Talk:Karel Schwarzenberg

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I don't like the full title much - AFAIK Schwarzenberg doesn't have a full title: he can be Fürst in german-speaking countries, but as a Czech citizen (let alone government minister), he doesn't have a title, aristocratic titles having been abolished sometime in 1920s... Note that his official biography at the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs (http://www.mzv.cz/wwwo/mzv/default.asp?id=52498&ido=7998&idj=2&amb=1) doesn't include it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.103.157.191 (talk) 10:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also in Austria (unlike Germany) aristrocratic titles (like Fürst) are forbidden. Nahabedere (talk) 15:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but he have dual nationality - Czech ans Swiss, and in Swiss is using of titles allowed. And he is normally titled in press as Prince by premier and others ministers. Yopie 15:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yopie (talk • contribs)

He is also has jewish roots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.46.78.33 (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, he doesn't have Jewish roots (of course, if you go dozens of generations back, most Europeans probably have some very distant Jewish ancestors, but that is hardly relevant for his biograhy). He has German/Bohemian, French, Hungarian, Scottish (William Hamilton, 11th Duke of Hamilton) and English (William Thomas Beckford) ancestry[1]. Mocctur (talk) 17:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, not, he is knight of Golden fleece (Austrian branch), its impossible.--Yopie 20:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The whole confusion might have originated from the fact that his daughter married Peter Morgan, author of scripts for Hollywood and English movies like The Queen. --Zbrnajsem (talk) 12:37, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Box to be changed

Karel Schwarzenberg is no more Minister of Foreign Affairs. Significantly and ironically, his successor is - again - Jan Kohout. --Zbrnajsem (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please double check the information about education. The original page specify highschool as the highest achieved education. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.81.121.124 (talk) 11:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To be checked

Prince Karl Philipp Ernst Ferdinand Alwig Kilian of Schwarzenberg (12 May 1979) adopted by Austrian industrialist and politician Thomas Prinzhorn by agreement 25 November 1987.^[1] He married Countess Anna Elisabeth Aline Henriette Maria Benedikta Stephanie Johanna Lidvine Walpurga Thekla von und zu Eltz on 3 October 2009. They have two children:
- Prince Ferdinand Karl Joseph Johannes of Schwarzenberg (1989)
- Princess Marie Helene Antoinette Teresa Maximiliana of Schwarzenberg (1987)

Two issues: If correct their children were born while parents in elementary school. Also by 1996, Karl Philipp was using Prinzhorn as a last name. Double check source. --CSvBibra (talk) 00:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ IPromi – Fanseite über Promis / VIP / Stars / Prominenten Verzeichnis – Star Lexikon. Ipromi.de. Retrieved on 6 July 2011.

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Is there a reason we are using his titles as official titles, rather than claimed titles? The most prominent example of this is titling him "Prince", but other examples include "His Serene Highness" (abolished as relevant to him in 1918).

This question would also extend to his children, who are titled as "Prince" is the body. BilledMammal (talk) 22:46, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] IPromi – Fanseite über Promis / VIP / Stars / Prominenten Verzeichnis – Star Lexikon. Ipromi.de. Retrieved on 6 July 2011.

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