Talk:Jackson Avenue station (IRT White Plains Road Line)

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Did you know... that artwork at the Jackson Avenue station in the Bronx depicts images from six Latin American stories?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 13:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Lead is far too short.
- Done
Infobox info not referenced:
- Bx4 bus
  - Done
- ZIP code
  - Done by @Epicgenius:--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Rank
  - Done
Melrose is mentioned in the lead/infobox but not in the article.
- Done
"November 26, 1904 between " comma after 1904.
- Done
"October 1, 1907 when" comma after 1907.
- Done
"locals were extended" does this mean "local trains"?
- - Done by @Epicgenius:--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The cutoff was removed in 1950." unref.
- Removed
It needed 570 entries per day, but how many was "low number of entries"?
- - The document includes figures for specific months but does not average them, with 614 in 10/75, 487 pre-fire in 3/76, 390 in 10/77 and 270 in 10/80. I am not sure what you would suggest I do here.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"so more stations had no " with instead of had.
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Station layout diagram, "Side platform" is overlinked, as is Third Avenue–149th Street, Flatbush Avenue–Brooklyn College, and Prospect Avenue.
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"The 2009 artwork here is ..." The 2009 artwork at the station is...
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"HABS image of th..." fragment, no period.
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"1785 - 2006" should be unspaced en-dash, check others.
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Be consistent with source names, linking etc e.g. compare refs 1&2 with ref 18.
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That's it for a quick run. On hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:05, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Due to Passover, I won't be able to do any editing from tonight until Thursday evening at the earliest. I am still committed to addressing your concerns with the article. Thanks for your patience and stay safe.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Thanks for the feedback, I have addressed most of these. In addition I added a few paragraphs to the article, mostly in relation to the station layout. epicgenius (talk) 02:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers epicgenius. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 18:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kew Gardens 613, let me know when you're good for a re-review. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 18:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I am good for a re review. Thanks so much.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, all good. Nice work all. Promoting. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that artwork at the Jackson Avenue station depicts images from six Latin American stories? Source: MTA art
- ALT1:... that the Jackson Avenue station, listed on the National Register of Historic Places as one of the first subway stations in New York City, has two Queen Anne style station houses? Source: NRHP pp. 5, 7, 8
- ALT2:... that after a token booth at the Jackson Avenue station burned down, plans to rebuild it were abandoned, as it would require an estimated 570 entries per day for the booth's cost to break even? Source: Memo

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maestas vs. George H. Shone

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 19:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Epicgenius and Kew Gardens 613, my review is below.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Add a wikilink to ALT1 for Queen Anne Style architecture, and reference the relevant page numbers from the PDF for ALT2.

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Good to go, just see to the two minor issues mentioned above. You may want to get a second opinion, as this is my first DYK review. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 17:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright status

@Epicgenius: (and @The Rambling Man: who looked at the GA review recently) has anyone considered the copyright status of File:Jackson Av art vc.jpg, which is used in the article? I always forget exactly what's allowed and what isn't, but as a photograph of a piece of artwork, which is presumably itself under copyright, shouldn't this be prohibited for use in the article? Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 13:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You'll be talking about Freedom of panorama which differs from country to country. I'm no expert but I think you're probably right that specifically in the United States this may be an infringement of copyright. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 13:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man and Amakuru: Yeah this seems like a pretty clear copyright violation. I've removed it from the page. epicgenius (talk) 14:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Also, I don't think the "freedom of panorama" thing applies to renditions of 2D images, assuming that this artwork is actually 2D. I can't just go to my local art gallery and take a picture of a copyrighted artwork for use on Commons, can I? Even though taking a picture of architecture or a sculpture would be allowed in the UK. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru, this is a 2D work (glass panels) so it should be fully copyrighted. epicgenius (talk) 14:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru then how did it get passed to us from Flickr and validated for use? It should be deleted. Perhaps there's an endemic issue here that needs more attention. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]