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in what way does kasseri taste like mozzarella
[edit]it really doesn't. there is a cheese similar to kasseri called kaskavali, which is rather like cacciocavallo, but that is another matter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotspury (talk • contribs) 23:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
- Kasseri does not taste like mozzarella, rather the two are made by the same technique, which is called "pasta fillata" in Italian. Mozzarella is a variety of pasta fillata cheese that is eaten fresh, whereas kasseri (and also cacciocavalo, etc) is aged for several months. Note also that mozzarella is typically made with cow or buffallo milk, whereas Greek kasseri must, by law, be made with sheep's milk with the addition of at most 20% goat's milk.81.133.19.108 (talk) 11:36, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
It doesn't taste like mozarella at all. There are different types of kaşar old ones and the fresh ones and both are not originated from Greece. I am not saying it is definitely Turkish but I am sure its not Greek. You need to put a separate page as Kaşar since Kesseri is just a Greek translation of Kaşar.
Just like yoğurt, dolma, köfte, lokum, They are all Turkish (for example: dolma comes from a verb! dolmak = to fill in)
Mousakka are Baklava are even not Greek. They are Arabic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.175.54.86 (talk) 08:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Just words.. Any source that kasseri is originated turkish cheese? This discussion page is nit a forum, please do not mention other products.Vagrand (talk) 13:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- "Kasseri" is a Protected Designation of Origin but the same kind of cheese, in many different varieties, is made all over the Eastern mediterrannean and South-Eastern Europe, from Italy to Romania and from Cyprus to Turky. Like I say in another comment, kasseri is an aged cheese of the pasta fillata type (which is made in the same way as mozzarella, except that mozzarella is eaten fresh). The Italians have many cheeses of this kind, cacciocavalo, scarmorza, provolone, etc. that they shape like pears. In the Balkans and Greece, the same cheeses are shaped into disks. Greek kasseri must be made by sheep and milk with the otpional addition of no more than 20% goat's milk. The same cheese made in Greece without the PDO specification is called "kaskavali". The rest of the Balkans calls the same cheese "kashkaval". The name seems to be somehow related to "cacciocavalo". As to who made this kind of cheese first, this is a question whose answer is lost in the mists of time. It is an ancient kind of cheese that was made by the Romans and attributed to the ancient Greeks and, allegedly described by Hippocrates [1], but with such claims it's difficult to even know whether we're really talking about the same kind of cheese over more than 2000 years. In modern times kasseri (or kaskavali) was brought to Greece via Bulgaria, Romaina and Eastern Romylia as early as 1885 [2]. The name "kasseri" may very well come from the Turkish "kaşar" but it may also come from the Latin "caseus" (i.e. "cheese").
- In general and as a personal note, I find that it is unproductive to try and trace the origins of all the foods of all kinds that we have in common in the Eastern and Southern Mediterrannean and South-Eastern Europe. We hae intermingled, for so long, made love and war ferociously with each other for so long, that we can't really separate our cultures anymore. And just because some thing is called by a Greek word, or a Turkish word, or an Italian, or Buglarian word- it doesn't mean the thing is also Greek, Turkish, Italian or Bulgarian; it only means its name is so.81.133.19.108 (talk) 11:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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Kaşar or Kasseri
[edit]Which one emanates from which one? Ok, it is neither a Turkish nor a Greek cheese, but what should we do about it?
- a different article for kaşar?
- a move to kaşar since etymologically, kasseri comes from kaşar, (ok kaşar ultimately comes from a lot of things too, but certainly not "kasseri"
--Emir Ali Enç (talk) 03:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Source: http://www.nisanyansozluk.com/search.asp?w=Ka%FEar&x=0&y=0
Sevan Nişanyan, Armenian Etymologist of the Turkish Language
The source comes from the same user. Could you please provide another source, not published by you, like a book or anything reliable? I dont see why the the turkish cheese and the greek one are the same product as you said, beside the etymological aspect.Vagrand (talk) 13:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Merged proposal
[edit]I erased to merged proposal {{Merge to|Cheddar cheese|date=December 2011}}. The user that made the proposal didn't made a statement in the discussion page about it, to explain why should be merged.Vagrand (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
What does Kars grayver cheese have to do with Kasseri?
[edit]It's not evident to me what the connection is, and it isn't explained in the entry. I don't know anything about Kars grayvar other than what I read here; what I read is that it's like gruyere, not kasseri, and is made of cow's milk, not sheep's milk. So what is it doing in an entry on kasseri? Mschmidt62 (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- No sources. See also Kars gravyer cheese, copy-paste?--Vagrand (talk) 13:14, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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Kosher kasseri
[edit]I added a "clarification needed" tag to the statement that kasseri is kosher because it's made without rennet. PDO kasseri and similar cheeses, like caciocavallo, kahskaval, provolone, etc are all made with rennet. The claim of the cheese being "invented in Edirne, Turkey, by the Jewish community" already has a "citation needed" tag. If a good reference for this statement is not found I suggest it's deleted because it doesn't seem to be really relevant to kasseri, which must be made with rennet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stassa (talk • contribs) 13:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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