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This article was previously nominated for deletion. The result of the discussion was redirect to Steven M. Greer.

A fact from Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 January 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Apollo 14 astronaut Ed Mitchell told a group of congressmen that aliens exist, at an event organised by the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence.

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Precision in language

I put this up for DYK, and it's been suggested that some of the language used in the article is perhaps inappropriate. I mean this in terms of technical issues (is giving statements to a briefing of people from Congress a 'congressional briefing'? are they actually testimonies, or does that only apply to hearings?) - if anyone needs anything clarifying, or can help me clarify, or is interested in direct quotations in so much as I can give them, please let me know! When you jump in the waters of the fringe, even meeting all the criteria for inclusion, you walk a tightrope. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 11:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Recreation

This article is a 2014 recreation of an older 2007 article that was redirected by consensus to Steven M. Greer in 2009 (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CSETI). —Paleo Neonate – 01:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PaleoNeonate: it seems to have been inactive for almost two decades. A search in GNews for the last 17 years[1] appears to mention it only in connection with Greer in stories about Greer's activities. User:Panyd, you recreated it but I think it should be redirected/merged again. Doug Weller talk 13:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm at a disadvantage in as much as I'm using Nexis for my searching but given that they were granted their trademark in 2012 I'd disagree that it's been inactive for two decades! Stephen Greer and CSETI are rarely mentioned without each other, but I worry that a lot of the information here would be removed due to not being relevant to his BLP. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 21:37, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Trademark number is Reg. No. 4194545) Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 21:39, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(And then I go look and the trademark died on the 22nd Mar this year so....now I'm torn more!) Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 21:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

but I worry that a lot of the information here would be removed due to not being relevant to his BLP yes that's a possibility. I've not had time yet to evaluate if this article should stay so am in no haste to merge/delete, but it was a constatation (I placed the comment as I discovered the old AfD and added the old-afd tag above). I recently tried to look for sources about the BLP and even there wondered if notability was lasting, so I started looking if there was anything more about CSETI and Disclosure Project... —Paleo Neonate – 01:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Panyd: I don't see an obvious contradiction between not being active and a trademark being registered. In fact, Greer might have registered the trademark just because it was inactive and he feared someone would take the name. Then he let it lapse, so maybe he'd given up on it? I don't know but the trademark isn't evidence of inactivity or a reason not to redirect/merge. Doug Weller talk 14:18, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion started at Greer's article

Seems to be the appropriate thing to do. Discussion takes place there per procedure. 14:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs)