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More Cowbell was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 31, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
May 20, 2008	Good article nominee	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

Requested move 7 March 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. This encyclopedia could use some more cowbell. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 02:12, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recording Session (More Cowbell) → More Cowbell – WP:COMMON NAME. Nobody calls it "Recording Session", not even NBC, as the article notes. Most of the sources here call it the more cowbell sketch. JFH (talk) 22:04, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. This article was at More Cowbell or More cowbell from its 2005 creation until its recent undiscussed move on 12 Feb. Station1 (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly per More Cowbell (and nom, and longtime name) Randy Kryn 02:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The Jungle Book (2016 film) reference

In The Jungle Book (2016 film) a cowbell rouses Christopher Walken. Should this be in the pop culture section? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:56, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not, unless you have a reliable source that connects it directly to this sketch as some kind of inside joke. Otherwise, it would be considered WP:OR. Station1 (talk) 22:15, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Station1. I saw this and this and this and there may be more. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:49, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And [1], [2], and [3]. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:50, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well in that case, go for it! Station1 (talk) 23:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Splendid. :) I'm just off to bed. I will within a couple of days unless you (hint hint :)) or someone else does. Best wishes and many thanks for the guidance. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Correction on authorship of the sketch

According to this oral history of the sketch, with all of the major participants discussing its creation, the Saturday Night Live cast and director all appear to agree that the sketch was written by Chris Parnell, who revised it over the course of several years. The Wikipedia entry inaccurately attributes its writing to Will Farrell. Instead, his major contribution conceptually, aside from his performance, was deciding to wear a shirt that was too small, exposing his belly as he played the cowbell. As one of the most famous comedy sketches of all time, it seems like credit should be accurately given to the actual writer, Chris Parnell, who worked on it for several years' time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.130.226.113 (talk) 06:01, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you read that article a little more carefully, you'll see it was written by "Asher and John Try Comedy". It was written by a pair of comediennes. The whole article is written rather tongue-in-cheek, contains some rather outlandish "facts", and is, in my opinion, a work of fiction. Unless you have some other source that says that Parnell wrote the script, rather than Farrell, I think you should just ignore the above "source". Gcronau (talk) 23:20, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion to change article image

Currently, the photo at the top of the article is of Christopher Walken (as Bruce Dickinson). While he is a prominent character featured in the sketch, it seems prudent that the article for More Cowbell have the titular cowbell prominently on display. Additionally, a photo of the band playing is more representative of the sketch as a whole than one zoomed in on Walken alone.

Ideally, a shot featuring all characters would be used, although the low resolution of the video in most of its available locations, combined with the artifacts associated with the video, mean that most wide shots ultimately do a poor job at recognizably portraying the characters.

Using the official YouTube upload of the sketch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s) a good candidate for a title image can be found at 1:09, immediately when the camera changes shot (use comma and period keys to shift frame-by-frame). The first frame after the cut nicely represents Will Ferrell preparing to strike the cowbell and prominently features his character, the cowbell, and the lead singer, who is irked by the cowbell-playing. This therefore serves as a better representation of the sketch than Walken.

The photo of Walken would, however, work well if moved down to live alongside the Synopsis section.

Placement in the episode

I have removed this: "The sketch was put near the end of the episode, where more offbeat/odd sketches often air."

This is not true. I have a recording of the original broadcast and it's the very first sketch after Walken's monologue. You can see a timestamp here. Soulnus (talk) 08:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Correction for the names of the guys in the band

From the end of the first paragraph: "The sketch also features Chris Parnell as Eric Bloom, Jimmy Fallon as Bobby Rondinelli, Chris Kattan as Buck Dharma, and Horatio Sanz as Joe Bouchard."

Bobby Rondinelli is not correct as the drummer, played by Jimmy Fallon. The original "Don't Fear the Reaper" recording featured all the original members of the band. The correct drummer/percussionist was Albert Bouchard, older brother to bassist Joe Bouchard. Rondinelli joined the band in 1997*, 21 years after "Don't Fear the Reaper" and the album it was on, "Agents of Fortune," were recorded. Fallon's appearance may have resembled Rondinelli more than Bouchard, but at the time of the recording, it was Bouchard.

Another item: there was a true cowbell story related to the recording as related by Albert Bouchard in an interview**. He was the original cowbell player. It had been suggested by studio producer, Dave Lucas as Albert followed his suggestions and it made it onto the final cut.

Also missing in the skit was Blue Oyster Cult's fifth member, Allen Lanier. Allen played 2nd lead guitar and keyboards for the band. He was an original member like Albert Bouchard, Buck Dharma and Eric Bloom. The Gene Frenkle character in the skit does not come across as a regular member of the band, but rather some guy they brought in to play the cowbell, providing some comic relief.

ref: http://blueoystercult.com/History-main.html
- ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTFTXDOzAc

Broadlighter (talk) 23:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we're going for accuracy, didn't Buck sing on that track, but the sketch has Eric singing? Even so, if the sketch implied Jimmy to be Bobby, why bother mentioning Albert? Gene and (this) Bruce don't even exist, so clearly the sketch exists outside reality. Why even bother with pointing out the true band members for the real time in history when it's not accurate to begin with? 209.6.200.92 (talk) 12:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]