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Q: Why is this presented as a conspiracy theory when the New York Post and others say it is true?

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Q: Didn't Joe Biden withhold US aid to get Ukrainian President Poroshenko to fire the Prosecutor General?

A: Viktor Shokin was widely regarded as corrupt. There were demands for his removal from within Ukraine as early as June 2015, before any international involvement. The US policy seeking his removal was bipartisan, and the US was joined by the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. Shokin was removed after an overwhelming vote of the Ukrainian Parliament in March 2016. Extensive investigations showed no evidence of undue influence.

Q: But wasn't Shokin investigating Burisma?

A: No, the entire problem was that he was not investigating Burisma, or multiple other companies. The investigation of Burisma was on hold, and there is evidence that Shokin was pursuing investigations only when the companies refused to pay bribes.

Q: What about Hunter Biden's laptop?

A: The authenticity of the laptop has not been verified. The provenance of the laptop, its contents, and the circumstances of how the laptop came to public scrutiny is questionable. Repair shop owner Mac Isaac, a Trump supporter who passed the laptop to Giuliani and the FBI, was not able to identify Hunter Biden as the person who gave him the laptop. Mac Isaac’s accounts concerning the laptop have been inconsistent and sometimes contradictory. Hunter Biden is unsure whether the laptop is his, but said there could have been a laptop stolen from him, or that it could be that a laptop of his was hacked. No information purported to come from the laptop has implicated Joe Biden in any misconduct. The FBI acquired the devices via a grand jury subpoena in December of 2019, though it was unclear if the seizure related to an investigation of Hunter Biden. The law enforcement assumption is that the laptop is Biden's.

Q: Wasn't Hunter Biden unqualified for the Burisma job?

A: Hunter Biden had experience as a corporate lawyer, as executive vice president of a bank, and in government. He was hired to advise on corporate governance, although he did not have experience with Ukrainian regulatory affairs. It is not a stretch to assume he was hired in part due to his name, but this does not mean nepotism was involved – he was not hired by a family member.

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A: This is well known and openly acknowledged - Joe Biden even discussed it in the first Presidential debate.

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On 14 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Joe Biden–Viktor Shokin–Burisma conspiracy theory. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Clear bias in language

Several portions of this article have very clear bias in word usage, it’s clear this is not neutral and clearly propaganda.

example: John Solomon portion is only consists of cheap attacks that fit the narrative to dismiss his work. Why did the people working in this page fail to include his work that provides evidence that Ukraine indeed was facing extortion from Biden, in relation to his son, and falsely attributed this to Shokin being corrupt. Actual documents and fact prove Solomon’s reporting accurate I will be adding this to the article if no credible objections

source: https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/eu-memo-directly-undercuts-joe-bidens-narrative-about HammerofFacts (talk) 15:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well there's your problem: you believe John Solomon. He lied to all of us, but you still believe him.[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 15:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reality has a well-known liberal bias. Guy (help! - typo?) 18:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting an accusation of bias with an admission of it - even if flippant - is not appropriate. MWFwiki (talk) 20:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline

“Committee’s subpoenas to date reveal that the Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from foreign entities.”

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.183.106 (talk) 20:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11 year pardon

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99x07ny8lro

I think it's worth highlighting that the pardon provided was for 11 years when it's covered by mainstream sources as well as a point of debate. 87.212.120.73 (talk) 16:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]