracklist on the page someone just reverts it to the one released song as of now? The full list has been revealed for both the live album AND the demo album. Other albums get the full list put on their page the second the tracks are confirmed. Jirachibi (talk) 04:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ALTTRACKLIST and for convenience's sake only new tracks should be inserted; do not add previously released tracks, live versions, etc. QuestFour (talk) 09:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@QuestFour WP:ALTTRACKLIST says to "Include track listings for alternative editions only when they are significantly different." Many of the listed demos are previously unreleased, and unmentioned in this wikipedia article, but have been mentioned in numerous credible articles. The listed track number is also incorrect here, as "You Irritate Me" is listed as demo track #8, while all other demos are listed on the source. Based on your provided article, the previously unreleased demos at the least should be included here. PopDisaster182 (talk) 16:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to the sources the only other previously unreleased songs are "Tre Polka" and a cover of Elvis Costello's "Allison", but those have not been released yet; until they're released, either as standalones or with the album, and their length's been revealed, there's no reason to include them at this time. QuestFour (talk) 01:37, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is incorrect. While the source directly lists the songs you mentioned, there are no records of the following songs being released on any of the band's past releases either:

Place Inside My Head
Alison
You Irritate Me
Tre Polka
Chain Saw
Black Eyeliner

PopDisaster182 (talk) 18:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the Background part, it says, “Speaking of Insomniac,”.

I believe this to be unlike Wikipedia, and the following quote seems irrelevant. Dolphinian6 (talk) 03:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.greendaydiscography.com/prosthetichead.php

[2] Prosthetic Head (track listing). Green Day. Reprise Records. 1998. PRCD 937.{{cite AV media notes}}: CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) (link)

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