Talk:NTV (TV channel)
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Quite a mess
[edit]I'm attempting cleanup, but this article is quite a mess. One of the worst problems is that, at least in some cases, there are external links inline, presumably intended as citations, that do not seem to provide references for the material that precedes them. For example, the link at the end of the first paragraph under "History" does not even mention most of the personal names in that paragraph.
I'll do what I can on this over the next few days, but I know only a little about the subject, and someone who knows the topic will have to sort out most of the citation issues; I can mainly handle editorial issues here. (I do have some citations to bring from print sources, something the article has been sorely lacking.) - Jmabel | Talk 05:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Novaya Gazeta
[edit]I notice that we have citation links to both http://novgaz.ru and http://novayagazeta.ru/. Are both of these sites the well-known and well-respected Novaya Gazeta? Any idea what is up with the two distinct Internet domains? - Jmabel | Talk 19:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- WHOIS and DNS records show that the same organization registered the names novayagazeta.ru and novgaz.ru in 1998 and 2002 respectively and pointed them to the same servers.ilgiz (talk) 07:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Transliteration
[edit]I notice that we use Yevgeniy Kiselyov. This is doubtless very "correct", but I believe his name is much more often written in English as Yevgeny Kiselev. That is certainly Index on Censorship's preferred spelling. Perhaps we should use that? - Jmabel | Talk 04:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see both spellings pop up in the Google search. CNN preferred Kiselyov, PBS spelled it Kiselev, both as Yevgeny. I wonder if it is OK to have more than one spelling in English for the same name because both are approximations to the Cyrillic spelling. After all, it is not the single spelling of a name that identifies the person, and various registries should be flexible enough to reflect this.ilgiz (talk) 07:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it is common to have multiple transliteration. Normally, the way we (Wikipedia) do this is that we place the transliteration we believe is most common as the title of the article about the person, redirect the others to that, and (usually, but not always) mention them all in the lead paragraph. Then we use the one that matches the article name when we refer to it elsewhere. In this case, we don't yet have an article. - Jmabel | Talk 14:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Very confusing wording
[edit]"...came to Gusinsky's home, distrained and arrested his property":
- there is no word "distrained", I hesitate to guess at the meaning
- one does not normally "arrest" property, one arrests a person.
What exactly occurred? I sure can't tell from the text here, and there is no citation.- Jmabel | Talk 05:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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- OK, it exists, but it's still very obscure. - Jmabel | Talk 06:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Anything can be arrested, individuals, property, bank accounts ;) BanRay 22:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- Technically true, but not at all common usage. - 06:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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internal censorship
[edit]This is interesting - about the internal censorship that goes on in NTV.Malick78 (talk) 21:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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