Talk:Nationals

Rationale for move

A Google search for "Nationals" indicates the MLB team as by far the highest-ranked target for the word. Searches at [1] for September 2009 indicate that Washington Nationals was viewed 16,249 times, vs. a combined 6,707 views for Syracuse Nationals (1,181), National Party of Australia (4,706), and Potomac Nationals (which wasn't listed here at all until now) (820). The other two articles linked here are more popular, but less likely to be looked for using the search term "nationals". Propaniac (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationals (disambiguation) → Nationals — "Nationals" currently redirects to the Washington Nationals, which I don't think is the primary topic. Outside of the United States, the baseball team is not very well known. In New Zealand and Australia, it is much more common for the term to refer to politicians; members of the governing New Zealand National Party and the National Party of Australia. In other English-speaking countries, "nationals" usually refers simply to the concepts of nationality and citizenship, such as UK nationals. The Celestial City (talk) 16:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support "nationals" is primarily the plural of "national", as in the example provided of "United Kingdom national". Also the NP of Aus and NZ is likely in those locales. 76.66.202.72 (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I would guess the primary meaning of the term depends on the English-speaking country, as explained. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The editor from IP 76.66.202.72 above has it right: the primary usage of "nationals" is for the collection of citizens, residents, and so forth associated with a particular nation. We don't have any one good target for this sense, so we ought to make the disambiguation page immediately available for those who think we might. — Gavia immer (talk) 05:24, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Only five links to the National redirect seemed at a glance likely to be properly directed from baseball articles, all biographical entries. On examination only two were baseball articles and I have revised those two out of existence; they no longer appear at What links here? The three remaining links from biographies are misdirected. Two mean the plural for "national" as in UK national. One means the nickname for national-level sporting competition. So they should not link to Washington Nationals (disambiguation) or to Washington Nationals.

National-level competition may be the primary meaning in US American English: "nationals" as a nickname for national meet, tournament, games, championships; and similarly for "states", "countys", "citys", "regionals", "districts", "locals", "collegiates", "NCAAs", "Pan-Americans", and of course "Olympics". Those aren't strictly plurals and I wouldn't expect to find any encyclopedia entries for them, with or without the final s.)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.