Talk:Liao dynasty/Archive 2

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Expansion of article

I am currently working on expanding this article. Some is posted. I will get back to work on it on Thursday. It may look a little disorganized at the transition point for a couple of days. Ludahai 13:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Unclear: write in Khitan people or in Liao Dynasty ?

• See : Talk:History of the Khitans

Yug (talk) 12:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

to merge into the article

Northern Song in 1111.

The Liao Tartars are barely referenced in history and are noted in just about one work, the 12th century Chinese novel, Water Margin, attributed to Shi Nai'an and Luo Guanzhong.

Before the events in Water Margin, a group called the Khitan Empire, also known as the Liao Dynasty, resided in northern China from 907 to 1125. In 936, the emperor of the Later Jin Dynasty in northern China, ceded 16 prefectures in the Youyun area (modern northern Hebei; Beijing) to the Khitans. Consequently, in 946, the Khitans sacked the Chinese capital, Kaifeng. The subsequent capitals were moved elsewhere until an uprising of the Jin Dynasty destroyed the Liao.

In this time period, the Chinese had often used the term Tartars (Tazi/Dazi in Chinese) as a derogatory manner, generalizing the non-Han groups that lived in the north. These groups included the Mongols and Jurchens/Manchus. This is especially true during the periods when China were either being invaded or harassed by these groups, such as the Song Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty.

Most likely, the Chinese court of the Song Dynasty put the two terms together, coining the phrase "Liao Tartars," who were not really Tartars at all, but the Liao peoples of the northwest.

Religion

It should be worthwhile to state the type of Buddhismn the Khtans embraced: whether it was Tubetan Buddhism or one of the sects of Chinese Buddhism. Gantuya eng (talk) 11:56, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Personally, (no reference), I think it was Chinese Buddhism, partly because all the Buddhist temples and Buddhist sculptures during Liao Period were 'Chinese' style, like zh:奉国寺, Pagoda of Fogong Temple, de:Dule-Tempel and zh:华严寺 (大同). Also, Tibetan Buddhism only started to be embraced after the Mongolians.--Tricia Takanawa (talk) 17:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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