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The mentioning of Our Imbalance & Fed to the Ocean
These bands (of which I'm pretty sure Our Imbalance is an older name of Loathe) are not mentioned in any of the sources currently in the article, hence their removal. - SilentDan (talk) 16:20, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The reliability of the suffissocore.com reference is highly questionable, the writer Lorenzo Becciani appears to be self employed and lacks sufficient experience as a journalist, and Dead Press is considered an unreliable source, as listed here. Can you provide any other references? Also they do not need to be mentioned in the associated acts unless they themselves have articles, which they do not. - SilentDan (talk) 16:47, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's never been a hard and fast rule saying that associated acts have to be notable by Wikipedia's standards, that's only enforced by some users and holds very little merit. I was unaware of the Dead Press ruling however and thus both of these sources are hard, despite being interviews with the band on the topic. Issan Sumisu (talk) 17:02, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just mean that they're unreliable and that there aren't any other sources to support the information, despite it definitely being true. Issan Sumisu (talk) 17:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I just recently removed the source referenced in the header. There are a couple of reasons why I reverted Issan Sumisu's edit which contained the addition of this source. ([1]) Firstly, the website in question is not listed on WP:ALBUM/SOURCE at all, hence my initial scepticism. Then upon looking into the site myself I couldn't find details regarding any of the authors, making their contributions to the site questionable. Finally since this organisation was established only recently (since 2015 I believe), I have doubt's regarding their credibility as a reliable news source. If a proper discussion regarding the sites reliability ought to take place, then we'll discuss it further on the WikiProject Albums talk page. Thank you for your time and please don't revert my removal of this source without first discussing it here. SilentDan (talk) 16:27, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
