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Harrie Massey has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
March 8, 2015	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Harrie Massey/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Herald (talk · contribs) 15:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The review will be done shortly, AFAP by me. Ṫ Ḧ ^{the joy of the LORD}_{my strength} 15:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

Good Article Status – Review Criteria

Further information: WP:WIAGA

A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2] and

(c) it contains no original research.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

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Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

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(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Review

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. Has an appropriate reference section:

B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments and discussion

The lead requires a slight rewrite to remove the 'influential' and the next sentence could be connected with the first as a single phrase. A little more expansion in the very first paragraph will do good.
Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The info box must have at least two inline or full cites, specially rectifying the death and birth date.
The Infobox summaries the article and must not have inline cites. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think so. Galileo Galilei do not have so, neither many other GAs of similar fields. Inline cites provide better stability and at least two of them are expected in the infobox. Ṫ Ḧ ^{the joy of the LORD}_{my strength} 07:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INFOBOXREF: References are not needed in infoboxes if the content is repeated (and cited) elsewhere or if the information is obvious. If the material requires a reference (see WP:MINREF for guidelines) and the information doesn't also appear in the body of the article, the reference should be included in the infobox. However, editors should first consider including the fact in the body of the article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 07:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio shows about 70% paraphrasing which must be reduced by a rewrite.
Despite the figure, the compare shows no sign of paraphrasing at all. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

royalcommission1851.org is dead and must be removed or replaced.
Replaced. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Collisions of Material Particles from cam.ac.uk must be updated of access date.
Added. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Though images are not a criterion, an image or two in the early life and career and later life sections will be appreciated.
Added. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Death could be better explained in a new section.
Moved to a new section. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Second paragraph of Second World War needs few more inline cites.
Section is fully referenced. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Result

The article passed the GA review to gain a Good Article status. Though I have a slight concern on the lack of cites in the info box, it does not pose a great threat for the article's gradation as GA. Some red links point towards future articles and an image of the person is appreciated in the article. Ṫ Ḧ ^{the joy of the LORD}_{my strength} 11:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Additional notes

^ Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.
^ Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.
^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.
^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Harrie Massey/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Needs references and a more continuous flow Snailwalker | talk 00:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 00:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 17:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

The article was completely rewritten in March 2015. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.

[2] Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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