Talk:Country Liberal Party

Not sure about the simplistic division along race lines

I don't think that the description of the CLP as being identified with Territorians of European descent is fair. In particular the Northern Territory has a higher proportion of persons born in Asia than elsewhere in Australia, and a very long association with Asia, especially through late-19th and 20th century Chinese labourers. The CLP has elected members from many backgrounds, and currently Richard Lim, of Malaysian Chinese origin, is deputy leader of the party.

I do not dispute however that the ALP is strongly associated with rural seats with a high proportion of aboriginal residents - the five safest ALP seats are dominated by high aboriginal populations.

I think it would be more accurate to say that despite its attachment to frontier themes and metaphors, in practice the CLP appealed to a largely urban constituency in Darwin and its surrounds, whereas the ALP found its heartland in areas where aboriginals dominate culture and demographics - the non-urban centre and Arnhem Land areas of the Territory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.243.156.205 (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

CLP party colour

Can someone please fix it, it's not blue it's brown. Timeshift (talk) 08:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't the CLP know how to sit on their own

In Federal Parliament the CLP sits with the Liberals in the House of Representatives and the Nationals in the Senate but doesn't the CLP know how to sit on their own. I mean the CLP is technically a seperate party from the Liberals and Nationals. --The Shadow Treasurer (talk) 03:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

What is your point? They are in the coalition. Timeshift (talk) 05:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

The point is the CLP is a distinct party from the Liberal and National parties they do not need to be identified with one or the other they have their own identity.

Since a CLP MHR has a right to vote for the Liberal leadership that in theory means that such an MHR has the right to stand for Liberal leader. I mean does the Liberal Party have a problem with someone who is technically not a member of the party being their leader. --The Shadow Treasurer (talk) 07:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You really need to stop this habit of yours. Wikipedia discussion pages are not places to discuss the subject, they are to discuss improvements to said article. Timeshift (talk) 07:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

To clarify this point, the coalition parties all sit together in the lower, it is the house where governments are formed after all. However now in the upper, current deputy Nationals leader and former leader of the Nationals in the Senate, Scullion, gave the Senate leadership to Joyce and has said they will vote as their own bloc not necessarily with the Liberals after the success of non-Nat Nat candidates in other areas. It's now Labor and Liberal 32 each, with Nat+CLP a 5-man bloc, Greens 5, FFP 1, Xen 1. Labor needs 7 additional votes. Timeshift (talk) 18:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

HoR CLP fell for the first time ever?

I believe Hawke Labor held it from the CLP for some of the 1980s... Timeshift (talk) 17:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed change to infobox

Turned out to be a sock of a blocked editor. Orderinchaos 03:49, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I propose to change the Infobox to recognise that the Country Liberal Party is an NT party that only contests elections in the Northern Territory. I propose to make the Infobox like this: Country Liberal Party Leader Terry Mills Founded 1974 Headquarters 107 Woods Street Darwin NT 0800 Ideology Liberal conservatism Political position Centre-right Northern Territory seats in the House of Representatives 1 / 2 Northern Territory seats in the Senate 1 / 2 Northern Territory Parliament 16 / 25 Website Country Liberal Party Politics of Australia Political parties Elections I have tried to do this, but an editor objected. The editor wrote that the Infobox is for Federal Seats. This is (a not correct and (b this takes Federal seats into account. I refer editors to say the Scottish Conservative Party, Welsh Labour Party or Sinn Fein. These infoboxes say for example 'Scottish seats in the House of Commons', 'Welsh seats in the House of Commons' and 'Northern Ireland seats in the House of Commons respectivley. I think this change makes sense. Welshboyau11 (talk) 09:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC) The infobox is for both federal and territory. By the way, if you expect to move on without having to face what's been said to you, think again. Timeshift (talk) 09:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC) Please go away. If you continue harassing me, I will make a complaint. I am not going to respond to you. Welshboyau11 (talk) 10:07, 6 September 2012 (UTC) Welsh Labour and Scottish Conservative Party says "House of Commons", Sinn Fein only distinguishes because it operates in two completely different jurisdictions. The proposed changes would actually *break* the standard rather than enforce it. I'm concerned at your misrepresentation, firstly of sources at the other article and now linked articles here. Orderinchaos 10:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC) That's not true. I did make a mistake in saying that it said Scottish seats in the House of Commons' and 'Welsh seats in the House of Commons'. But you made a mistake too. Did you notice that Welsh Labour has 26/40 - meaning Labour holds 26 of the 40 Welsh seats. With Scottish Conservatives, it says 1 out of 59 - indicating the Scottish Conservatives hold 1 out of 59 Scottish seats. Overall, their are 650 seats in the House of Commons in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. But rather than saying 26/650, since Welsh Labour only contest seats in Wales, it says 26/40 (40 being number of Welsh seats). Or take a look at Welsh Conservative Party - that was an example I was going to use. It specifically says 'House of Commons (Welsh Seats), 8/40. Welshboyau11 (talk) 10:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC) In relation to the misunderstanding, see other pages that follow what I was saying eg 'Welsh seats in the House of Commons': Scottish Liberal Democrats (says Scottish seats in House of Commons), Scottish National Party(says Scottish seats in House of Commons), Plaid Cymru (House of Commons Welsh seats), Social Democratic and Labour Party (Northern Irish seats in the House of Commons) and a few others. Welshboyau11 (talk) 11:11, 6 September 2012 (UTC) Agreed, for what it's worth. Additionally Welsh Labour and the Scottish Conservatives are divisions of the federal party, and their numbers are included in the total on the Conservative Party (UK) page. The CLP, a separate but affiliated party, has one of 150 seats, and that's the information that readers need. Frickeg (talk) 10:37, 6 September 2012 (UTC) In agreement with Frickeg. FTR, when you make an assertion and then try to do something controversial to an article based on that assertion, it's not unwise to actually check the articles you're linking to to make sure they actually are as you say, otherwise people take you on trust and get pissed off when they find almost the opposite of what you're describing when they click on the links. Orderinchaos 23:09, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

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Party "creation" 1974

Just found this article on Trove which states that the CLP was not created as a merger in 1974, but rather the local Country Party simply changed its name in order to include Liberal supporters. Does anyone have further info on this? Ivar the Boneful (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Senator sam McMahon quits clp.

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/31/nt-senator-sam-mcmahon-resigns-from-country-liberals-risking-partys-status 49.178.164.224 (talk) 12:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Page is pushing propaganda & misinformation.

The opening of this page is misleading.

This …..

“The Country Liberal Party (CLP), officially the Country Liberals (Northern Territory),[2][3] is a liberal conservative[4] political party in Australia founded in 1974, which operates solely in the Northern Territory, however due to Christmas Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands forming part of the Division of Lingiari they also vote for the Country Liberal Party.“

The above is poorly worded….

The following paragraph needs correction.

“ which operates solely in the Northern Territory, however due to Christmas Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands forming part of the Division of Lingiari they also vote for the Country Liberal Party.“

The part that states …

“ however due to Christmas Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands forming part of the Division of Lingiari they also vote for the Country Liberal Party.“

Is incorrect, misleading propaganda. & should be removed.

1. Claiming every single person on both islands vote ( every time ) for the country liberal party, is wrong an inaccurate.

2. Claiming that “ Christmas Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands forming part of the Division of Lingiari they also vote for the Country Liberal Party.“ Insinuate that both islands ALWAYS vote country liberal party. & that not true either. Just look at past election results.

This page is nothing more than a propaganda page for the country liberal party & Wikipedia should be embarrassed. 49.178.163.132 (talk) 15:25, 1 March 2022 (UTC)