Talk:Americas–France relations

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A fact from Americas–France relations appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 January 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that France-Americas relations (map pictured) were initiated in 1524 with the explorations of Giovanni da Verrazzano in the service of Francis I of France?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/January.

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Biased

This article is extremely biased, since it only documents the French presence and actions in the Americas while it does not speak about the American presence and actions in France. WWI and WWII are completely forgotten. This is not neutral at all. Thierry Caro (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I must oppose the identification of this article as "extremely biased". I agree information on the role the Americas have played in France itself is warranted, but the absence of such information does not automatically mean bias. It could mean the author of this article just hasn't got around to including such information, or did not think to include it. Calling an article biased is an extremely big charge on both the article and its author, and I do not believe the evidence is there to do that. What is in the article is neutrally written. HonouraryMix (talk) 13:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: closed per suggestion. Consensus seems to be to merge rather than rename. Kotniski (talk) 09:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

France–Americas relations → History of French involvement in the Americas — The current title would seem to indicate that this article is about the foreign relations between France and the countries of Americas. In fact, it is about France's historical activities in the Americas. See also the above section. Relisting Andrewa (talk) 02:59, 9 March 2011 (UTC) --The Celestial City (talk) 19:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The actual topic would appear to be French colonialism in the New World. This does not include the section on French weapons in the American Civil War, but that largely refers to weapons built by American companies (North and South) imitating French designs; it doesn't belong under the present title either. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article on the French colonization of the Americas... 65.95.15.144 (talk) 20:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs a clear scope before it can have a clear name. I think it should be a broad overview of French relations with the New World, of which French colonization of the Americas is a small part. If this is the scope of the article, the current title makes sense. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 09:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why it should exist at all. Alot of it should be merged to French colonization of the Americas or that article's subarticles (like New France). All the rest should reside in a Foreign relations of France article. 65.93.13.129 (talk) 04:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please note the infobox which identifies France–Asia relations and France–Asia relations as companion articles to this. If this topic is to be rejected or renamed, then surely we should reject or rename the whole set? Relisting to allow further discussion, and posting a heads-up to these other pages. Andrewa (talk) 02:59, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Note also previous discussion at Talk:France–Asia relations. Andrewa (talk) 03:10, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That article should merge with this one for a Foreign relations of France article. Or History of the foreign relations of France. 65.93.13.129 (talk) 04:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign relations of France already exists, and links to the three lower-level articles. The only History of the foreign relations of... article currently is History of the foreign relations of Mauritania, although there are several similarly-named subcategories of Category:History of international relations.

But if the discussion is now about merge rather than move, perhaps we should close this RM? I have relisted it, but there has been no support for the move before or since relisting, so IMO it could be closed anytime. Andrewa (talk) 05:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.