Talk:Me and You and Everyone We Know

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Does anyone know what the tune is on Christine's mobile? Matt9090 27 January 2006

I think it was one of the basic Nokia ringtones, but I can't remember which one. Ytookay 00:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not sure that this description really does justice to the film. it makes it seem as though the movie is about teen sex and poop fetishes. thats not quite what comes to mind when i think about what the characters were all about.

i cant post now, but i think it needs to be fixed up so as not to throw off potential first time viewers.

I don't think it even came close to being overt scat fetish, the thought never properly entered my mind - rather it was Robby's naivete or whatever you have it. Does Peter also fall in love with Sylvie (the 8 year old girl) at the end, perhaps it was the sentimentality of it all but I really wouldn't call that episode of them lying on the floor "love". awesome film, though. 202.156.6.54 09:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned it up somewhat...I think the quotes should be moved to wikiquotes, though -- feb^talk 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Reception seems slanted towards positive reception of the film. Were there no negative or mixed professional reviews? I know on the Internet, most people tend to hate Julie's films. I was actually in the minority in liking Me and You and Everyone We Know when it came out. I wasn't aware it had a reputation as a pretentious bad art film until Brad Jones tweeted that it was one of the worst films he's ever seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.225.140.235 (talk) 00:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Subtext" section

This is original research and doesn't belong in Wikipedia, much less with profanity (also not permitted here). For you folks above, even though I know you made your edits over a year ago, it's still worth recommending that you sign up for accounts, since that offers a level of discourse not possible otherwise. For the sake of accountability, I've included the section I removed here. Drasil (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

==Subtext==
The often toxic/twisted activities of the characters (self-immolation, a blowjob contest, seducing underage girls, cybersex with pre-adolescents, etc.) are the ))<>(( "Forever" pooping act brought to life, where one passes their shit on to another and that other serves it back to them or someone else . . . forever. Robby, the innocent, quietly observes and absorbs these behaviors, puzzled by them much as he is by the inexplicable tapping/clanking sound he hears at the start of every day. At the conclusion of the film, when he discovers that the sound is that of a man tapping a quarter on a light pole and asks the gentleman what he's doing, it's explained that he's "just passing the time." Robby is handed the quarter (being passed "the shit") and begins tapping it himself. While he does this, the sun rises, as though it's the dawning of his realization that he, too, will pass the time of his life this way.
Even before the final scene, it's notable that Robby is the one who creates/notices the idea of ))<>((. When his brother, Peter, asks him what he wants to say in the chat, the very first thing he wants to communicate is his desire to trade shit back and forth, just as he's seen everyone around him do in their lives.

Profanity is not the problem. One could easily rephrase the above as something such as that "'The poop' stands for the unpleasant or twisted things that the people in the film keep passing back and forth between each other", and later refer to it just as "the poop" in quotes as a recurring central quote from the film itself, for instance, "He sees that all they do is pass each other 'the poop' back and forth."

However, the real problem here is original research, as this is all somebody's interpretation as to what "the poop" really means. You'd need to cite a review that pretty much says that about "the poop" in the film.

Oh, and Sylvie doesn't "quickly run away" after secretely watching the blowjob contest, all we see her doing is her silently brooding about it by the window, with the exact same face as before. As for "love" between Sylvie and Peter as has been asked above, one could at least say that Peter feels drawn towards her by that he keeps visiting her after they've first met because of his sickness, that he buys her stuff for her treasured hope chest, that the two are dreaming of her future house together with all the things from her chest, and that Peter wishes he could live in that house. One could also mention that the motif of the two towels, one wet and one dry, recurs between Sylvie and Peter after she's seen them used elsewhere in relation to Peter, and that she shows peculiar little inhibition or concern talking about Peter's violent death.

(More original research: Typical Freudian themes of early sadism/lack of empathy in Sylvie - as evidenced by the fact that she shows no sign of concern in relation to violent death - and of fecal fantasies in Robby, that are stressed here by both appearing in little kids as Freud has it. One review on this film claims that what we see here is "a little child being corrupted by an adult perv's online chat fantasies". However, Freud has it the other way around with his concept of polymorphous perversity: We unlearn our personal "perversions", at least those commonly coming to mind when the word is heard, when growing up, so that only very little of our original libidinal fantasies remain with us as adults. It's Robby who first mentions "the poop" and what to do with it to the woman at the other end of the screen, not vice versa.)

And Andrew doesn't "appear afraid" when the two teenage girls ring on his door, he's in total shock, as if the police are coming to take him away. One could probably also mention that their "developing relationship" starts out by them trying to get his attention mostly in order to tell him they're 18, and that both sides as fictional characters are constantly trying to steer this "relationship" into a sexual direction, such as by intentional exhibitionism and the two teenagers talking among themselves about their goals with the man. Whether you believe the film is realistic or not, the way their "developing relationship" is being described as of now in the article gives a rather slanted account by totally ignoring the on-going dialogue between the teenagers about their plans for the man. --79.193.51.124 (talk) 21:24, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're under the impression that I authored the text I excised from this article five years ago(?). I am clearly not. It was added by the unregistered user at 68.48.219.211. You are correct in that I removed it because it is original research, as I state in the first sentence of my commentary above the excised text. Drasil (talk) 10:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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