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Yes, since that's her actual name and "first name + last name" takes precedent unless there is a very strong case otherwise. The Tamimis are very well known in their own right, and she is indeed the cousin of Ahed Tamimi[1]. "Janna Jihad" appears to be her Facebook/Twitter name [2], not clearly what she calls herself, and this is a biography, not a page about her social media handles. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:58, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Multiple relists have gone by without comment, and there's never been any real consensus here. I think this may have been a bit too soon to move – most of the sources referring to her as "Janna Jihad" are older sources, but there aren't many recent sources, or at least not many brought up in this discussion. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory(talk •contribs)07:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Janna Jihad is her social media handle or social media pen name, but she is named otherwise in other contexts, such as this 2023 BBC piece that just calls her Janna Tamimi, so it is not consistent. There is little indication that she is called Janna Jihad in any context other than social media. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose: Nearly all of the sources cited in the article have "Janna Jihad" in their headlines or article body, and many do not include "Tamimi" (for her) at all, so the current article name appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME used to refer to her. The fact that one exception (or a small number of exceptions) can be found does not seem to change the overall picture, unless some WP:NAMECHANGES argument can be made for showing that recent sources are different from older ones. Several of the sources refer to her family members as "Tamimi", but do not refer to her with that surname or mention it only very sparingly in passing as being part of her official name. At least one source gives her full name as "Janna Jihad Ayyad", without "Tamimi". Is "Jihad" part of her official/legal name? (The opening sentence of this article gives her name as "Janna Jihad Ayyad Al-Tamimi", without quote marks around the "Jihad", which seems to imply that this is part of her legal name rather than just a nickname.) On the other hand, nearly all of the cited sources are at least five years old, so I am open to the possible argument that her common name has changed. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:36, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I had to default to Arabic sources to double check that this was her name. In the standard setup (which there is no reason to doubt is used here), Jihad is her dad, Ayyad her grandad. So she played on her real second Arabic name to make a catchy social media handle. I'll look for more sources showing the recent shift. Iskandar323 (talk) 03:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that she got known, as a child, as "Janna Jihad". But the later sources (like the BBC, cited in the article) calls her "Janna Tamini". Also, her (not much used) twitter-account is called https://twitter.com/janna_tamimi (but with "Janna Jihad" promonently displayed in the background). So to me it looks as if "Janna Jihad" is a name she grew out of. "Jihad" as first name is is typically a boys name; Jihad (name). Huldra (talk) 23:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I also got the impression that there have been fewer mentions of it in recent sources as if she's migrating away from it. I didn't mention it because I didn't want to be anecdotal, but I agree. Hadn't noticed the Twitter handle shift - that does somewhat suggest she's personally abandoned the nickname. (So a social media dead name? If that were a thing...) Jihad can be a unisex name, but here, in the context, it's obviously her patronymic second name, i.e. father's name - I suppose she intially went with that on social media because as a small child, the confluence with her mission amused her: now that she's older, she wants to be taken more seriously as an activist/ citizen journalist than the slightly jokey, connotation-laden nickname allows. Iskandar323 (talk) 02:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So far, only one independent reliable source has been mentioned that uses the proposed name (the BBC article that has been mentioned repeatedly). For me, that is not enough. She seems much better known by "Janna Jihad". — BarrelProof (talk) 05:45, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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