Talk:Fireproofing

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Fireproofing

In the section "In ordinary building fires, concrete typically achieves excellent fire-resistance ratings, unless it is too wet, which can cause it to crack and explode. For unprotected concrete, the sudden endothermic reaction of the hydrates and unbound humidity inside the concrete causes such pressure as to spall off the concrete," then you mention an UL test that probes that... can you provide the document number? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caenleve (talk • contribs) 15:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is sort of bedrock knowledge in passive fire protection. This is why in E119 testing and its derivatives, one waits until the sample (which could be a concrete slab or block wall or something going through it or sitting in it) has reached an RH of 75% or less. Concrete can explosively spall. One engineer I know refers to it as a "popcorn" effect. It can even be spectacular, especially with a loadbearing sample. Every PFP fire test standard has a sample conditioning clause to prevent both extremes: Either having the excess moisture provide an unfair benefit to the sample, OR, to stop concrete from spalling. It's not hard to do. You just wait. The longer concrete is wet, the more hydration takes place and the better the quality, provided it was not mixed too wet in the first place. At some point it dries, particularly in winter, as humidity drops and the heat is turned on. So there isn't ONE document that has this as its main topic, because basically if you don't know this, have no business being in the business. It's like asking for proof that the Pope is Catholic or that water is wet. --Achim Hering (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

list of possible additions to article and bibliography

Plan of addition to article:

more information on the use of asbestos new methods section with citations related vocabulary tunnel test fire assembly and classification UL label spray on fireproofing fire area fire wall flame-spread rating

Bibliography:

Ching, Francis D. K. A visual dictionary of architecture. New York: J. Wiley, 1995.

Allen, Edward, and Joseph Iano. Fundamentals of building construction: materials and methods. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley, 2009.

Argenti, Francesca, and Gabriele Landucci. "Experimental and numerical methodology for the analysis of fireproofing materials." Journal of Loss Prevention in the Process Industries 28 (2014): 60-71. doi:10.1016/j.jlp.2013.05.005.

Tugnoli, Alessandro, Valerio Cozzani, Annamaria Di Padova, Tiziana Barbaresi, and Fabrizio Tallone. "Mitigation of fire damage and escalation by fireproofing: A risk-based strategy." Reliability Engineering & System Safety 105 (2012): 25-35. doi:10.1016/j.ress.2011.11.002.

Zicherman, Joseph. Fire safety in tall buildings. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1992.

Ching, Frank, Frank Ching, and Frank Ching. Building construction illustrated. Hoboken: Wiley, 2008.

Melissa Luo (talk) 01:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Non-architectural fireproofing?

This article deals with fireproofing of buildings. As far as I can see (from a quick look at a few other articles and categories) there is no coverage of fireproofing of other things. For example, I own a couple of external disk drives that are designed to resist earthquakes, floods, and fire. Should this article be expanded to cover such things? Should it go somewhere else? Have I missed it and it is already there?Bill (talk) 09:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]