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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved to the alternate suggestion of Halifax (former city). - UtherSRG (talk) 14:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

City of Halifax → Halifax (community) –

Support Move - The current title is erroneous and extremely confusing. Attempts to move the article to a more appropriate names have been challenged. This is not an article about the the "City of Halifax", because there is no longer a city named Halifax. The Capital of Nova Scotia is now Halifax Regional Municipality which incorporates into its boundaries the former city of Halifax. The current name is incorrect and problematic because users looking for the Capital will most likely be mistakenly led to this article. This is not an article about the "City of Halifax". It is an article about the "former city of Halifax" which is now the community of Halifax, which is within the Halifax Regional Municipality. I strongly recommend that this article be moved to Halifax (community). Dolovis (talk) 04:48, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If this is "an article about the former city of Halifax'", then why not Halifax (former city) or one of the other possibilities mentioned in previous discussions such as Halifax Peninsula with some material moved to History of Halifax? Halifax (community) seems a bit vague and there is neither evidence in the article that "community" is applied that often to the former city nor that it could not be applied equally as much to some of the other Halifaxes out there. (I prefer the old article title of Halifax, Nova Scotia myself.) — AjaxSmack 04:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Halifax Peninsula wouldn't be appropriate because it wouldn't cover the entire area that was the City of Halifax. I don't have a strong opinion on the issue, but it has been discussed every few months for years in many different locations. As far as I can tell City of Halifax was the least confusing version that has come up in the many discussions. Because (community) for example can apply to a city as well as a neighbourhood so (community) would equally apply to the Halifax in England (or any of the many other communities/cities named Halifax). Halifax, Nova Scotia is ambiguous as it applies to a number of different things so I would be hesitant to name this article that. Especially since the HRM is often refered to as Halifax, Nova Scotia even though it technically is not. -DJSasso (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - As the nominator I would support to move the article to Halifax (former city) as suggested by AjaxSmack. Dolovis (talk) 12:27, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It is/was a city, and should be disambiguated as such, either City of Halifax or Halifax, Nova Scotia (city). 117Avenue (talk) 04:07, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Untitled addition moved from top of page

This article tells us virtually nothing about Halifax other than its history and is thus extremely defective. One would like to know the usual things about Halifax that one finds about other cities (or municipalities!!!) in wikipedia such as tourist attractions, educational instutions, current cultural activities, etc. The article should be renames "History of halifax." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.57.74 (talk) 14:59, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Something to be aware about is that there only is a history. The city of Halifax no longer exists. The information you are looking for is in at the Halifax Regional Municipality which is what now exists where Halifax (and some other cities) used to be located. -DJSasso (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The problem highlighted by the comment of IP 69.237.57.74 underscores the reason why this article must be moved to a more descriptive name (such as Halifax (former city)), because users looking for the article about the capital of Nova Scotia will find this article, when they are actually looking for Halifax Regional Municipality! This "City of Halifax" title should be used as a redirect to "Halifax Regional Municipality" to eliminate such confusion. Dolovis (talk) 17:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The IP claims to have read the entire article, but his comments implies he didn't make it to the second sentence. 117Avenue (talk) 05:53, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Halifax which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 05:44, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move this page

All of this page should be included in the Halifax Regional Municipality article. Seriously. This is so unnecessary. Or rename this page History of Halifax. NickCochrane (talk) 03:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When a city is disestablished, it does not lose its notability. The city and the regional municipality are completely different municipalities. 117Avenue (talk) 04:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly the shift from city to municipality can be adequately noted in the HRM article. A HRM history page needs to be created that includes the development of the municipality that provides a general history/ overview of all the communities within it (i.e., starting with the founding of Halifax in 1749, the forts built at Sackville and Dartmouth the following year, migration to Lawrencetown in 1754, to the amalgamation, etc.). This main history page for HRM can link to other history pages of specific local communities in the HRM. The current Halifax (former city) should be integrated into an article on the History of HRM --Hantsheroes (talk) 10:27, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No because you would then have to merge every community that merged into the HRM in the HRM page and there are well over 100. Keeping them separate and discussing their individual histories makes sense as it allows for more information and more expansion which in the end is better for the readers. -DJSasso (talk) 13:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Wiki article on the History of Canada, the History of Nova Scotia but there can't be an article on the History of HRM because it contains too many communities?--Hantsheroes (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There should certainly be articles on each of the small communities (and some moderately sized e.g. Dartmouth) included in the HRM, but there should be a separate history article to link to from the Primary topic, which is what this article currently functions as. LenaLeonard (talk) 17:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote conflict

We're getting into another situation where information is being added to the hatnote in this article. As per [[1]],do we really have to go through this again? Regards, Aloha27 talk 13:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]