Talk:Kathryn Bigelow/Archives/2015

Point Break

I almost edited this myself, but I'm not sure where to go with this. The article says that Point Break was "trashed by most critics" without giving a reference, but FWIW Roger Ebert gave it three and a half stars out of four: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19910712/REVIEWS/107120303/1023 If the film received mixed reviews, what's the best way to reflect this? TJSwoboda 16:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Check its rating at Rotten Tomatoes. Nightscream (talk) 04:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Clearly not enough about Point Break in this article. It's her Citizen Kane for Pete's sake! I'm glad the author likes Strange Days so much but for general readers the article lacks balance. -- EB —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.208.199 (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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"it would be 7 long years before Bigelow was given the chance to return to the director's chair" -- from the 2002 movie paragraph. I'm sure she started working in The Hurt Locker at least in 2007 so.. you could say it only took her about 5 years to get back to the "director's chair" (Nocturama (talk) 11:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC))

Script Controversy

A Msgt. Sarver is suing "The Hurt Locker" for basing the film on his experiences as a bomb disposal expert (the writer for the film was embedded with his unit).

Sgt. Sarver is NOT claiming that Boal stole his script, only that Boal took details of Sarver's life and put them in his script. The lawsuit is worthy of note, but only if you get it right.

Since Bigelow's ex-husband James Cameron stole "The Terminator" and the "Omega Code" and since Cameron is currently being criticized for basing "Avatar" on "Call Me Joe" (1957) by Poul Andersen and works of half a dozen other writers, I think the "Hurt Locker" case should be noted. Script hijacking is an epidemic in Hollywood. Everybody is stealing because there's virtually no copyright protection. Just Google "Hollywood script theft" to start the trail of stolen movie scripts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.18.132 (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

It seems wrong to allege these problems, given our strong rules on handling stuff about living people like Bigelow and Cameron, and to tell us to "Google" for them. If this "script hijacking" is happening just gather good sources that say so and mention it in a new or existing relevant section. Anyone else agree? --an odd name 14:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Even this talk page is an inappropriate and unacceptable place for sour grapes. Either pony up the WP:RS or move along and start a Facebook protest group. Wikipedia is not a forum for anyone's copyright grievances or scandalmongering. Yamara ✉ 19:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Epidemic of Script Theft in Hollywood

I'm going to have to disagree about the notion of script theft being un-noteworthy. Would we delete the criminal aspects of Al Capone's life because they wouldn't be relevant? Here's just one site on the Internet dealing with copyright theft: Wild Realm Film Reviews: Hollywood Plagiarism. The films it lists are Volcano, Dante's Peak, The Terminator, Alien, The Omega Code, The Full Monty, The Animal, Frequency, Coming To America, The Sting, Look Whose Talking, The Ghost Ship, Enough, One Hour Photo, Ground Hog Day, Bringing Down The House, Finding Nemo, Lost In Space, Ghost Busters. Does anyone still think script theft is insignificant? The interesting thing is, I've found that script theft in Hollywood goes back a hundred years. Up until the 1940's, movie studios would even put anybody's name they wanted on the screenplay credit until the Writers Guild put a stop to it. Even today, the Writers Guild (WGA) has an arbitration service for its members to determine who gets screenplay credit. And if you're an independent writer writing spec scripts, Hollywood just steals your years of hard work as standard operating procedure. When they steal your years of work, it's like stealing your house, your car, your medical insurance, your financial security, etc. They ruin your life. It is not "sour grapes". Script theft is devastating to a person's career. And copyright protection comes from the U.S. Constitution, so these script thieves are spitting on the American flag. The reason people think script theft is a joke is because everybody loves the movies--film is a religion to some people--and they can't embrace the fact that Hollywood is filled with desperate wannabes who will steal for a living. Also, I should point out that the FBI hasn't been given a budget to go after script thieves so the field is wide open, and scripts are being stolen left and right.****Sgt. Sarver's lawyer didn't bring the lawsuit until after the Academy voted so that "The Hurt Locker" wouldn't have its chances of winning diminished. How would you feel if someone made a movie based on an aspect of your life without asking your permission or giving you compensation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.19.168 (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Once a case is filed, it is worth a brief mention. If the case is settled, then it deserves another brief mention. The law is very murky when it comes to the ownership of actions that happen to people while they are serving in a unit with an embedded reporter. The WGA doesn't have jurisdiction over a military CO's decision to allow an embed. However, if the man believes he WROTE a substantial part of the script in that it is dialogue he actually spoke which was lifted by the writer, he can take his case to WGA. Of course, now, he stands to make a mint penning an autobiography given the film's performance. Heck, he might even find himself at a news desk at Fox. Hardly a bad outcome for any of the parties involved. So yes, a brief mention, but I see no need to drag Cameron's issues with Harlan Ellison (alluded to above) into the mattter. She wasn't married the Cameron during the making of the Hurt Locker and was just a brief blip on the radar of his involvement with women in the industry. What is she, 3 or 4 wives ago now? 76.166.216.236 (talk) 10:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how any of us feel. Only notable and verifiable information can be inserted into the article and it must not be given undue weight. TaintedMustard (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Birthday

Article indicates that Bigelow was born in 1951 - surely this is not accurate? My goodness, she is an attractive 58-year-old woman if that is her correct birthday!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.77.143.26 (talk) 20:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's correct. – ukexpat (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)