Talk:Brothers of Italy/Archives/2024/May
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Add factions
Beyond the outcomes of the discussion of the pros and cons of the label "neo-fascism," I would suggest adding "internal factions." 93.38.68.62 (talk) 12:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- So separating the ideology and factions section in two? I think it’d be better to keep that section but have two subheadings for ideology and then internal factions. Lmk what you think Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also there's no mention of neo-fsacism in the faction section but there are RS saying there are. [1] [2] Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The party has a neo-fascist minority faction (no secret), liberal-conservative and social-conservative wings. For the most part, the rest of the members can be identified with national conservatism.
- Ex:
- National conservatism (majority)
- Internal factions:
- Ideology 1
- Ideology 2
- etc. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 12:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- So are you talking about expanding the faction section to discuss the internal battle between mainstream conservatives and fascist sympathisers? I think this would add a lot to the article Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Providing it focussed on the factions or internal organisations and not just events/controversies Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The ideology section certainly needs to talk about recent changes in policy whilst they've been in government, and the shift to the centre Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- "So are you talking about expanding the faction section to discuss the internal battle between mainstream conservatives and fascist sympathisers?"
- Yes.
- "The ideology section certainly needs to talk about recent changes in policy whilst they've been in government, and the shift to the centre"
- The issue of the fascists in Brothers of Italy is an analogue to the (libertarian) socialists in the American Libertarian Party: both have no real influence in these parties. Neo-fascists do not really affect foreign policy choices (e.g., with their anti-NATO and anti-U.S. positions) or in economic matters. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 12:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Historically they have had control over the party but seem to have been side lined in recent years. Maybe reverting the edit I made on splitting that section, and instead splitting it into history and then current ideology and policy. In the history section you talk about how the party has shifted, particularly since 2022 Alexanderkowal (talk) 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for responses from other users as well, I'm new in this article. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- agreed, I'll revert, if no-one responds then feel free to push forward with this and maybe structure it differently than I said, I'm all for it Alexanderkowal (talk) 13:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it'd add a lot to the article, the ideology section lacks depth Alexanderkowal (talk) 13:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for responses from other users as well, I'm new in this article. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Historically they have had control over the party but seem to have been side lined in recent years. Maybe reverting the edit I made on splitting that section, and instead splitting it into history and then current ideology and policy. In the history section you talk about how the party has shifted, particularly since 2022 Alexanderkowal (talk) 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- So are you talking about expanding the faction section to discuss the internal battle between mainstream conservatives and fascist sympathisers? I think this would add a lot to the article Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I quite agree with having a separate section on factions and, generally speaking, with the IP user (see here). To the IP user: why don't you start your own account in Wikipedia? Your contributions to debate and hopefully to articles, with quality, sourced and consensual content, would be quite useful. --Checco (talk) 13:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)