Talk:Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland

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Since Henry's grandfather's earldom was attainted, it seems that this would have been a new creation of the earldom of Northumberland, making him then the 1st Earl of Northumberland of this new creation. ScottyFLL 13:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is, it seems, an error on this page. If Henry "Hotspur" was the 2nd Earl of Northumberland, how could his son be also called the 2nd Earl of Northumberland? Mugginsx (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just rewritten the page. Scotty: It was a new creation, so maybe you're right. Personally I'm not too fussy about the numbers, I think of it mostly as disambiguation and two pages named "Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland" would be a problem. Mugginsx: Hotspur was never earl, he died before his father. Lampman (talk) 11:17, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevilles

The article notes that Percy was on good terms with the Westmoreland Nevilles but that relations with the cadet branch headed by Salisbury began to degenerate in the 1450s. However, the way it's phrased seems a bit misleading, given that the Westmoreland branch of the Nevilles was on bad terms with the Salisbury/Beaufort branch from the 1440s, if not earlier. Perhaps it would be possible to clarify that relations with Percy followed this existing split in the Neville family? Choess (talk) 05:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: hamiltonstone (talk) 02:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Generally excellent, neutral, stable and well referenced. I am not familiar with copyright issues etc in relation to coats of arms, but with that proviso the images are in order. Some terminology is a little inaccessible to a lay reader:[reply]

"was created the first Percy earl of Northumberland in 1377" - can this be put in plainer English, such as "was the first of his family / line to be made earl of Northumberland" or does this mean something else?
"presented his grandson to the king at Doncaster" - I assume this doesn't mean he gave him as a gift. What does "presented" therefore imply in this context?
"he was also involved in central affairs" - what is meant by "central affairs"?
"the majority rule of Henry VI." Why "majority"?
"was appointed member of the minority council of the infant Henry VI." What is a minority council?

It would be good to have these points clarified. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review. I've tried to clarify these things, let me know if this helps, or if there are still issues to be resolved. Lampman (talk) 18:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that clarifies my queries. All good. hamiltonstone (talk) 22:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]