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A fact from Flawless (Beyoncé song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 January 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a speech delivered by Nigerian writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie was sampled and used by American singer Beyoncé Knowles in a song called "Flawless"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/January.

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Review

http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/24358866-452/beyonce-is-truly-a-feminist.html#.U1Mph1WSyr0

— Simon (talk) 01:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

— Simon (talk) 14:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Source

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/06/the-full-story-of-beyonces-flawless/373480/

My love is love (talk) 00:56, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Remix ft. Nicki Minaj

Simon (talk) 06:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The New-Yorker

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/nicki-beyonce-wake-call

cover image?

Beyoncé's official site shows this image as the cover for the track. I feel that it is most likely to be used as the official digital cover for the single and makes sense to integrate into the article in some capacity. it may be a stretch but the original promotional cover for the song may also be noteworthy for it's use online and in her tour. Bow Down. RatiziAngelou^contribs 23:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we should first wait for a single release if there is any. My love is love (talk) 01:08, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Single?

Not saying it is a single, however the Nicki Minaj remix appears to be coming to Rhythmic radio in the US according to HitsDailyDouble http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi / archive --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's also apparently impacted urban radio, as confirmed by Columbia Records themselves via this press release. Holiday56 (talk) 11:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but it was the remix version that was released as a single, not the original album version feat. Adichie. I think we should change the infobox regarding the original version to {{Infobox song}}, and add another one for the Nicki Minaj single (either below the first one, or in the Remix section). — Mayast (talk) 19:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added another infobox. However, I see now that according to release history section, the original version impacted the radio as well. I'm not sure how credible the source is, though, so I left it as a song. Anyway, I think that the two versions ("feat. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie" and "feat. Nicki Minaj") should have separate infoboxes. — Mayast (talk) 19:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This Idolator article mentions what I assume is the original version of "Flawless" impacting rhythmic radio (Minaj's name isn't listed) – perhaps we could take that as a more reliable source? No exact date listed, but since it mentions the date having occurred the week of the article's publishing date (August 20, 2014) that seems to correspond with the August 19 date Hits Daily Double mentions. Holiday56 (talk) 02:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

With the new infobox of the remix, I'm still not sure if referring to it as a single is the best way to go, considering the remix is not available for purchase whatsoever. --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Jody Rosen

This is a review from New York magazine, written by famous critic Jody Rosen. Simon (talk) 13:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Remix feat. Nicki Minaj: live at On the Run Tour (Paris)

http://www.mtv.com/news/1929814/beyonce-nicki-minaj-performance-flawless-video/

Simon (talk) 05:40, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good article?

This article seems pretty solid. Is there anyone who is interested in trying to promote this article to Good status? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:03, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]