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"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
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Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
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Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
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Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
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A fact from David Alcaide appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 July 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that pool player David Alcaide became the Spanish national eight-ball champion at age 14?

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Speed pool

Removed the following from the article since it was factually incomplete and unsourced. Anyone have enough detail to fill it out properly?

At some unknown period, Alcaide, along with a less notable player, had been invited in an exhibition in an attempt to break the world speed pool record on two tables. Alcaide didn't made it and neither did the unknown player.

Would be an okay addition (even if a bit trivial) if completed. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 22:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this one on television. Alcaide was trying to pocket all balls on two tables with a shorter total time. Someone else was also in contention but I forgotten that person's name. -61.9.126.41-

That's nice, but it's not a source. :-) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 00:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... that pool player David Alcaide was the first Spanish player to compete at the Mosconi Cup? "Shaw and Alcaide complete defending champions line-up - Matchroom Pool". Matchroom Pool. Retrieved 2 June 2019.
- ALT1:... that pool player David Alcaide became Spanish national 8-ball champion aged just 14? "Snooker con dos españoles en la disciplina". Marca.com. 5 March 2019. Retrieved 2 June 2019.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leagues Cup

5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 21:35, 2 June 2019 (UTC).[reply]

The article has been expanded enough, is fully sourced, and has no copyright violations. I prefer ALT1. SL93 (talk) 17:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 13:08, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"pool" is piped to a redirect in the opening sentence.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" the event in 2017" make it "the 2017 event" so you can avoid an easter egg link.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"semi-finalist having reached the semifinals" hyphen or not?
- reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"the first ever Spanish player to" no need for "ever".
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" plays fellow cue sport snooker" really no need for "fellow cue sport".
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Where is date of birth referenced?
- added a sentence in the prose Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" twice in both" no need for "twice" or "both".
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" aged 5," five. And the latter age -> fourteen.
- aren't ages always numbers? I thought someone had told me that before. MOS:NUM says: Comparable values should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently: patients' ages were five, seven, and thirty-two or ages were 5, 7 and 32, which is why I wrote this like this Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - No, ages aren't always numbers. But you're right about the comparable values. Since we usually write out numbers less than 10 or those which can be written in one/two words (e.g. fourteen, thirty-two) then I've always opted for words. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps to add some detail about his date and place of birth in the prose rather than just in the lead/infobox.
- see above Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"the Spanish Open in" why italics?
- Who knows? Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Second sentence of "Nine-ball" section is massive, needs chopping up.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"and then later during" well he can't make his "first breakthrough" twice so this needs rework.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lee Van Corteza - our article has it with two n's in Vann.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See previous reviews for comments on linking, hyphenating: double-elimination tournament etc.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Alcaide would lose " "lost". A few of these...
- I have a tick, I swear. Deleted Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would merge the first two paras of the "Nine ball" section as they are closely related and the second para is way short.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"last of the event, seeing the event" repetitive.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Alcaide would not represent" -> did not.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Probably worth noting the result of the 2017 Mosconi Cup too. Should the tie and win in the Mosconi Cup be listed in his honours?
- The win, yes, the tie - not so much. The result was in the prose Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fong-Pang-> Fong-pang.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jung-Lin-> Jung-lin.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No need to relink Van(n) Corteza.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Alcaide would repeat ..." too many run-ons here too.
- fixed Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Alcaide represented Spain" has represented, unless I suppose he's certain never to do it again.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Malaga" diacritic consistency please.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Bronze Medalist"/"Bronze Medal" why the over-capitalisation?
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 23 marked as permanently dead so needs replacing.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid SHOUTING in the refs.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid repeating the source of the reference in the ref title.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid spaced hyphens in the ref title.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Be consistent, is it AZ Billiards, or AzBilliards or azbilliards.com?
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's enough for my opening thoughts, it's on hold. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got through all of these TRMBest Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Added a reply above. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason why "2009 Predator International Ten-ball Tour – Portugal[34]" isn't mentioned in the prose? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a little bit about this - the tour was barely much of a thing, but he did win it Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And which is it in 2009, Italian or Treviso? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strictly speaking, both names are used, but I've been consistent now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy now, promoting. Good work again (I made a few more tweaks, but nothing major). Cheers. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]