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Volcano???

Why is there a picture of Mt. Saint Helens on the top of this article? If you are trying to get the "feel" of Mt. Sinai with the cloud, a volcano won't do - it's too inaccurate. You'll have to find a drawing or a real mountain with clouds over it. Althepal 00:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the picture is meant to convey the sense of the text in the verses that say:

15 And Moses went up into the mount, and the cloud covered the mount.

16 And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days; and the seventh day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

17 And the appearance of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

Many people visualize this as a volcanic moement. I'm not sure that an image of the base of a mountain with the peak in the clouds would convey the remarkable nature of the event. But I welcome folks trying to find better images. -- Dauster 11:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there was no lava and smoke coming out of Mount Sinai, and I think a picture of a volcano (with one side missing) just gives the wrong idea. Probably a picture of a mountain with clouds would be better than a volcano: First of all, there is no "fire" in this picture. Second of all, God's light/glory and the earth's lava/fire do not go hand in hand at all - they are very different, even if some people will say that "fire" in this case means "lava". But probably the best replacement would be a drawing of the mountain with a cloud above it with bright light emanating from that cloud, or something like that. Even a total removal of the picture might be better than the volcano. Althepal 17:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thoughts. I've spent some time going through mountains and clouds in Wikipedia Commons, and I cannot find a picture closer to what you are describing. I invite you to try to find one. Good hunting. -- Dauster 12:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

;) Althepal 20:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the meantime, I think Mount St. Helens should come down. The page is better with no picture than this somewhat random picture. To me, it's problematic because the Mount St. Helens eruption is so iconic, and so I don't see Mt. Sinai at all, just the famous Pacific Northwest eruption. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.97.191 (talk) 15:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Link Farm

This article is incredibly hard to read because of all the external links. This does not conform with WP:NOT. Please make an effort to reduce the amount of unnecessary links. Thanks, 134.29.231.11 (talk) 20:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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REQUEST: Please see the centralized discussion about this subject, relating to sources, links, content, etc at Talk:Chayei Sarah (parsha). Thank you, IZAK (talk) 09:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Exodus 21 and 23 are Bible chapters, not a parashah

There is no justification for Exodus 21 and 23, which are also part of the Christian Bible, automatically linking to a rabbinical discussion of a parashah.

A majority of potential users of English Wikipedia are not practicing Jews. I will elaborate: a majority are not Jewish, and a majority of Jews are not practicing Judaism and rabbinical studies, but all these people are potentially interested in the Bible for their own cultural and religious reasons. Therefore, when the topic is a particular Bible verse shared by Jews AND Christians and, frankly, the entire humanity, the Bible passage is of interest, not (just) the parasha & discussion in Judaism. Thank you for considering this.

The discussion is happening here. Arminden (talk) 10:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]