Talk:Betty Broderick
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Betty Broderick article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||
|
This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened:
|
It is requested that an image or photograph of Betty Broderick be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible. The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites. |
This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors |
Kim's death in the Marriage Breakdown section
[edit]The first line in this section states that Kim (their daughter) died prior to their separation, divorce or the murder (presumambly before 1984). However, Kim testified at the trial in 1991. Here the link <https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-10-22-me-233-story.html>. My sugesion is that intro in the first line of this section should be removed. Coviekid14 (talk) 17:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)coviekid14
Nursing?
[edit]I may be wrong, but I don't believe that Betty Broderick earned a nursing degree at her Catholic college. I believe that she studied either Early Childhood Education or Child Psychology and that she taught for a bit after completing her degree. I admit that I'm reaching back to my reading of Bella Stumbo's "Until the Twelfth of Never," but I feel quite certain that Broderick never earned nursing qualifications and that she was never an RN or an LPN.68.72.109.199 (talk) 23:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree..Betty was a teacher not a nurse... this info is stated in the book "until the twelvth of never" by Bella Stumbo....I have the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justnana (talk • contribs) 00:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I thought that by now, someone would have removed the references to "nursing," but since no one else had done it, I have. I think Broderick held more than one type of job after her marriage, while her husband was completing medical school and then law school. Teaching, perhaps, and then restaurant hostessing for a bit? I don't own a copy of Stumbo's book. Someone who does needs to add this information.Lolliapaulina51 (talk) 22:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Sections on the Betty Broderick Page which I propose to be deleted
[edit]I suggest that the sections on Psychology and Criminal History be entirely deleted. The section on Criminal History makes reference to an undiagnosed personality disorder (or disputed,) and the list of court cases could just as easily be attributed to Dan Broderick; in any contentious divorce, even those that don't end up in murder, the court case history is usually quite long. If these are to stay in, there should be any resolution provided as well, but I propose that it be deleted entirely.
As for the Psychology section, each "diagnosis" is countered by the opposite side of the courtroom, and the decision rendered was based on the facts of the case, not on speculation as to the whys and wherefores. The court did not present a finding of X or Y mental illness or personality disorder. Moreover, especially under current HIPPA regulations, it is a violation of privacy to present diagnoses.
Wiki is about neutral fact; the continued presence of these two sections is clearly non-neutral. The article as written is biased, and Wiki is not the proper place for that. Perhaps the message board of one of the television shows that portray this would be the best place to discuss those two sections, but Wiki is not. PR (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Marriage breakdown
[edit]In this section she apparently owes him three quarters of a million dollars in Epsteins and cash. What's an Epstein? Typo? --71.110.71.46 (talk) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
http://www.thurmanarnold.com/Blog2/2010/May/What-are-EPSTEIN-REIMBURSEMENTS-.aspx
Mowster (talk) 02:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Release date - source?
[edit]What is the source for writing "Broderick is due to be released in 2021" in the Trials section? As I understand it, unless the governor commutes her sentence, or the parole board grants her release, Broderick is never going to leave prison alive.
Harper41 (talk) 11:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
- Why do you say that "Broderick is never going to leave prison alive"? She received "only" a 32-year prison sentence. She did not receive a life sentence or a life-without-parole sentence. The year 1989 (when she went to prison) plus 32 years = 2021. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Incorrect. She did not receive a sentence of 32 years. She received a sentence of 32 years to life in prison. That is a life sentence. She does not have a set release date, and there is no guarantee she will ever leave prison alive. Harper41 (talk) 18:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
inconsistency?
[edit]I find:
>Her account of the murders at her second trial was that she was startled by Linda's screaming, "Call the police!" and immediately fired the gun.
The article has already said that Linda was hit by 2 bullets and was killed instantly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Betty Broderick. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=372269&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=611393&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetailr?casenum=CR112048&casesite=SD&applcode=R - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=625729&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=630348&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=630353&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=642748&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/casedetail?casenum=656397&casesite=SD&applcode=C - Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060830224111/http://www.crimelibrary.com:80/notorious_murders/family/broderick/1.html to http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/broderick/1.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110322212943/http://articles.cnn.com:80/2010-01-21/justice/california.betty.broderick.parole_1_linda-kolkena-broderick-elisabeth-betty-broderick-parole-board?_s=PM:CRIME to http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-21/justice/california.betty.broderick.parole_1_linda-kolkena-broderick-elisabeth-betty-broderick-parole-board?_s=PM:CRIME
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:06, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Facebook links for adult children
[edit]Why are two of Broderick's adult children's Facebook pages linked on this article? DeSales (talk) 09:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- If this was the case, it no longer is. There are no Facebook links in the article. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Mischief in French
[edit]In the section on "Marriage Breakdown," it says the following:
- During this period Dan was referring to himself as "The Count du Money”
Immediately after that, in italics it says:
- mais il était appelé, “Le Comte de Merde” pars les autres
This translates as "but he was called, “The Count of Shit” by others." I assume this should be deleted.
2601:14A:503:64C0:79F6:DB8F:FE9C:F72B (talk) 16:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC) (formerly known as ileanadu)
Confusion concerning Betty Broderick's place of birth and high school of graduation
[edit]Several Internet sources (such as IMDB) give Eastchester, New York as Broderick's place of birth. Her Wikipedia article gives Brooklyn as her place of birth. I don't know how "Brooklyn" got into the equation, but this information is unsourced and might be incorrect.
Also, Broderick's Wikipedia article shows Maria Regina High School as the high school that she graduated from. This information is unsourced and might also be incorrect. Click on the link for Eastchester High School, and you will see that Broderick is mentioned as a member of the Class of 1965. Broderick could not have graduated from both Eastchester High School AND Maria Regina High School. One of those two articles contains false information. Unsourced information can be true or false, and sourced information can also be true or false. Consider the source!Randy49 (talk) 16:52, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- What do the reliable sources say on the matter? Newspapers, most books and magazines? User-generated sources (like IMDb and Wikipedia) aren't considered reliable because a person could change that information to literally anything and then attempt to justify making the same changes on any WP article. It's plausible to me that a person could be a member of the Class of 1965 at two schools (by starting at one school and finishing at another), but obviously we want to get to the bottom of those details by looking at the reliable sources. Larry Hockett (Talk) 18:22, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
It is indeed possible that Broderick could have started out at Eastchester High School and then transferred to Maria Regina High School, but she could NOT have been in the Class of 1965 at both schools. One way to solve the issue would be to look at the 1965 yearbooks at both schools. Randy49 (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- To me, it's an obvious issue of how a person would define "Class of 1965". At my school, we were considered to be members of my graduating class year from the moment we were freshmen. We probably just need to see what the reliable sources say. Primary sources like yearbooks aren't prohibited in all situations, but they aren't great. Larry Hockett (Talk) 18:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
A person would be classified as a member of the Class of 1965 if he or she actually graduated from that particular school in the 1965 calendar year. Within the span of four years, many students will drop out, flunk out, get kicked out, or transfer to another school. Those people are NOT in the Class of 1965. Broderick graduated from either Eastchester High School or Maria Regina High School. I went over to classmates.com and perused the yearbooks at both schools. Unfortunately, the 1965 yearbooks are not online at that website. I was thinking of telephoning the school libraries for assistance, but I backed out of the matter for a number of reasons. Randy49 (talk) 19:06, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Source for your definition of class? Good thinking on not using yearbooks or school staff members. Larry Hockett (Talk) 19:25, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Betty’s inconsistent stories / lies
[edit]Betty told numerous stories about how she got the keys to Dans house - she stole them from Kim Broderick. But she claimed she found them - that Kim gave them to her - that they were in a box.
Betty also has told five or more different versions of the murders. 2600:4040:5FD2:E400:5535:C4D:BD3A:2E1E (talk) 06:15, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Meredith Baxter’s portrayal of Betty
[edit]In her autobiography “Untied” Meredith Baxter said that Betty lied to and manipulated the entire world. 2600:4040:5FD2:E400:5535:C4D:BD3A:2E1E (talk) 06:16, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Betty Broderick Net Worth: Propose delete section
[edit]This section reads very gossipy, and the text seems to be lifted from the only source cited, which is an unreliable source (gossip website/content farm). There's no point to this section unless the claims can be verified and re-written to befit Wikipedia rather than a gossip rag. 108.41.0.185 (talk) 03:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
In popular culture
[edit]The last paragraph of the "In popular culture" section could be more neutral in tone – "if you care to watch" and "you will see how dishonest" come off as passive-aggressive and biased 174.27.24.154 (talk) 23:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Biography articles of living people
- C-Class biography articles
- Wikipedia requested photographs of people
- WikiProject Biography articles
- C-Class Crime-related articles
- Low-importance Crime-related articles
- WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography articles
- C-Class New York (state) articles
- Unknown-importance New York (state) articles
- C-Class Hudson Valley articles
- Low-importance Hudson Valley articles
- WikiProject Hudson Valley articles
- C-Class San Diego articles
- Low-importance San Diego articles
- WikiProject San Diego articles
- C-Class WikiProject Women articles
- All WikiProject Women-related pages
- WikiProject Women articles
- Pages in the Wikipedia Top 25 Report
- Wikipedia requested images