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No criticism? No controversy?

It is simply not believable that among all the well-elaborated revulsion of BH and KJA's Dune-brand collaborations from committed and articulate fans that NONE of that would have filtered into their Wikipedia entries. This lacuna is another clear indicator of interested parties manipulating and sanitizing Wikipedia. (It's too bad, but Jimmy Wales' grand project has become a morass of perception management.) I can think off-hand of multiple sources that speak to the low regard in which these works are held; how could no-one more motivated and interested before me have failed to do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.82.230 (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. This question has been asked since 1999, but unfortunately we can't use fan criticism posted in forums, and in my research I never came across reviews from reliable sources that criticized the books enough to be notable in a Wikipedia (but there aren't outrageously positive reviews either). There is no conspiracy here, but instead very few editors who seem interested in contributing to Dune articles these days. If you could provide the "multiple sources" you refer to I would be happy to implement them properly in related Dune articles.— TAnthony^Talk 18:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A number of fandom-associated Dune companion books were published with Frank Herbert's approval (or, apparently, his estate honoring his pre-publication approval) between 1978 and 1987. The most controversial was the Dune Encyclopedia in 1984, which was a collection of unsigned essays edited by university professor Willis McNelly that contradicted elements of Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune. The Dune Encyclopedia article discusses the controversy and references Usenet posts written by McNelly.

Sometime after Frank Herbert's death, the estate became more assertive about refusing to approve fan companion books and asserting a specific canon. Usually, fan controversy surrounding a single estate or author isn't notable enough to include on Wikipedia. There are more general articles about fan works, canonicity, and fandoms.

The exception to notability would be if a reliable source discusses a fandom controversy in detail.

The individual articles for each Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson Dune book have links to positive, mixed, and negative reviews. See, for example, the Reception section of Dune: House Atreides. If you have links to reviews of other books from a reliable source (not Reddit or a fan forum site), you can add them to a book's article. LazyWombat987 (talk) 19:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dune

Dear Brian. Your father died before Dune was written. I wrote Dune. How about you call me and stop hiding. Yours truly. David James Stevenson. Time to pay the piper. 174.251.67.167 (talk) 18:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. Dune published 1965; Frank Herbert died 1986. I've added some procedural feedback to your talk page, 174.251.67.167. Klbrain (talk) 11:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children

In light of the fact that Kim Herbert is one of the executive producers of the Dune: Prophecy TV series, and one of the officers of Herbert Properties LLC, shouldn't we add a mention of her in this article? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 03:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]